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Originally posted by atsbeliever
The skeptics anti-belief system in this case. He was so quick to dismiss this without even bothering to read up on it, like a lot of people here from their natural bias to poo-poo anything that would lead to the possibility of other 'life' out there.
Originally posted by ravenshadow13
It's a naturally occurring compound. It doesn't have to mean anything,
Unless there are cows on Mars.
Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by atsbeliever
The skeptics anti-belief system in this case. He was so quick to dismiss this without even bothering to read up on it, like a lot of people here from their natural bias to poo-poo anything that would lead to the possibility of other 'life' out there.
I think the reason most are poo-pooing it is that this is old news. We've known about methane on mars for a while now. It could be circumstantial evidence of life, or it could be circumstantial evidence of latent geothermal activity. We'll see, but it's going to take further study to find out one way or the other definitively. I don't think it's a threat to any skeptic's belief system though. If microbial life is found on mars it doesn't mean we've been visited by aliens. You can still have the right answer (that alien life exists) for the wrong reasons.
[edit on 15-1-2009 by ngchunter]
Originally posted by atsbeliever
Theres absolutely no evidence for latent geological activity on Mars though.
And they do not find any other gases associated with Vulcanism also like Sulfur.
And it INCREASES the chances of us having been visited by Aliens if we can find any kind of alien lifeforms not from Earth, sorry but thats the truth.
For you skeptics all you have to cling to is that no other life has yet been found so you can cast a blanket of doubt on any sightings.
Proof of life elsewhere skyrockets the probability of such events happening.
Again thats a stark truth I suspect you will ignore and make up another excuse for.
Originally posted by atsbeliever
See my point above, and again..thinking in human terms is the wrong way to go about it. If you had the energy & capability to bend the fabric of space from point A to point B, your journey would be almost instantaneous.
Originally posted by atsbeliever
Your thinking very 'humanly' there which is not your fault, but one can't assume Aliens are at the same stage of development we are? Preposterous.
Add 500,000 years..or a few million..do you really think they would still be using solid rocket technology to get across the stars!??
have access to materials that we don't which would enable them to travel in ways we can't even theorize.
working theories for wormholes
& even ways to bend space/gravity to greatly shorten the distance & time required for travel.
It takes enormous energy's but a species so advanced from us would be able to harness such energy.
Look how far we have come in 100 years, how about 1000? Do you think we'll still be using an ox & cart to get around town if there's a faster way..
This is actually a GOOD thing even if its what turned out to be true, certain organisms thrive in that environment and no matter what the outcome is, it shows mars is warm inside, has some kind of liquid beneath the surface and conditions that biotic life could very easily live!!!
Even finding 1 microbe elsewhere would increase the odds by incalculable amounts.
If you had the energy
Originally posted by atsbeliever
Oh well then you proved me & the aliens wrong on every count. I LOSE. Your the superior intellect.
If you are really after the truth, you need to seriously spend time looking for it. By that I mean examine the Lunar Orbiter photos and also others from the Moon and from Mars see the 'truth' for yourself.
I'm after the truth, but you don't get there by making favorable assumptions...
The scientists found substantial plumes of methane in the northern hemisphere of Mars in 2003 and called it the first definitive detection of the gas on the Red Planet.
A VERY LARGE AMOUNT
Michael Mumma of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, said there were three regions slowly releasing "a very large amount" of methane. The regions all showed evidence of ancient ground ice or flowing water.
There was no sign of gases expected if methane was produced by volcanoes, particularly sulfur dioxide, Mumma said.
In mid-summer, methane is being released there at a rate similar to that of a massive hydrocarbon seep at Coal Oil Point in Santa Barbara, California, Mumma said.
Originally posted by qmantoo
If you are really after the truth, you need to seriously spend time looking for it. By that I mean examine the Lunar Orbiter photos and also others from the Moon and from Mars see the 'truth' for yourself.
Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
Originally posted by ravenshadow13
It's a naturally occurring compound. It doesn't have to mean anything,
Unless there are cows on Mars.
Ok I'll take your word for it over a massive team of NASA scientists and University professors - I think NOT!
Every single thing in existence fits the description of natural. The question is what process is responsible for it's creation and the experts have concluded MICROBES
NASA's Phoenix lander may have captured the first images of liquid water on Mars - droplets that apparently splashed onto the spacecraft's leg during landing, according to some members of the Phoenix team.