Originally posted by OhZone
Not Authorized, why do you think that plastic had to be something that a previous civilization had to make?
One sinkhole will not destroy a city the size of Las Vegas, or New York, or any other modern day city. There's no footprint to speak of for any
cities that large and that advanced.
If we all left Earth today, there would be countless amounts of evidence we existed. Basic urban planning would be abundant, even after thousands of
years. Water Resivours, trash heaps, large scale development, etc, would all remain in a somewhat recognizable form long after we're gone. So would
the trash we leave behind.
Would items in my home degrade? Sure. But some would remain, namely plastics, aluminum, glass, etc.
So where is all the trash? Or should we believe they wiped themselves out, but had the wherewithal to clean up the entire planet after themselves?
That reasoning flies in the very face of objective thinking.
Have you seen the info on Baalbeck?
Yes, I have seen it. I see no mystery of the Triathlon, nor the 1000 ton hewn rock LEFT where it was quarried because they couldn't figure out how
to move it. We've been using leverage since we were able to make tools. So no, there's nothing mysterious about Baalbek to me.
Humans are ambitious creatures OhZone, and we push the limits even on modern day architecture. I feel that our stone cutting brothers were just as
ambitious. Just as we feel bigger, is better, they probably did too. They had the same thought process and reasoning as us. Hence the hewn stone
still sitting there is proof they bit off more than they could chew.
To sum it up, here's a quote: "Give me a place to stand and a lever long enough and I will move the world" Archimedes, 220BC.
Why would there have to be space debris?
Communication sats, gps sats, spy sats, etc. Already there's enough junk up there from the space race, in which scientists say will eventually form
a ring around earth. If a society in the past was as advanced as us, or more, where's the space debris?
There is that item called the Black Knight...
When was it discovered again? 1927, 1928 with LDE's, or 1957 or 1960? Contact made by Philip K. Dick? US Intel? Or during sputniks launch but at the
same time it shadowed sput it was in a polar orbit. (Uh, how? 2 places at once?)
Others say it was an object for 31 days only in the sky in the 60s, and tracked, and then left. In those reports, it's not even black -- but red. Or
the East to West naked eye stories later (Green this time), which makes absolutely no sense to those who understand orbital mechanics.
For a more reasonable approach, polar orbits were NOT impossible in 1960. In fact, the US launched TIROS-1 April 1, 1960 in which it was the first
polar-orbiting weather satellite -- note: not military. It's very reasonable to assume Top Secret polar orbits were attempted prior to that by the
US, USSR, China, France, or Brittan.
What most those who talk about the BK will not tell you is that Britain's program was also named Black Knight during this time frame. Britain's
program was very successful, a fact overshadowed by the US military dominance during the Cold War. If Britain had a sat or ICBM up there secretly, the
most appropriate term by the US WOULD have been "Black Knight".
Even the tech/weight story fails. Less than 1 month later, Sputnik 2 launched at ~1100lbs. 10 times the original weight of Sputnik, and thus greater
mass than "BK" which was several times above Sputnik. The USSR did have the tech to launch heavy sats, and they used it 29 days later.
That is why this story gains no credence with me. Add the hodgepodge of stories mixed together from 1927 to the 1960's with Keel's book showing
poorly time referenced research in order to further his agenda. Sprinkle some Cold War intrigue (Sputnik) and you got yourself a seller -- not an