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posted on Jun, 19 2004 @ 11:04 PM
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Everyone assumes Atlantis if it even existed was destroyed by a volcano. Though this theory run contrary to the large amount of "flood" stories that are found all over the globe about the destruction of a great civilization, nearly all these stories hint at a celestial event and not just a volcanic one. Is it possible that a meteor impact in the Atlantic ocean could have triggerd volcanic explosions and earthquakes in the volitle Atlantic region off the coast of spain? Thus causing Atlantis to be sunk by the volcanic means that Plato gives account of, and also providing for the fundemental basis of a global celestial event that has been past down through hundreds of cultures on all continents of the globe.




posted on Jun, 20 2004 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by IndianaJoe
Everyone assumes Atlantis if it even existed was destroyed by a volcano.


I don't - I believe the writings of Rand Flem-Ath and Charles Hapgood, that Atlantis was destroyed by earth crust displacement. If you get a chance, read 'The Atlantis Blueprint' and 'When the Sky Fell' by Rand Flem-Ath. The evidence, especially about atlantis being in antartica and atlanteans mapping the globe is very strong in his books, if now overwhelming.

In the mean time, here's a link to his wesite: www.flem-ath.com...



posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 12:44 AM
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Those claims are very intersting. Also it would account for the massive flood amounts, and eventually triggering volcanoes and IndianaJoe spoke of. But one thing not everyone beleives Atlantas was sunk by volcanoes like narmus. I beleive more along the lines of him then just Atlantas going down from volcanoes and earthquakes. Though if the earthquakes had happened of shore that also might account for the flooding causing tsunamis flooding the island. Though the meteorite impact would account for most theories.



posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 10:55 AM
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Anyone know if a meteor impact could actualy cause a volcanic eruption? ATS has to have atleast one resident geologist.



posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 05:22 PM
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Well... Atlantis did sink into the sea in one day.. That would explain it... But Plato's writings does sound like it took some time, so im more into the earth crust displacement theory... Havent heard about it before actually, but im right into it now!

It all makes sense now....



posted on Jun, 21 2004 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by narmus
The evidence, especially about atlantis being in antartica and atlanteans mapping the globe is very strong in his books, if now overwhelming.


How many times do I have to threaten to spontaneously combust? God help me i'll do it one of these days! the geographical description of Atlantis' location is spot-on for the mid-atlantic ridge. I believe the amazing nature of the Piri Reis map might have drawn Hapgood off the mark.

Plato's account is of a continent with 3 islands projecting from it, one of them holding sway over Cadiz, Spain. The continent became an impassible barrier of mud to travel out of gibralter, and cut off access to another continent on the other side. No theory of crustal displacement allows for Antarctica to have ever met that description, and it is not necessary since the Mid Atlantic ridge is tehre, and has 3 projections which could ahve been islands if the sea level was right.

There is some evidence for human knowledge and perhaps life in antarctica. It seems a given to the open mind that Antarctica could have been an ice-free tropical continent before the crustal displacement. There is no evidence, and can be no compelling evidence, that Antarctica was the land of which Plato wrote, unless plato's description was no a single place, but an amalgam of several places, including Antarctica.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by IndianaJoe
Everyone assumes Atlantis if it even existed was destroyed by a volcano.

(sigh) No... there's no evidence it existed.

No, Plato says it was destroyed by water. You're confusing it with Herculaneum and Pompeii (which did exist)


Though this theory run contrary to the large amount of "flood" stories that are found all over the globe about the destruction of a great civilization, nearly all these stories hint at a celestial event and not just a volcanic one.

Actually, it's not a universal myth, and the flood stories generally don't talk about the destruction of a great civilization -- just of current civilization (as in the Bible. It talks about the flood wiping out everyone but not about wiping out advanced civilizations.)

None of the ones I'm familiar with talk about great floods of myth being caused by anything beyond rain or a god causing the waters to rise. Perhaps you could point to one that talks about something else causing it?


Is it possible that a meteor impact in the Atlantic ocean could have triggerd volcanic explosions and earthquakes in the volitle Atlantic region off the coast of spain?


No.

Do you know how they capture bullets to test for firing marks (to see if the bullet comes from the suspected "murder weapon")? They fire the gun into a tank of water. The bullet hits the water, velocity gets drastically reduced, and you get an undamaged bullet and it doesn't shoot a hole in the tank of water.

So... you get a big meteorite landing in the middle of the ocean. Water buffers it and slows it down (and actually, since it's coming in red-hot, it would shatter it into a lot of small pieces... and if you don't believe me, heat up some rocks and drop them into water (stand VERY far away when you do this!!))

Minimal effect.

Also, the volcanic area is Italy and the Middle East. Sorry -- Spain and the coastline of the western edge of Europe aren't volcanic for the most part.


Thus causing Atlantis to be sunk by the volcanic means that Plato gives account of, and also providing for the fundemental basis of a global celestial event that has been past down through hundreds of cultures on all continents of the globe.

No (volcanos don't sink islands, by the way, or Hawaii would be seriously gone from the face of the Earth.)
No, there's no global celestial event mentioned (we'd know about it already)
No, there's not hundreds of cultures reporting a huge meteor streaking across the skies (nobody would have seen it if it was over the middle Atlantic. The curve of the Earth would have been in the way.)



posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 03:50 AM
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Although I'm more open minded about Atlantis, most of what Byrd has to say on the matter is true. Meteor impacts don't sink continents, and neither will a volcano. I'm providing a link that refers to a suspected meteor impact 250 million years ago which MAY have been so large that it was what caused 90% of sea life and 70% of creatures on land to become extinct. It impacted in Antarctica, which did not sink. The link also mentions the yucatan impact that killed off the dinosaurs. A quick check of the map reveals that the yucatan peninsula did not sink, much less the whole continent.
www.iht.com...


I can think of two ways that a "continent" could sink in a relatively short period of time. Option 1: A sink-hole of absurd proportions somehow formed under it. My idea is something like a continent resting on a huge aquifer, which became highly pressurized and eventually ruptured, spewing water/steam as the continent caved in. I'm not aware of any evidence that this is possible, but it's good story telling for a cooperative audience. (isn't that half the fun of Atlantis?)
Option 2: the freezing of percipitation on the continents during the iceage eventually lowered the sea level to the point that oceanic ridges were exposed. This is how lemurs spread- there was no lemuria. Settlements were built on the ridges, and then as the glaciers receded, the settlements had to be abandoned. Platos account was 9000 years after the fact (probably more in fact) so you can't expect the story to be without exagerations. It didn't really end in just a day.
Although it's not what I believe personally, Option 2 is the most reasonable explanation of the story, as far as the mainstream of history is concerned.

My own impression is that it is certainly not impossible that there was higher technology than we might expect in ancient history. The age of homo sapiens, the questions raised by OOPARTs (out of place artifacts), and very pervasive (granted not universal) themes in ancient mythology continue to drive my curiousity. I have ventured to hypothosize (in certain instances guess would be the more appropriate word) as to what the fact of the matter is, but I haven't come up with any ideas worth pressing too heavily, since they all need more supporting evidence, and i lack the funding and expertise to gather that evidence. (My funding is less than 60,000 a year, before taxes, minus living and entertainment expenses, which comes out to about twenty bucks and some unused carwash tokens. My expertise is such that I spent the last 3 days doing repair work on my truck that should have taken 1 hour... I'm sure you care).



posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 07:29 AM
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According to a Travel Channel program two days ago, the most likely advanced civilization has been found in the Meditteranean, far from Greece. The city is being uncovered now and it was truly an amazing civilization, advanced for its time.

It was destroyed by the greatest volcanic explosion since civilization began and set off a tsunami and earthquake elsewhere.

onealclan0.tripod.com...



posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 03:45 PM
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We've already at least partially debunked that bible code page. I try very hard to be open minded, and so i say "partially", but in fact I see no serious grounds for further consideration of that web page, which you have linked us to at least 3 times this week.

As for the travel channel, I am interested. Does the Travel Channel keep any sort of transcripts or perhaps recordings online that I could access, or are they still airing reruns of that program? I'd love it if you could give me a lead to follow on anything that has truly been "discovered" (as opposed to hypothesized based on texts) pertaining to ancient civilizations of greater than expected technical knowledge.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 08:36 PM
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*EDIT: Post moved to it's own thread: Atlantis Possibly Liquified by Earthquake

[edit on 23-6-2004 by Earthscum]



posted on Jun, 27 2004 @ 11:22 PM
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Atlantis is believed to have "sunk" in 10,500 BC.. this corresponds quite nicely w/ the end of the last Ice Age (and a corresponding 300-foot rise in the ocean sea leve, due to melting glaciers). It's likely that Atlantis didn't so much "sink" as the ocean "rose" around it..



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 01:44 AM
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That's a very likely and very common theory, which seems to be partially corroborated by the Piri Reis Map. (although the Piri Reis map raises some big questions about the nature of the thaw... it shows a thawed antarctica, while sea levels are still low enough that an oceanic mountain off the South American coast is exposed.

It's all but impossible then that Atlantis sank in a day of course. There are some incredible ways it could have happened in a day, but I think we've got to assume that the much exagerated core of the Atlantis story is simply that at the end of the iceage, a lot of exposed land ceased to be exposed.



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 04:22 AM
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I'm amazed that people still argue that the Piri Re'is map shows an ice free Antarctica. Ice or no ice, there'd still be a Drakes Passage - which is entirely missing from the map. It may suggest that a landmass was believed/known to have existed there, but is most definitely not an accurate rendition of Antarctica with or without ice. Same applies to other early maps showing an Antarctic continent: they seem to represent guessitmates of what might be there, implying that Antarctica was known of, but look nothing like Antarctica now or in the past. If anything, in my opinion, the coastlines shown better match the extend of sea ice around Antarctica. Suggesting the region was mapped within historic times (but who and when remains debatable, though I do like Gavin Menzies theory about the Chinese - see www.1421.tv... )

As to how Atlantis 'sank' - well my theory is that it never existed, but that the story was primarily inspired by the Thera explosion, Catharginian stories of islands far out in the Atlantic, and the race memory of major post-glacial flooding that inspired so many legends all around the world, which Plato then merged into 'Atlantis'.



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 04:31 AM
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Well, if atlantis was in antarctica, the tilting of the earth would have literally allowed it to be covered with water, in the form of ice that is....



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Essan
As to how Atlantis 'sank' - well my theory is that it never existed, but that the story was primarily inspired by the Thera explosion, Catharginian stories of islands far out in the Atlantic, and the race memory of major post-glacial flooding that inspired so many legends all around the world, which Plato then merged into 'Atlantis'.


even if atlantis never existed, there is still evidence of an ancient civilisation from Flem-Ath's research, that predates anything we know of today. The fact that if you take a prime meridian through the pyramids of giza, almost every single ancient sacred or religious site around the world are on extremely precise co-ordinates around the world compared to Giza, as are the directions that connect these sites. To me, that is pretty good evidence of a civilisation that has mapped the globe and had a very 'well beyond their time' knowledge of both latitude and longitude to plot these sites. I forget which way around it is but either lattitude or longitude could not be accurately calculated until a few hundred years ago (may someone could remind me which one!). The Piri Reis map is always produced as evidence of this, and Charles Hapgood did some very in depth and conclusive research on it, but I agree that it does have it's flaws. Authenticity and dating is indeed one of them.


The theory of an 'Atlantis' is a two sided one really - some people believe in the island paradise idea that is consistent with many legends around the world (that had no communication with each other until recently) and Plato's story, all based on legend, and that of an Atlantean society, an advanced cilvilisation, whether they lived in an island paradise or not. All the evidence does suggest that it was a sea bearing race which traded throughout the globe (ancient chinese pottery has been found in chile that dates to a time way before either continent knew of the other). The mystery to me is where they were based. The antarctica theory, as convincing as it is (in my opinion, from the research I have done) is also a 'convenient' one, in that we cannot prove at this stage whether there are indeed ruins under the vast ice. But it also makes sense, seeing as this race left markers and clues all around the world, yet we cant find a central point from which they were based, which would suggest it is in a place we cannot get to - that place being Antarctiica.

This is a very interesting debate - lets keep this one going.



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 01:34 PM
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You have to read Plato's account very carefully... Atlantis the continent didn't sink. Atlantis the CAPITAL CITY, is what sunk. I'm of the opinion that Atlantis is staring us all in the face...currently called South America. The city that was Atlantis can be found in Bolivia, in a region known as the Alti Plano... I'd put up another link, but I've done it to death, so a simple archive search should help....



posted on Nov, 8 2008 @ 08:34 PM
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that makes sense plato said atlantis was sunk but not how it was while Arysio Nunes dos Santos says plato was correct but again not how it happen



posted on Oct, 29 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: Anonymous ATS I've been trying to make a new thread about this but the page is always blank. Atlantis did end by flood but only that they caused it (will explain) I've always seemed different than all the other kids in school and always alone did really have friends till high school (but very few).I love crystals and collect them my favorite thing to do but theres something more to them i haven't been revealed yet. And i always remembered things before this life. One day I researched and read article after article on the legends and areas where Atlantis could be and the connections between the rest of the world and Atlantis and on nigh it came to me in a very vivid dream. I am a male but in the dream I was Female like a princess quite young in Atlantis but red lights were flashing people were running hectic it was up to me to run the temple and set up the force fields to protect Atlantis, but someone from Lumeria (MU) planned the attack very similar to a nuke is what it felt. (post apocalyptic) The misuse of power and crystals the scientist used in lumeria brought them something very similar to a nuke, again (felt). So I ran towards the temple but someone from Mu chased me my plan was to hurl it back to MU, but this man, maybe the king of MU or something along that physically tried to fight me I fought back and tried to seal the doors of the temple before he entered. I sealed them but not all the way because Atlantis didn't have time I was in charge now.IN the middle of the temple was a table/board covered in crystals one of every shade and color all smooth and round I used my mind to move them into a rainbow (telepathically) as I levitated into this state but before I could seal the gates and the city the man from Mu knocked my head (punched) so hard I flew back didn't remember how to use my powers (mind) and had forgotten my past all I knew was Atlantis would now crumble he fought, I fought back stabbed and killed him but Atlantis was struck most of it destroyed the remaining parts were washed in the flood. As he died in my arms i cried and Atlantis swallowed everyone 1 whole no1 won the war/ And from that I learned Atlantis not only lost their city but their spirituality in the war and the powers of the mind and crystal were lost forever that's what im missing when i look into my crystals. So it was lost in a great war and flood (tsunami) After the nuke or bomb had been dropped that Mu created. And the world is repeating itself and it's mistakes we must change our future and lead with love. In Atlantis all we knew was love this war brought tragedy, hate, fear into our hearts we must learn to love and move on.



posted on Oct, 29 2014 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: Atlant

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