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Glacier scientist: I knew data hadn't been verified

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posted on Jan, 30 2010 @ 11:54 PM

The scientist behind the bogus claim in a Nobel Prize-winning UN report that Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2035 last night admitted it was included purely to put political pressure on world leaders.

Dr Murari Lal also said he was well aware the statement, in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), did not rest on peer-reviewed scientific research.

In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, Dr Lal, the co-ordinating lead author of the report’s chapter on Asia, said: ‘It related to several countries in this region and their water sources. We thought that if we can highlight it, it will impact policy-makers and politicians and encourage them to take some concrete action.
It had importance for the region, so we thought we should put it in.

Dr Lal’s admission will only add to the mounting furore over the melting glaciers assertion, which the IPCC was last week forced to withdraw because it has no scientific foundation.

According to the IPCC’s statement of principles, its role is ‘to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis, scientific, technical and socio-economic information – IPCC reports should be neutral with respect to policy’.

The claim that Himalayan glaciers are set to disappear by 2035 rests on two 1999 magazine interviews with glaciologist Syed Hasnain, which were then recycled without any further investigation in a 2005 report by the environmental campaign group WWF.

It was this report that Dr Lal and his team cited as their source.
The WWF article also contained a basic error in its arithmetic. A claim that one glacier was retreating at the alarming rate of 134 metres a year should in fact have said 23 metres – the authors had divided the total loss measured over 121 years by 21, not 121.

Last Friday, the WWF website posted a humiliating statement recognising the claim as ‘unsound’, and saying it ‘regrets any confusion caused’.
Dr Lal said: ‘We knew the WWF report with the 2035 date wasgrey literature” [material not published in a peer-reviewed journal]. But it was never picked up by any of the authors in our working group, nor by any of the more than 500 external reviewers, by the governments to which it was sent, or by the final IPCC review editors.’

It wasn't a mistake like the IPCC policy makers, and some others are claiming, including those people who still believe in AGW after we have found concrete and danming evidence that shows it is nothing more than a scam...

Dr Murari Lal has admitted that they included the unfounded claims to pressure nations, and politicians into accepting the Kyoto Protocol...

Of course NOW that we found out this "error" this scientist is trying to come clean before this was found out through an investigation....

Not only have the IPCC "policy makers" which includes scientists who back the AGW have used dubious tactics which include false reports, and rigged data, but we also know the main proponents of the AGW scam have been using similar tactics...

Are people still so blind that they will continue to believe the lie that AGW is?...

[edit on 30-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Jan, 31 2010 @ 12:03 AM
this is a joke ... this is scam all over the place

how can we believe in studies being paid to produce certain results

this is a joke, this is our world ... man, we are crap ... we dont deserve to be in this $%

posted on Jan, 31 2010 @ 12:07 AM
I posted this one several days ago...

UN Scientists Used Global Warming Hoax to "Pressure" World Leaders

Same story.

— Doc Velocity

posted on Jan, 31 2010 @ 12:14 AM
reply to post by Doc Velocity

Yep, you are right. i don't know what in the world is happening with ATS search engine. I copied and pasted the name of the article and your 's didn't appear.

If there is a mod around please delete this.

[edit on 31-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Jan, 31 2010 @ 02:41 AM
What I find scary is the fact that had their error not been pointed out to them they would have kept going with it, brainwashing even more people with their lies. It makes me want to


posted on Jan, 31 2010 @ 03:35 AM

Originally posted by Chuffer
What I find scary is the fact that had their error not been pointed out to them they would have kept going with it, brainwashing even more people with their lies. It makes me want to


Yep, you are right, and you can even see how many people even members of ATS are brainwashed to no end, and will continue to believe in AGW no matter what.... their "commitment" to a dying farce shows that AGW is nothing more than a religion to many people.

It is a shame really... But that's the way some people are...

posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 08:42 PM
BTW, and once again, where are the AGW religious fanatics when it comes to the fact that even their bosses and masters have admitted AGW is nothing but a lie and they had to use false information to frce nations to accept their agendas?....

posted on Feb, 7 2010 @ 11:50 AM
Not even one response from the AGW followers...

Of course they can't say anything about their so "perfect and flawless IPCC"... Not even when several scientists came out and told the world for years the IPCC has been politicized.... and now that the IPCC is in disgrace they want to ignore this...

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