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"We have lots and lots of work to do. But we didn’t dig the hole," said Cliff Brandt. "I’m 66 years old and I came back to work because if I don’t, I can’t pay for my car . . . Nobody should work and not get paid. I think they used to have a word for it. It’s called slavery."
If there is one thing that perplexes me most about Ukrainians, it is their willingness to work without pay. I am not talking about volunteerism. Getting Ukrainians to volunteer their time and effort for a good cause is a tough sell. I’m talking about working at a job 40 or more hours a week and not getting a salary. They earn a salary, but don’t get it. Few professions are immune: Teachers. Doctors. Police. Miners. Farmers. Soldiers. Factory workers. And it’s not just employees; add to the list those who are owed stipends, pensions or other government assistance, such as veterans, retirees, students, mothers on maternity leave, etc.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
For the most part, DMV workers are low skilled and get paid quite well compared to other workers with comparable skill sets. Having DMV workers work a few days without pay is like adjusting their wages back to market level.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
For the most part, DMV workers are low skilled and get paid quite well compared to other workers with comparable skill sets. Having DMV workers work a few days without pay is like adjusting their wages back to market level.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
I think they are unionized, but as the guy says, they don't really have a choice.
They either work for no pay or get canned.
This isn't a furlough, furloughs mean you just don't work period and don't get paid.
This is slavery.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by mnemeth1
The DMV workers are not slaves, though. They are free to quit. Of course most of them know that nobody will give them a good job, even in a good economy. The only reason why they are anchored to their jobs is that they are overpaid at the taxpayer's expense.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by mnemeth1
The DMV workers are not slaves, though. They are free to quit. Of course most of them know that nobody will give them a good job, even in a good economy. The only reason why they are anchored to their jobs is that they are overpaid at the taxpayer's expense.
Workers will now work every Friday, including Furlough Fridays, and accrue furlough time. Officials explained they'll still be docked three days a month, but they will take furlough days at a later date. www.news10.net...
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by mnemeth1
You are all about free markets and against socialism, right? Shouldn't the DMV be able to go out in the labor market and hire workers at market rate?
Well having the DMV workers work unpaid furlough days is the equivalent to having the DMV workers take a market rate for their labor. If these workers do not like the deal, there are plenty of workers out there who will gladly take it.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
Yeah the State is dictating that they will receive comped off time in the future.
However, that's a joke as the Ukraine points out for us.
Kalifornia's economy is finished.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
I see you don't believe in history as a basis for predicting future events.
What's taking place in CA right now is EXACTLY the same as what is taking place in the Ukraine right now.
For the exact same reasons.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
Buddy, there is no difference between how CA operates and how the Ukraine operates.
Ever read the communist manifesto?
It has been fully implemented in this country today.
Centralized bank? - check
State control of resources? - check
State control of healthcare, social services, and education? - check
In a free capitalist society, markets would set interest rates, money would be created by market functions, social services would be run by the private sector, and resources would be managed by property rights rather than bureaucrats.