what poor leadership looks like in real time

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Do you consider an 8 year old that walked up to you, pulled the pin on a hand grenade and handed the germade to you a combatant? That happened in Viet Nam.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: Sookiechacha

www.washingtoninstitute.org...

This analysis is solely intended to compare various Hamas fatality claims against each other and raise questions about the resultant discrepancies. It makes no claims about the true death toll in Gaza or the civilian-combatant ratio, nor is it meant to distract from the very real and widespread loss of life in Gaza and the severe humanitarian crisis that its population continues to suffer.

Do you agree?

If we take Bibi's claim, that 15K militants have been killed, women and children can be considered militants by Netanyahu's IDF, and the Palestinian's Health Minstry's 30K figure from February, we still get around 22.5K. Is that an acceptable number for you?

Geeez

The number of civilian to combatant deaths is the same if not lower of any war ever fought. Why the special faux outrage on this war?

This biggest takeaway from the study I got was that the death toll was being produced by journalists and media. It’s impossible to have a accurate tally. Do you understand that? If a journalist reports that hundreds of women and children died without doing any official count (which they haven’t been doing for awhile now) are you going to really believe those numbers are correct? The math has been debunked by many, not just one source. Believe what you want but I’d think you’d be tired of being wrong all the time.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

So what power do colleges in the U.S. have to stop The Israeli Government???

They have exactly the same power that they had back in 1970 when 4 students were killed by the National Guard for protesting the Vietnam War, on the campus of Kent State. I seem to recall a number of college campus protests during the Vietnam War.

So they have no power over The Israeli Government. THAT is today's issue.

WHY aren't these brave protesters and paid shill provocateurs surrounding The Israeli Embassies????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

So what power do colleges in the U.S. have to stop The Israeli Government???

They have exactly the same power that they had back in 1970 when 4 students were killed by the National Guard for protesting the Vietnam War, on the campus of Kent State. I seem to recall a number of college campus protests during the Vietnam War.

Another totally diverted set of comments that are irrelevant to Israeli actions in The Middle East 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: Sookiechacha

www.washingtoninstitute.org...

This analysis is solely intended to compare various Hamas fatality claims against each other and raise questions about the resultant discrepancies. It makes no claims about the true death toll in Gaza or the civilian-combatant ratio, nor is it meant to distract from the very real and widespread loss of life in Gaza and the severe humanitarian crisis that its population continues to suffer.

Do you agree?

If we take Bibi's claim, that 15K militants have been killed, women and children can be considered militants by Netanyahu's IDF, and the Palestinian's Health Minstry's 30K figure from February, we still get around 22.5K. Is that an acceptable number for you?

Geeez

All the deaths are needless and I hate hearing about any innocent civilians being killed but…. they elected hamas and they still support hamas. If your country elects a known terrorist group to represent and govern them, it makes them complicit, not innocent. Maybe the ones that don’t agree with Hamas should’ve left the country, oh wait, they can’t because no other Muslim country wants them as refugees. Do you have any clue as to why sook? Crack a history book if you don’t.

If you brutally murder 1.3k innocent people for no reason expect retribution, such is life FAFO

a reply to: Sookiechacha

So you seem to be in favor of the violence at Columbia. 😀

And most likely in favor of targeting innocent Jewish Students and Faculty at these colleges.

You are so brave and such a hero 😊

a reply to: xuenchen

Another totally diverted set of comments that are irrelevant to Israeli actions in The Middle East

Oh honey, that's not the topic of the thread. This thread is about the misguided protestors and their lack of good leadership. I agree that the embassies would be a more appropriate place to protest.

But my point is that these protestors are doing the same stuff that my generation did in the 1970. Did the protests help end the war? Probably not. But that won't stop people from protesting next time.

So you seem to be in favor of the violence at Columbia.

Why? Because I compared them to the Kent State protests?

I'm in favor of the constitutional right to protest, whether it's a Jan 6th protest, a war protest or a police brutality protest. I'm not in favor of violence at any instance.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

Declaring that all the innocent civilians killed deserved to be killed because it's their fault that a bunch of Israelis were killed in October, is also an invalid argument.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Do you consider an 8 year old that walked up to you, pulled the pin on a hand grenade and handed the germade to you a combatant? That happened in Viet Nam.

I sure did. And it happens in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Guatemala, Honduras, even in our own inner-city streets.

It still doesn't justify the arbitrary killing of 8 year olds, senior citizens, women, children and civilians in general.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: KrustyKrab

Declaring that all the innocent civilians killed deserved to be killed because it's their fault that a bunch of Israelis were killed in October, is also an invalid argument.

No it’s not, you’re just not getting it. They elected them to govern, they knew exactly who they were, they’re complicit. I can’t spell it out much clearer for you.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Why are you not speaking out against hamas for their war crimes, you’re crickets about that.
Hamas used hospitals and civilian dwellings to harbor combatants = war crime
Hamas using civilians as human shields = war crime
Hamas refusing to allow civilians to flee a war zone = war crime
Hamas stealing aid and medicine meant for civilians =war crime
Hamas cowardly murdering 1.3k innocent people = war crime

Why do you not condemn these actions instead of trying to flip them around and blaming Israel?
That’s typical of what the left and people like you do, always someone else to blame besides the culprit.
It’s kind of like you’re starved for attention and want to make this all about you by constantly posting misinformation you know people will call you out on. It showcases a lack of integrity and credibility.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

They elected them to govern, they knew exactly who they were, they’re complicit.

Their last election was 2006, 13 years ago.

Again, blaming 2 million Gazan citizens, and declaring them deserving of genocide is an invalid argument..

Why are you not speaking out against hamas for their war crimes

Why are you trying to dictate my speech and control the narrative, which isn't about now bad Hamas is. It's about feckless student protests on college campuses.

a reply to: network dude

Non-students are mixing in with the student protestors at several colleges and universities. Some are wanna-be terrorists.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Justify this: ☠️


Three Columbia University Janitors Claim Hitler Youth Held Them Hostage

Three janitors claim the pro-Hamas insurrectionists at Columbia University temporarily held them hostage during the takeover of a campus building, reports Fox News.

“They held me hostage,” one maintenance man told the Columbia Spectator, a student newspaper. Fox News adds that at around 12:30 a.m., the Jew-hating insurrectionists stormed Hamilton Hall. The mob then “shattered windows, barricaded doors using tables and chairs, and obscured the windows of the facility.”

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: network dude

Non-students are mixing in with the student protestors at several colleges and universities. Some are wanna-be terrorists.

Paid Agents Provocateurs and maybe some Fed COINTELPRO agitators as well. 😀

a reply to: Sookiechacha

FYI, many nations don't elect new leadership every x or xx years. The people of Palestine elected Hamas to form and control government there in 2006. The people of Palestine have been satisfied with the HAMAS-run government since then. And maybe even now.

a reply to: xuenchen

Custodians at every school should be armed and trained to use the firearm. They are uniquely qualified to stop school violence.

a reply to: WeMustCare

The people of Palestine elected Hamas to form and control government there in 2006.

No, they voted to form a government in 1994-96. 2006 was their LAST election, which was a parliamentary election.

It was in January 2006 that the Palestinian territories held what turned out to be their last parliamentary elections. Hamas won a bare plurality of votes (44 percent to the more moderate Fatah party’s 41 percent) but, given the electoral system, a strong majority of seats (74 to 45). Neither party was keen on sharing power. Fighting broke out between the two. When a unity government was finally formed in June 2007, Hamas broke the deal, started murdering Fatah members, and, in the end, took total control of the Gaza Strip. Those who weren’t killed fled to the West Bank, and the territories have remained split ever since.

slate.com...

The Palestinian people never voted for Hamas to ignore the laws and the elected government and the murder of the Fatah members. They never voted to cross the border and murder Israelis. And they never voted for war with Israel.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
They never voted to cross the border and murder Israelis. And they never voted for war with Israel.

... and yet they participated in it, supported it, applauded it, and call for more.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
They never voted to cross the border and murder Israelis. And they never voted for war with Israel.

... and yet they participated in it, supported it, applauded it, and call for more.

2.1 million Palestinians most certainly did not support it, applaud it, and call for more. But most certainly, 2.1 million citizens are paying for it with their humanity.