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Jared Loughner walks into the frame clutching his gun close to his right side. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is standing by a wall, ready to greet visitors at her first "Congress on Your Corner" event of the year. The video shows, methodically, Loughner approach Giffords, raise the pistol -- a Glock with a once-illegal high capacity magazine -- and shoot the Congresswoman above the eyebrow from a distance of two to three feet. Then Loughner turns the gun on the small crowd of people near Giffords.
Disturbing new details of the Tuscon shootings emerged late Tuesday as investigators publicly described the surveillance camera footage that captured the morning's tragic events. Richard Kastigar, the investigative and operational bureau chief of the Pima County Sheriff's Department, spoke to the press about the footage.
One of the more visceral details of the account involves the late Judge John M. Roll who died while apparently saving the life of Ronald Barber, a Giffords staffer. After Loughner shot Barber, Judge Roll grabs the injured man and attempts to guide him to safety while shielding Barber with his own body.
In the New York Times' report, Mr. Kastigar desribes the event:
[The judge was] intentionally trying to help Mr. Barber. It’s very clear to me the judge was thinking of his fellow human more than himself… He pushes Mr. Barber with his right hand and guides him with his left hand. The judge was on top of him and is covering up Mr. Barber, literally lying on top of him, and his back was exposed.
The Los Angeles Times, reports that the footage leaves little doubt about what transpired that day.
It's so clear, you can even tell the sequence of who got shot when and where. And it's not the grainy kind of typical fast-food or mini-mart robbery tape. It is so clear it leaves no issue about who was doing the shooting.
More details will emerge in the coming days as investigators pore over the nearly two dozen videos from the Safeway surveillance cameras. (The Washington Post has already constructed an interactive graphic showing the moment-to-moment details.)
In the meantime, it's yet to be determined whether the footage will be shown to the jury during Loughner's trial. Even told through several sources, the details are troubling and difficult to process.
"A/B (Susan Hileman): No, that's why we're talking now. Do you remember the little girl who was with us at Thanksgiving? (I talked through the pause, since of course she didn't remember Christina.... "do you remember" is a trope I can't get past) Well, 2 weeks ago I took her to Safeway to meet our Congresswoman who was having a meet-and-greet. We were waiting in line and some fool decided to settle his grievances with her by spraying gunfire and I got shot in the ass.
G'ma: (Laughs. A lot.) I'm sorry, sweetheart. I don't mean to laugh. But that's a funny place to get shot."
Originally posted by Doomzilla
There is not one witness or character witness in this JL case I don't think is an actor .
Its funny how many people thought jared was capable of this . The typical crazy 22 yo mass murderer .
I'm afraid at this point , theres as many holes in this event as 9/11 .
I wait for march 9 th with interest
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Thousands of such children were 'drafted' into the program - kidnapped - and sent to to remote hospital/academy locations for mind control programming. There were over 30 of these facilities throughout Europe, which processed as many as 30,000 new births.
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I was absolutely terrified of the Aunties a lot of the time when we were young and so were the others. I remember one morning we were downstairs on the concrete doing exercises supervised by Aunty Helen, when Trish called down saying that she wanted to see David K. She probably wanted to give him a belting because he'd wet his bed which he did every night. But this morning David was so terrified when he heard her calling his name that he simply stood, rooted to the spot, and just lost control of his bowels. We all watched in horrified fascination and anticipation of what terrible trouble he would be in now, as pieces of # dropped out of his pants and onto the concrete. Trish, very annoyed that he hadn't jumped to it, and interpreting his action as a new defiance, dragged him upstairs and gave him an even bigger belting than usual.
We were punished for not closing the lounge room door, for dirtying our smocks, for not practising our piano pieces in the right order, for untidy hand-writing, for not putting our shoes on fast enough, making a mess, talking when we were not supposed to, using forbidden words ('hate' was a word that was forbidden). It didn't have to be much: make your bed wrongly, look at one of the Aunties with what was called 'dumb insolence' (quite what that was I never found out although I always wanted to ask- but that would have been insolent in itself), speak during hatha or lights out, or a million other little things that infringed either the written laws, or an unwritten expectation of the place that children had in the scheme of things.
Megan Dawes once missed meals for a day because she was caught wearing odd socks. We weren't even allowed to go to the toilet until the designated recess time and so of course kids would wet their pants and be belted for that. One time we had a baby called Madeleine staying with us for a few weeks. She was locked in a cot all day with the sides up. She had not reached the walking stage and so couldn't get out of the cot and get to the toilet. However that didn't stop the Aunties. She still got belted when she wet or dirtied her nappy. I remember Trish ordering me to bathe Madeleine in a basin after she had soiled herself. The water had to be icy cold as a punishment and Trish smacked her after I bathed her. She was screaming and I had difficulty holding her still in the cold water.
We were often punished for rocking. We used to rock ourselves to sleep at night because we felt so miserable, sitting up on our haunches and swaying to and fro, or just rocking our head from side to side.. Often after a belting we would call out 'Mummy, Daddy' as we rocked to and fro, calling out to a Mummy and Daddy who were not there and did not care. When we were younger a few of us, myself included used to headbang as we rocked: it was a way of seeking comfort. If we were caught, we were punished with another belting, or being put outside on the concrete for the remainder of the night, or getting cold water tipped over us. Rocking was considered to be bad because , even when we were tiny children it was interpreted as a form of sexual gratification.
If we transgressed by word thought or deed any one of the thousands of petty little rules that governed our lives we were in trouble. There were so many rules that it was impossible to keep them all and also so many unfair reasons for punishment. Even if we tried our best we still couldn't keep out of trouble
Originally posted by pianopraze
DZ:
A MK-victim is groomed from birth, often the trauma starting before birth in-eutero. They are loved bombed until 18 months then tortured horrendously and all pleasure/pain etc is reversed.
Didn't get the love bombing which must be a recent refinement? Torture did start at about that age though. It is par for the course and becomes almost routine, expected, horror surpassing horror as days and weeks pass, you try to find ways to end your life by stopping breathing or whatever might work. Pleasure and pain are reversed but in the context of a broader value reversal where good becomes evil and evil becomes good. This way they can keep your ethical process intact, simply inverting its activators.
They live in a nightmare constantly-shifting fantasy world where nothing is consistent and taught to impose their will upon reality.
It is a living nightmare where inconsistency is the least of your worries. Yet it does prevent you from grasping onto anything. While it might be a sought effect, imposing one's will upon reality becomes a survival response when you are utterly helpless in a world of abuse.
This then progresses to training per aptitude of the individual including psychic and very esoteric techniques that have been know in these secret societies since ancient egypt and beyond. This is not new, just highly refined technology.
Things keep getting worse until you 'lose your mind' or shut down. Seeing other kids die is the hardest part. At the risk of repeating myself, "it just ain't human".
By the time they are pre-teens they are killers of an order of magnitude beyond mosts imagination.
Killing starts with small cuddly animals and you then graduate to child sacrifice. This is part of the "traditional" dissociative process from ancient times, which survives today and is used to shock the one holding the instrument more than the others. They like to murder the most gentle and kind of the kids. Was I nasty enough to survive or simply better connected? This is where I turned on them permanently, even though they still had their hooks in me. My conclusion is that secret societies still use ritual sacrifice to reactivate this shock effect to put participants back into control mode. I find this easier to believe of as the ongoing practice of a predatory species rather than of a perpetually renewed small group of dominant people.
Death is a constant reality and thousands are eliminated brutally in the training. Such a simple mission as was carried out by Jared would be a mere walk in the park.
That's the very function of training. Making the real game play a walk in the park. Tough cookies for the others in the park?
I think if he was a MK-victim he was a one time use throw-away... or they used a real MK-victim to perform it and framed Jared as has been suggested here. That he was aware of his mind control before age 30 indicates he was either not a full MK-victim or a reject from the program for disposable use.
This is quite possible, that he had a conscience which bothered him and was thus a "reject for disposable use. I was myself attempted to be disposed of at a younger age than him, kidnapped and narrowly escaped murder but managed to escape: that training does give you abilities. The guys arrested made a deal for their release: they were allegedly "agents required for important national security operations". So they do dispose of renegades, either usefully or just to curb trouble.
GM:
I am assure your aware of this information from other posts but I will throw it out in response to your post.
Thousands upon thousands of children are funneled into the MK-ULTRA program through the CIA, cults, and kidnappings. One of the more recent sources I've come across is in connection with Julian Assange. He was part of the Hamilton-Byrne cult in Australia which funneled thousands of blue-eyed blond-hairied children around the world.
That is very interesting about Assange. But he just might be a renegade like me? Or a tool, time will tell.
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Thousands of such children were 'drafted' into the program - kidnapped - and sent to to remote hospital/academy locations for mind control programming. There were over 30 of these facilities throughout Europe, which processed as many as 30,000 new births.
Makow is quite a valid source, only it is important to remember when reading his website that the Zionists are not to be equated with the Jewish people. They are a stealth underground group which is united by a plan for global domination and the establishing of the new Zion. But they permeate many different communities of which Israel is only one. They are largely involved in the mind control programming and abuse.
This was an off-shoot of the German Lebensborn and used many of the techniques of MK-ULTRA. The children were brainwashed tortured and drugged until they willingly accepted new identities. They accepted Hamilton-Byrne as their mother and their true mothers were just "aunties"... here is an excerpt:
Sounds familiar. At age 11 I was "offered" for adoption by a family friend specialized in developing psychic abilities. I was able to opt out. There is such a sense of family with these people...
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I was absolutely terrified of the Aunties a lot of the time when we were young and so were the others. I remember one morning we were downstairs on the concrete doing exercises supervised by Aunty Helen, when Trish called down saying that she wanted to see David K. She probably wanted to give him a belting because he'd wet his bed which he did every night. But this morning David was so terrified when he heard her calling his name that he simply stood, rooted to the spot, and just lost control of his bowels. We all watched in horrified fascination and anticipation of what terrible trouble he would be in now, as pieces of # dropped out of his pants and onto the concrete. Trish, very annoyed that he hadn't jumped to it, and interpreting his action as a new defiance, dragged him upstairs and gave him an even bigger belting than usual.
We were punished for not closing the lounge room door, for dirtying our smocks, for not practising our piano pieces in the right order, for untidy hand-writing, for not putting our shoes on fast enough, making a mess, talking when we were not supposed to, using forbidden words ('hate' was a word that was forbidden). It didn't have to be much: make your bed wrongly, look at one of the Aunties with what was called 'dumb insolence' (quite what that was I never found out although I always wanted to ask- but that would have been insolent in itself), speak during hatha or lights out, or a million other little things that infringed either the written laws, or an unwritten expectation of the place that children had in the scheme of things.
Megan Dawes once missed meals for a day because she was caught wearing odd socks. We weren't even allowed to go to the toilet until the designated recess time and so of course kids would wet their pants and be belted for that. One time we had a baby called Madeleine staying with us for a few weeks. She was locked in a cot all day with the sides up. She had not reached the walking stage and so couldn't get out of the cot and get to the toilet. However that didn't stop the Aunties. She still got belted when she wet or dirtied her nappy. I remember Trish ordering me to bathe Madeleine in a basin after she had soiled herself. The water had to be icy cold as a punishment and Trish smacked her after I bathed her. She was screaming and I had difficulty holding her still in the cold water.
We were often punished for rocking. We used to rock ourselves to sleep at night because we felt so miserable, sitting up on our haunches and swaying to and fro, or just rocking our head from side to side.. Often after a belting we would call out 'Mummy, Daddy' as we rocked to and fro, calling out to a Mummy and Daddy who were not there and did not care. When we were younger a few of us, myself included used to headbang as we rocked: it was a way of seeking comfort. If we were caught, we were punished with another belting, or being put outside on the concrete for the remainder of the night, or getting cold water tipped over us. Rocking was considered to be bad because, even when we were tiny children it was interpreted as a form of sexual gratification.
If we transgressed by word thought or deed any one of the thousands of petty little rules that governed our lives we were in trouble. There were so many rules that it was impossible to keep them all and also so many unfair reasons for punishment. Even if we tried our best we still couldn't keep out of trouble
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I also remember 'rocking' being banned. Possibly because it is a natural way of coping with trauma by simulating the motion of a mother's womb? No comforting is tolerated.
This is just a new item i've found. The CIA has been using cults since the 50's to breed children for the program and has been repeatedly caught in child slave trafficking. The Conspiracy of Silence History Channel documentary talks about some of this.
That's a hard watch. But it is important to stick it out, if you don't yet know the dirty truth.
Originally posted by Getsmart
Pleasure and pain are reversed but in the context of a broader value reversal where good becomes evil and evil becomes good.
Things keep getting worse until you 'lose your mind' or shut down. Seeing other kids die is the hardest part.
Killing starts with small cuddly animals and you then graduate to child sacrifice. This is part of the "traditional" dissociative process from ancient times,
That's the very function of training. Making the real game play a walk in the park. Tough cookies for the others in the park?
That is very interesting about Assange. But he just might be a renegade like me? Or a tool, time will tell.
Sounds familiar. At age 11 I was "offered" for adoption by a family friend specialized in developing psychic abilities. I was able to opt out.
Thanks for the refresher, though these are not memories that need refreshing. Those who are the forgotten victims are the children sacrificed to cause traumatic dissociation in others. They are the saddest victims of the lot and it is in their memory that I combat the bastards who continue to perpetrate such crimes.
Originally posted by Doomzilla
Praze Getsmart and others .
www.abovetopsecret.com...
NEW Loughner mugshot ..
Lemme know what you think .
Originally posted by Getsmart
WHERE DID THE SHEETS COME FROM? they are at a safeway not a bed bath and beyond for sh*t's sake!
First paramedics on the scene and the bodies are already covered with sheets?
Originally posted by pianopraze
reply to post by Doomzilla
I think it's the same guy in both pictures.
The first released image is photoshoped. You need look no further than this image with the obviously painted in black dot with faux white dot eye shine.
I don't know if this is the "real Jared" but it is the same guy in both photos.
Originally posted by Doomzilla
Are you around Getsmart ? I havent seen you since before the 2nd mugshot was released .
I wanted to know your opinion
The problem with mugshots' usage as a lineup tool lies with the uniformity of mugshots taken from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Whereas similar looking suspects presented in an unbiased photographic manner leads to identifications that can influence judges and juries, carelessly taken mugshots, mugshots with different lighting, different colored-backgrounds, disparate poses or aspect ratios may lead to bias in identifying perpetrators of crime - oftentimes leading to prosecutors determining that this type of evidence would be impermissible or worse the successful suppression of this type of evidence in courts of law. Thus, to create photographic arrays that consist of similar photographs fall into the hands of individuals making subjective decisions.
The NIST has developed the Best Practice Recommendation for the Capture of Mugshots. These practices, developed over the course of several years, were introduced in 1997 to mandate uniformity and consistency in mugshot taking. To create and maintain uniformity, NIST suggests standardization of the following photograph specifications:
Types of Poses
Depth of Field
Centering
Lighting
Background
Exposure
Aspect Ratio
Minimum Number of Pixels
Color Space
Pixel Aspect Ratio
Compression Algorithm
File Format
Source: Mugshot Capturing - NIST Best Practices
The subject whose image is being captured shall be positioned in front of a background which is 18% gray with a plain smooth flat surface. A Kodak or other neutral gray card or densitometer shall be used to verify this 18% gray reflectance requirement.
Subject illumination shall be accomplished using a minimum of three (3) point balanced illumination. Appropriate diffusion techniques shall also be employed and lights positioned to minimize shadows, and to eliminate hot spots on the facial image. These hot spots usually appear on reflective areas such as cheeks
and foreheads. Proper lighting shall contribute to the uniformity of illumination of the background described in the exposure requirement.
Source: BEST PRACTICE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CAPTURE OF MUGSHOTS
Facial expression:
The expression should be neutral (non-smiling) with both eyes open normally (i.e. not wide-open), and mouth closed. Every effort should be made to have supplied images conform with this specification. A smile with closed jaw is not recommended.
Subject lighting:
Lighting shall be equally distributed on the face. There shall be no significant direction of
the light from the point of view of the photographer. The region of the face, from the crown to the base of the chin, and from ear-to-ear, shall be clearly visible and free of shadows. In particular, there shall be no dark shadows in
the eye-sockets due to the brow and the iris and pupil of the eyes shall be clearly visible.
Source: BEST PRACTICE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CAPTURE OF MUGSHOTS