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posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 04:04 AM
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What does matter is how we conduct ourselves within that lifestyle. And that is one of integrity and honour. Where we are kind to people, are in service and do our upmost to be a source of love on a planet that is badly in need of it.


What ever your sexual preference is can you say that you live a life of integrity and honour, are you in service and are a source of love to the planet... Now this can be any human. Gay or Straight BI Transgender...ETC... Or can the majority of you say that you would rather keep fear to difference and hold onto stereotypes that just look at a persons sexual preference and judge them soley on that?

Scared that one day that the straights of the world will become the minority, (Oh i pray for the day when people are seen as humans and can love one another, bi striaght gay,for a much deeper reasons, and the people who have issues understand that LOVE is deeper than SEX, and LOVE is what the world needs within its people for all of us to lay down our weapons and stop fighting and living in fear, and start loving and having that courage to do so.)




posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 04:11 AM
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my, my,my,my,my.. if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black.. look at what the church did over prop 8.. and lets not forget that the straight maculine male thing has been shoved down everyones throat forever.. wouldnt that be why theres so much wife beating, child abuse, and dictatorships all over the world.. uh oh,, next thing gays are gonna get blamed for that too..



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 05:03 AM
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Humans have needed to procreate in order to survive - this has a lot to do with why 'gays' are despised so much.

For thousands of years, we've needed to breed more humans in order to defend our land.
Being 'gay' has meant that you're not making the species or country stronger - therefore liable to attack from superior forces.

War has been a common element of our existence. Wars whose tactics has been roundly based upon sheer numerical advantages; i.e., our army is bigger than yours, therefore we win.

A lot of people live in the past. Hence the hatred of gays.

The hatred of gays is a dying thing.



[edit on 26-12-2008 by Mr Gunter]



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Gunter
Humans have needed to procreate in order to survive - this has a lot to do with why 'gays' are despised so much.

For thousands of years, we've needed to breed more humans in order to defend our land.
Being 'gay' has meant that you're not making the species or country stronger - therefore liable to attack from superior forces.

War has been a common element of our existence. Wars whose tactics has been roundly based upon sheer numerical advantages; i.e., our army is bigger than yours, therefore we win.

A lot of people live in the past. Hence the hatred of gays.

The hatred of gays is a dying thing.


That could be why those in power were against homosexuality but in modern times most homophobic people are repressed homosexuals.

Experiments have found that the majority of people "against" gays are aroused by the same sex.

Their anger comes from self hate. It sucks to be hated by other people, but to hate yourself is hell.


[edit on 26-12-2008 by Jezus]



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Jezus
...but in modern times most homophobic people are repressed homosexuals.

Experiments have found that the majority of people "against" gays are aroused by the same sex.

Their anger comes from self hate. It sucks to be hated by other people, but to hate yourself is hell.


[edit on 26-12-2008 by Jezus]


So, people that are against car thieves want to steal a car? People who are against rapists actually want to rape? People who are against pedophiles want to molest children? Your supposition is a non-sequitur if there ever was one.

Most "normal" people are against gays because, in ALL societies, throughout ALL of history, gays are not content to just be left alone. They have, again historically, and in modern times, wanted people to say that being homosexual was ok, and to teach their kids that it was ok, and just another "choice" in life.

When the Boy Scouts wanted to exclude homosexuals from being Scout Masters, did the homosexuals say "Fine, we will start our own form of Boy Scouts, and show you that you are wrong"? No, they filed suit and all kinds of things to make it "accepted" amongst a group that had no intention or desire to accept it.

And you wonder why so many people come to resent gays? Homosexuals want to teach kids as young as kindergartners that it's "ok" to HAVE SEX with someone of the same gender. This, at a time when kids of those age think the opposite sex has "cooties".


And you wonder why so many people are against gays?

I'll tell you this: I could care less who my neighbor is boinking. But, if he tried to tell my child that a homosexual "relationship" was normal, then we'd most certainly have words. Leave me alone, and I leave you alone is my motto. This, most homosexuals do not do. They seem to demand that everyone accept their choice as "normal" and "right".

To the person I quoted: What does your pop-psychology say about a group of people that want everyone to think like them, with no dissent allowed?



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 12:46 PM
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well if gays werent forced into the closet, and the straight ideal not shoved down our throat.. it wouldnt be a problem.. now would it...



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by sir_chancealot
So, people that are against car thieves want to steal a car? People who are against rapists actually want to rape? People who are against pedophiles want to molest children?


That is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever read on this website...

Most homophobes are gay, sorry but it is true. They feel intense shame because of their own personal beliefs and they direct this hate onto other people.

Most Homophobes are Gay
www.ipce.info...

Top Five Republican Gay Sex Scandals
www.badmouth.net...

Gore Vidal discusses a 1996 study on homophobia, which revealed that homophobic males were aroused by gay porn, while non-homophobes were not.
findingthefilth.blogspot.com...

New research by U.S. psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings.
rosecottage.me.uk...

Southern Baptist leader arrested for soliciting male cop
www.washblade.com...



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by tac109
All I have to say is that im not against gays, I am however against a small minority of people trying to change the way the majority of people live. I would have no problems living next door to a gay person, I would have no problem enviting them over for a BBQ, but dont try and push your ways onto me or my family, dont try to get my kids to read a book where the prince falls in love with a prince. If your gay, thats cool, live your life how you want but dont try to change things in my life.
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how about the majority forcing a small group to live their way.. thats called the closet.. and no one is forcing it on u and u'r family.. but they do want people to understand.. this is a facet of real life.. though the straight thing is shoved down our throats, what every 5 mins.. but thats ok though..right?



posted on Dec, 26 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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most of you're post was irrelevant and nonsense.. as far as telling someone that same sex relationships are normal.. whats wrong with telling the truth.. if someone asks what do u want them to say???



posted on Dec, 27 2008 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
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Ridiculous! The title of marriage SHOULD be given to same sex couples because that's exactly what they would be: married. Atheists get married and are allowed to have the title, so saying the religion has to do with it is plain nonsense.

Here's the thing: If you believe that same sex marriage is wrong, don't have a same sex marriage. If you believe it will get you into hell, well then that saves you a little more room in heaven now doesn't it? It shouldn't be up to ANYONE to determine whether or not same sex marriage is "right" or "wrong"; however, same sex couples should have the right to be married.


No, in fact it is not so Ridiculous, in fact GAYS wanting to get married acting like they are being deprived of basic human rights whining like a bunch of blithering bubblegum chewing bimbosapienes is what is ridiculous



Bad argument No. 1
"Gay marriage is a basic human right."
There are huge differences between constitutional rights with few restrictions (such as the rights to life or free speech) and other rights with important restrictions, which do not carry the right of universal access. We already recognize that not everyone has the right to enlist in the army, but that one must be of the proper age, physical condition, citizenship, and philosophy—anarchists and pacifists need not apply. We also agree that certain persons do not have the right to marriage—children, multiple partners, family members, and those already married.

Bad argument No. 2
"Gay marriage is a civil right."
This is based on the false assumption that homosexuality is the same sort of human difference as race. But while the difference between sexual orientations is profound (one desires the opposite sex and procreates while the other does neither), racial difference has no intrinsic bearing on love and marriage. This is why philosophically opposed African American leaders such as Shelby Steele and Jesse Jackson agree that "gay marriage is simply not a civil rights issue."

Bad argument No. 3
"Opposition to gay marriage is discrimination."
Let's not mistake rational restriction for unconstitutional discrimination. Just as we rightly restrict marriage against polygamists, there is no constitutional reason why we cannot continue to restrict marriage to what all civilizations have defined for millennia: the union of a man and woman. This does not deny anyone the "equal protection of the laws," since this restriction applies equally to every individual.

Bad argument No. 4
"Marriage has changed through the centuries, so gay marriage would be just another development in its ever-changing definition."
True, our understandings of sex and the role of women in marriage have grown. While these changes are important, they are trivial when compared to the agreement across time and from East to West that the social institution of marriage is about the union of sexual opposites for, primarily, the procreation of children, as well as intimate companionship.

Bad argument No. 5
"Opposition to gay marriage is a violation of the separation of church and state."
It is true that Western marriage and family law stem in part from the Judeo-Christian tradition, as do many of our other laws. But the separation of church and state (assured by constitutional law) is different from the enforced separation of religion and politics, which is forbidden by the First Amendment.

Bad argument No. 6
"Marriage is necessary for gays to gain important legal benefits."
Homosexuals don't need marriage to gain most significant legal benefits. For example, hospital visitation depends on the wishes of the patient. If families disagree about medical treatment, even marriage won't solve the problem, as the Terry Schiavo case has demonstrated. The answer is medical power of attorney, which is open to anyone regardless of sexual orientation. Another example is Social Security benefits. Children's benefits are not dependent on the marital status of their parents, and the only certain benefit is a one-time death benefit of $255. A wife can access her deceased husband's Social Security, but if she has had her own work history, her Social Security benefit would usually be higher than the survivor's benefit—and she must choose one or the other. Most other benefits are based on work history.

Bad argument No. 7
"There is no proof that gay marriage would change the marriages of heterosexuals."
If marriage is all about fulfilling human desires and not parenting (as many proponents of gay marriage argue), it makes sense to dissolve marriages that don't seem fulfilling. Recent experience in Scandinavia suggests that when a society reduces marriage to this minimalist definition, families dissolve more quickly. British demographer Kathleen Kiernan has shown that since gay marriage came to Scandinavia in the early '90s, the out-of-wedlock birthrate has leaped significantly, and the family dissolution rate has risen. Only where the gay marriage movement had little success has the out-of-wedlock birthrate remained low. Marriage has virtually disappeared in the most gay-friendly districts of Norway, formerly the most conservative of the Nordic countries.

Bad argument No. 8
"Social science shows that gay parenting is no different from heterosexual parenting."
Many studies have claimed this, but, according to University of Chicago's emeritus professor of ethics and social sciences Don Browning, none of these studies was rigorous or large-scale. Stephen Nock, scholar of marriage at the University of Virginia, writes that every study on the subject of gay parenting "contained at least one fatal flaw," and "not a single one was conducted according to generally accepted standards of scientific research." Other studies show that children raised by homosexuals were more dissatisfied with their own gender, had homosexual experiences more frequently, and suffered a greater rate of molestation by members of their families (Adolescence, 1996; Archives of Sexual Behavior, 1986; American Sociological Review, 2001).

Bad argument No. 9
"The fact that many married couples do not have children proves that marriage is not intrinsically related to procreation."
Yet the fact remains that most married couples either have had or will have children. The exceptions prove the rule: Being married tends to prevent a person from having a child with someone other than his or her spouse. In all cultures, even if some couples are childless, marriage as an institution is principally concerned with children and, therefore, society's future.

Bad argument No. 10
"Heterosexuals have done a terrible job at marriage. Who are they to speak?"
It is true that half of all new heterosexual marriages end in divorce. But far more than half have succeeded, if you count marriages established before the divorce boom of the '70s and '80s. Yet the point is not how many are successful, but what marriage means. To accommodate gays, marriage would have to change into something it has never been: an institution for same-sex love without the biological possibility for children. It will probably not require sexual fidelity, which even the majority of unfaithful heterosexuals have conceded is the ideal. Some of the most prominent proponents of gay marriage, such as Andrew Sullivan, say the ideal needs to change, since gay understanding of fidelity includes other sexual liaisons.

Bad argument No. 11
"The resistance to gay marriage is motivated by fear and loathing for homosexuals."
While no large group is free of hate-mongers, the vast majority resist because they strongly believe in the positive features of traditional marriage. They have experienced the benefits of the lifelong union of two persons who are complementary in many important ways—biological, psychological, temperamental, and spiritual—and who, because of this complementarity, have a unique capacity to bear and nurture children. It is appreciation for the unparalleled success of this complementarity—not fear or hatred for gays—that motivates most Americans to oppose gay marriage.

Bad argument No. 12
"Those who resist gay marriage are irrational, Neanderthal, and bigoted."
The gay marriage movement is only a few decades old. Could it be that billions of people who for millennia upheld traditional marriage were really irrational and bigoted? On the contrary, we would argue that a common-sense understanding of life leads in the direction we have argued. Further, it seems clear that reason without religious vision misses the depth dimension of human life. It tends to dissolve basic human institutions into contracts between persons who make whatever they want of them, to the detriment of children and society.

Bad argument No. 13
"The legal issue of gay marriage ought to be left up to the states."
Quite the opposite, we need a national definition of marriage. Without a public definition embodied in a constitutional amendment, activist judges at various levels will undo the conviction of the vast majority of Americans. Some already have, in defiance of state defense-of-marriage acts. Precedent for a national definition is ample—the federal government outlawed polygamy in the 19th century and the Supreme Court has ruled in the 20th century on many cases regarding marriage.

In sum, there are many bad reasons for supporting gay marriage. In contrast, there are many good reasons for protecting historic understandings of marriage, a public institution whose fate will determine the future of our society.



posted on Dec, 27 2008 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by misuneko
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OMG....

I have never heard of something so bitter....

Humans, sleep around regardless of sexual oriantation. FACT
Humans spread diease around regardless of sexual orination. FACT
Humans hurt eachother regardless of sexual orination. FACT

I see no difference in comparing Gays to Straights as they are both the same when you actually look at the differences. Other than procreation there is no other difference. And a Human can procreate regardless of Sexual Orination if they desire to. (as long as they do not have any medical reason why they cant.)




NOT SO
Over the years “Christians” have blurred the line between right and wrong, redefined Truth, and perverted the true meaning of Love. The homosexual community, as well as the church have utterly deceived people , tolerating, and promoting a false gospel of “love.”

But God tells us to, “Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.” - Romans 12:9

How can we abhor evil if we love, accept and tolerate that which is evil? According to the Bible, it is HATE to NOT rebuke your neighbor in sin. Real love warns sinners while hate stands silently by as hell's population continues to grow!

Gays are nothing more than children of the grave.


TRUTH is Hate, to those who Hate TRUTH!

So where does that leave us? If hate is so wrong, why does God tell us that “there is a time for hate" (Ecclesiastes 3:8)?

Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex

One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year. The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.



* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting.

* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior".

* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years.

* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States. They make up only 1-2% of the population.

* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus.

*the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals".

* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us

* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne.

* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism.

* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs.

* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75.

* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor.

* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age.

Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality".

www.massresistance.org...


While many of them like to blame religion for the reasons their hated or disliked, feared, discriminated against etc. NONE of them will bother to take a damn look at their vulgar repugnant and disgusting life style ( as if it had any style at all)

Even the bashing they blame redneck for or macho straights, is not entirely true either, you see gays lie about that too

* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals)



posted on Dec, 27 2008 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by sir_chancealot

Originally posted by Jezus
...but in modern times most homophobic people are repressed homosexuals.

Experiments have found that the majority of people "against" gays are aroused by the same sex.

Their anger comes from self hate. It sucks to be hated by other people, but to hate yourself is hell.


[edit on 26-12-2008 by Jezus]


So, people that are against car thieves want to steal a car? People who are against rapists actually want to rape? People who are against pedophiles want to molest children? Your supposition is a non-sequitur if there ever was one.

Most "normal" people are against gays because, in ALL societies, throughout ALL of history, gays are not content to just be left alone. They have, again historically, and in modern times, wanted people to say that being homosexual was ok, and to teach their kids that it was ok, and just another "choice" in life.

When the Boy Scouts wanted to exclude homosexuals from being Scout Masters, did the homosexuals say "Fine, we will start our own form of Boy Scouts, and show you that you are wrong"? No, they filed suit and all kinds of things to make it "accepted" amongst a group that had no intention or desire to accept it.

And you wonder why so many people come to resent gays? Homosexuals want to teach kids as young as kindergartners that it's "ok" to HAVE SEX with someone of the same gender. This, at a time when kids of those age think the opposite sex has "cooties".


And you wonder why so many people are against gays?

I'll tell you this: I could care less who my neighbor is boinking. But, if he tried to tell my child that a homosexual "relationship" was normal, then we'd most certainly have words. Leave me alone, and I leave you alone is my motto. This, most homosexuals do not do. They seem to demand that everyone accept their choice as "normal" and "right".

To the person I quoted: What does your pop-psychology say about a group of people that want everyone to think like them, with no dissent allowed?



I totally agree and here again is their repulsive pushy bullcrap being done to get an all Christian dating website to accept gays using the Communists at the ACLU to sue e-harmony.com until they capitulated.

Story Here



posted on Dec, 27 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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That thing was probably written by a gay person.



Originally posted by Jezus

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
So, people that are against car thieves want to steal a car? People who are against rapists actually want to rape? People who are against pedophiles want to molest children?


That is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever read on this website...

Most homophobes are gay, sorry but it is true. They feel intense shame because of their own personal beliefs and they direct this hate onto other people.

Most Homophobes are Gay
www.ipce.info...

Top Five Republican Gay Sex Scandals
www.badmouth.net...

Gore Vidal discusses a 1996 study on homophobia, which revealed that homophobic males were aroused by gay porn, while non-homophobes were not.
findingthefilth.blogspot.com...

New research by U.S. psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings.
rosecottage.me.uk...

Southern Baptist leader arrested for soliciting male cop
www.washblade.com...



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Jezus
reply to post by Aermacchi
 


That thing was probably written by a gay person.



Originally posted by Jezus

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
So, people that are against car thieves want to steal a car? People who are against rapists actually want to rape? People who are against pedophiles want to molest children?


That is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever read on this website...

Most homophobes are gay, sorry but it is true. They feel intense shame because of their own personal beliefs and they direct this hate onto other people.

Most Homophobes are Gay
www.ipce.info...

Top Five Republican Gay Sex Scandals
www.badmouth.net...

Gore Vidal discusses a 1996 study on homophobia, which revealed that homophobic males were aroused by gay porn, while non-homophobes were not.
findingthefilth.blogspot.com...

New research by U.S. psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings.
rosecottage.me.uk...

Southern Baptist leader arrested for soliciting male cop
www.washblade.com...


You mean like your post was written by a gay person who thinks everyone writing negative info about gay people is another gay person having issues, kinda person?

Nope wasn't one of them and you would have already known your own posts so it couldn't have been you either. Guess it must a been those other "types",, you know they ones they call EXPERTS.



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 12:32 AM
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The only word I have to use with you is it,....you are super stupid,, what? you think you are?,,,,, a macho man? I'm not a gay and do not support people like you and you do know nothing about life , why don live? your poor sad, idiot, stupid life and let other people live they life, as they want. you skull is smallish that a monkey.



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 01:33 AM
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I don't think it has anything to do with gays being feminine as some people have pointed out... It is a travesty that gay people are not given equal rights as other american citizens on the simple basis of sexual preference. People don't just decide one day to be gay. It happens naturally.. When my cousin was 4 he would dress up in girls close and try to put on my grandmother's makeup.. Noone taught him how to do it.. He was simply born gay just as most others are simply born heterosexual. It happens.

The way I see it, the only reason gays are hated in our society are

1 - Religion. Religion is the basis for most of the morality in our society. Christians try to defend what they see as the social norms by using the bible as a guide for "acceptable" human behavior based on scripture. What they fail to see is that alot of scripture in the bible is full of questionable behavior (like polygamy) and that if people really did use the bible to determine social norms they wouldn't be so hateful towards gays. You can't cherry-pick the scripture and use that to determine what is right and wrong in society.. That doesn't make any sense at all. Especially since much of the bible is open to interpretation.. And when you consider the countless dead who have been killed in the name of a god in one form or another, you see how evil religious idealism can really be.

People have always used interpretation of religious text to justify their own evil actions. After all, if you think god is on your side, you can do no wrong right? Tell that to terrorists who fly planes into buildings or willingly blow themselves up for their own divine motives. Religion does not exactly have a perfect track record when it comes to determining what people see as right and wrong. But people usually only see that in hindsight too as religious idealism can truly convince people they are right and everyone else is wrong.

When you truly consider how twisted religious idealism can really be, you really see how this whole idea of right and wrong sexual conduct falls apart.. Especially when you consider polygamy in the bible and all kinds of behavior that is quite contrary to what many see as traditional Christian marriage between a man and a woman, yet they still cling to cherry-picking scripture to justify this on-going war on homosexuality.

2 - The issue of gay marriage. People don't like the idea of 2 gay men getting married because they believe it somehow imposes on and threatens what many view as the traditional sanctity of marriage which many view as being between one man and one woman. Where this comes from I don't know. It could be a combination of fear and religious fundamentalism. Alot of people see homosexuality as being some kind of new, modern trend but that isn't exactly the case and there is no way of knowing whether or not more people are gay today than 1,000 years ago..

We do know that homosexuality has been around for a very long time and for all we know the percentage of homosexuals in the world hasn't really ever changed but there is no way to know that with any level of certainty. Therefore, the idea that homosexuality is a modern trend infiltrating traditional religious values in our society is obviously false..

3- People are unwilling to believe that someone born gay is just like someone being born with some other kind of handicap. People don't willingly claim to be gay one day, only to be shunned and cast out by their entire family, disowned by their parents, and then face a an up-hill battle in life in general for the rest of their days because of fear and ignorance within the rest of society. I have seen it happen before.

People don't willingly choose that life for themselves nor do they want it. It is what it is. It is not a conscious decision nor is there any decision in the matter.. But when you think about it, the only reason people can personally justify a hatred of homosexuality is by clinging to this idea that it is a conscious decision to be "evil" against the will of god when that whole idea doesn't make any sense in the first place..

4- Court rulings determining new social norms is scary. Especially when it might contradict biblical scripture when the bible itself is a basis for right, wrong, morality, and our legal system in general. Gay people getting married isn't going to somehow magically make people gay until, eventually, our entire society is full of homosexuals and we can't reproduce anymore.. That doesn't make any sense.. Nor is there anything that might even suggest that might happen. This is the kind of fundamental flaw in human decision making that always prevents us from moving on from this entire issue. It is called fear and denial.

-ChriS



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Aermacchi
You mean like your post was written by a gay person who thinks everyone writing negative info about gay people is another gay person having issues, kinda person?


Well I'm just going with probability.

and I'm not gay, I just agree with this...


Originally posted by BlasteR
It is a travesty that gay people are not given equal rights as other American citizens on the simple basis of sexual preference. People don't just decide one day to be gay. It happens naturally..



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 11:50 AM
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Hmmmmmmm............. A controversial topic. How can I stay away? I can't.
Someone is gay. Yeah. So? Love is love. Let's look at this shall we?
Hetero vs. Gay.
I personally enjoy 'private time' with the opposite sex.
Do I care if others enjoy 'private time' with the same sex? No. No I don't. It's none of my business.
Love is a strong word. Who am I to judge who others might love? Who is anyone to judge?
If someone finds solace in anothers arms who is of the same gender, GOOD FOR THEM.
I hate to use the old cliche` that I have friends who are (Insert term here).
I do have gay friends. They are my friends, and I think no differently of them than I do of my hetero friends. Why should it make a difference?
The answer is quite simple. It shouldn't make even a difference the size of a quark.

I feel sorry for those who are so short sighted as to judge someone due solely to a sexual orientation.



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Jezus

Originally posted by Aermacchi
You mean like your post was written by a gay person who thinks everyone writing negative info about gay people is another gay person having issues, kinda person?


Well I'm just going with probability.

and I'm not gay, I just agree with this...


Originally posted by BlasteR
It is a travesty that gay people are not given equal rights as other American citizens on the simple basis of sexual preference. People don't just decide one day to be gay. It happens naturally..


yeah narcolepsy epilepsy both happen naturally too but that doesn't mean they should allow them to have the right to drive a car.

It's simply a bad argument and facts that I posted above are so many that to ignore ALL of them is just ignorant. On the basis of equal rights their arguments they are not being treated equally is bunk! In Fact for the most part, they are nothing but a small segment we are bending over backwards to placate JUST to get them to stop whining.

it is the whining and the idea they have a bigger say than the majority when they are the minority I take issue with. Who they wanna boink and what they wanna do at home i couldn't care less but like so many others have said here THAT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. They want to be treated SPECIAL not EQUAL but SPECIAL.

Well they ain't special and any gay guy is allowed to marry anyone of the opposite sex they want just like the rest of us have to do. You open up a whole can of worms making it about sexual prefernce and if you can't see how that will be the final nail in the institution of marriage, just wait till the ACLU starts suing the States where bisexuals want to be married in groups which will bring about polygamy making THAT an issue or people who are A-Sexual wanting to marry themslves. Think it won't go there? Think again as i am one who still thinks same sex marriage would never be an issue but it is.

It is a STUPID Idea and we will regret it like it has been where ever it has been allowed to happen.



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