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Welcome to the New 60's: The Revolution Is You.

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posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 12:53 PM
It struck me the other day that we are reliving the 1960's right now. We have a huge environmental movement going on (Earth Day v. global warming); we’re trying to end a war (Vietnam v. Iraq); we’re living under the threat of an attack by a boogieman (communists v. terrorists); distrust for government is on the rise (Nixon/Watergate/Kent State v. Bush/911/WMD); the country was rocked by tragedy (Kennedy assassination v. 911); there is an awakening of younger people and their increased political involvement.

Yes, there were differences (there always are) but having lived through both I still sense the wheel coming around again. Only this time, I feel the stakes are infinitely higher and the consequences of the wrong choices dire to say the least. This post isn’t about Bush-bashing, Republicans v. Democrats, liberals v. conservatives, Christians v. non-Christians. There are myriad other threads for you in which to thrash that out. This thread is about how we make it through the next decade. How we right a badly listing ship of state.

The very principals upon which this country was founded and that set us apart from virtually every other nation on the planet have been systematically imperiled. We’d all rather watch American Idol and Deal or No Deal than think about this. Unfortunately, we no longer have a choice. The individuals we have been putting in government to afford us the luxury of sinking fat and happy into our couches have found that serving the political machine is far more fulfilling than serving us, The People. In the last mid-term election the voters ‘sent a message’ by overturning the Congress. Our message was unambiguous: The war isn’t working. End it now. The Congress has done jack and the President has said time and again he doesn’t care what the Congress and, by extension, what the American People want. Say what?

The Constitution is the foundation of this country and everything for which it stands --- like it or not. It is under siege by people and organizations that find it an obstacle to their personal and business agendas. There are many among us who believe that the Constitution and Bill of Rights have become anachronistic and unnecessary. If that is the case then we should vote, as a country, to amend or discard the provisions contained in those documents. Under no circumstances, however, should anyone or any group --- elected or otherwise --- have the authority to unilaterally circumvent or suspend the provisions of those documents. Nor should anyone or any group be allowed to act, or fail to act, based upon a non-traditional reinterpretation of those provisions. Those documents contain, among other things, the contract between us, The People, and our elected officials. That contract must be enforced.

The United States is not a true democracy. We are a Republic which is a form of governance based upon popular representation and popular consent. It would seem we no longer have either.

Every military person takes an oath to uphold the Constitution:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same…”

Every Congressman takes a similar oath:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.

And, of course, the President:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Considering that defending and upholding the Constitution constitutes the prime directive for our military and elected government how, then, have we allowed it to become subordinated?

In the ‘last’ 1960’s we had a cause. The cause was to save the world. Lofty, characteristically unrealistic but sincere it was. We believed. There really hasn’t been a unifying ‘cause’ since. Lots of equally important but fractured causes but no real unifying cause. When the chips are down we don’t get to choose our cause. It’s thrust upon us. And I’m here to tell you that the single most important issue facing all of us is saving the United States and taking it back from the people that stole it while we were all asleep.

I know many of you on ATS aren’t from the US. Some could care less whether we stand or fall and many myopic folks would love to see the giant tumble. We are an imperfect country and an imperfect people. But if anyone thinks that they would be immune from the impact of a collapse of the United States you are as clueless as we have been to allow things to get so far in the first place.

I’m by no means the first person to bring this up. Nor have I done it the most eloquently. But as a 55 year old man that has lived through the Cold War, The Cuban Missile Crisis, recessions, a stock market crash, two real estate collapses, the dot-com crash, the savings and loan meltdown, assassinations, attempted assassinations, a half-dozen wars, the draft, an epidemic, a gas crisis, an oil crisis, eathquakes, riots, a nuclear meltdown, Y2K, 911, and an anthrax attack, to name just a few, I am here to tell you with every bit of sincerity that I can muster that we have never been in more peril than we are at this very moment. No, it’s not time to panic but by the same token no magical person or entity is going to suddenly show-up to save our asses either. This is on us folks.

We need to identify and support an organization that has the stated mission to educate the American people. Not about 911 conspiracies, the NWO, reptilians, drones and all the other issues that are dear to our hearts here on ATS but the very basic and fundamental issues surrounding the usurpation of their system of government and their country. We most definitely can change the course of history and we had damned better get started. Time is running out.

My challenge to the ATS community and to anyone who gives a rodent’s tuchus is where do we start? What organization has the potential clout and mindset to be the vehicle? Who has the will?

[edit on 19-7-2007 by jtma508]

posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 06:01 PM

Originally posted by jtma508
My challenge to the ATS community and to anyone who gives a rodent’s tuchus is where do we start? What organization has the potential clout and mindset to be the vehicle? Who has the will?

We start with what you, I, and hundreds of others have already done. Making a conscience acceptance as to what's going on and using the first remedial source we have... speech. We see what's going on. We're very displeased. So we tell those that we elected how we feel, after all... they are our representatives... our "Public Servants". That in itself needs to be remembered by the millions across the nations. The Government serves us, we don't serve them.

Any organization has the potential clout to be the vehicle. The thing is, that vehicle needs to "drive around". Spread the word by any means possible. Education is the key.

I strongly believe that there aren't many people with the will to speak up anymore. That has got to be our biggest hurdle. There is a major lack of courage nowadays. However, it must be known that when you do confront your elected representatives... they don't know how to handle it. For example, a few months ago, I ventured to a local visit from Rep. Jerry Moran. Myself and shooterbrody jumped at the chance to "demand answers". When we approached Mr. Moran about the Iraq war... he attempted to play it cool with the same old "we gotta fight them there, so they don't come here" speech. No one in the room wanted to ask anything about Iraq... there was no concern. So we made several comments.... "3,000 people died 9/11 and we attack Iraq. 15 million died last year from car accidents. Why don't we declare war on General Motors?" We got a small chuckle. We then proceeded with, "The war in Iraq isn't a war, because a war has never been declared. With no declaration of war... how can you have an exit strategy?" People began to listen up at that point.

I guess what my point is... there's a creature in this land. The creature called apathy. Unfortunately... not too many will act upon this Administrations wrong doings... until it directly affects them, personally and directly. The lack of will begins right there... those people that don't care, and don't want to get involved. And I believe whole heartedly... when that creature called apathy finally gets removed... it will be too late. However, it will also be that "sleeping giant" that shouldn't have been aroused.

As for myself... and my will.

I repeatedly write my Congresspeople. I make phone calls to them, as well. I take part in anything that I possibly can to educate myself, and others around me. I spread the word... in person, here on ATS, on my personal website (which is dedicated to education about the US Constitution and our rights), and I gleefully accept the labeling as a Conspiracy nut... continuing with the best of my ability to share, or point out, the ongoings of our Government and the road of which it's heading down.... at breakneck speed.

Nice thread.

[edit on 7/19/2007 by Infoholic]

posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 10:34 PM
No way. The war is diffrent now, drugs are too. people are too lazy to protest.....I am not getting out in 98 degree weather to hold up a sign....frankly if we tried that stuff today the gov would probably "flashy thing" us.

[edit on 19-7-2007 by TXMACHINEGUNDLR]

posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 10:37 PM
great thread. however, why would we be in more peril now than we were during the cuban missile crisis? and i am not trying to discredit you at all. i am saying the same thing.however, what particular factors make that your assesment?

posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 11:17 PM

Originally posted by ka47
great thread. however, why would we be in more peril now than we were during the cuban missile crisis? and i am not trying to discredit you at all. i am saying the same thing.however, what particular factors make that your assesment?

Thinking the same thing.

I think that the cuban missile crisis we were under more peril. why? We were minutes from it all going up. MINUTES. No threat of, no terror alert orange or yellow or whatever stuff. It was real. I grew up in miami, so I've spoken to, heard of, known people who were involved on a lot of fronts of the whole bay of pigs fiasco and the missile crisis. They all tell me they are amazed that it didn't go in flames then. And there were weapons of mass destruction. But I wasn't alive then, so I don't know the climate, all I know is what I was told.

Now it's a little different, while the terror exists, I feel it to be more of a government controlled thing used to conjure up fear, the ultimate control factor. It's all a game to some extent. It's the chance of something else happening that has ppl shaken. The media putting the images and keywords everyday don't help.

TXMACHINEGUNDLR mentioned funny things in his reply, but it does have a point in the people are too lazy to protest. I don't see it as lazy, but apathy b/c of the fact that we see nothing happening on the good front. Why waste the time, nothing's going to change? Why does it even matter?

It would be nice to have a worldwide protest against war, everyone sitting in on their jobs and not doing anything to keep this whole BS cash system going, just for a day even. I always metnion it, but Just for a day It would be nice for nobody to invest in this shackle of a system...

[edit on 7/19/2007 by acegotflows]

posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 11:32 PM
This is one of the best written threads I have ever had the pleasure to read on ATS. FLAGGED!

IMHO we are witnessing the government in which we have entrusted limited power to protect our rights – grow into a hideous behemoth controlled by an elite that continually increases in power and now enslaves the people in the guise of protection.

I honestly believe we face the same type of maniacal government our fore-fathers warned about and fought so bravely against.

We witness Americans who favor the type of government that “guarantees” compulsory safety and security. Many of our fellow citizens genuinely prefer government control of their own and their neighbor’s lives. The problem is that most of them aren't going to change their minds. Thats a big problem.

Do we rush to action? Well, obviously we don’t. We continue to allow ourselves to be governed by our inferiors. The American people are becoming more and more afraid of, and are running away from, their own revolution.

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 12:16 AM
Great post! Definitely flagged!

I think that as a card-carrying member of Generation Y. I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. :LOL:

I think many in the younger community know or are in the process of knowing what the BS is. I saw a news report talking of Generation Y, being the generation to ask themselves why things went wrong. I have asked myself this many times. I think generation Y will be the generation that will change all of our perceptions and misconceptions. I know that they have no problem telling how they feel and what they think is right. We don't follow the society or culture. Culture follows us.

Man, it really sounds like I have a big generational ego, but the first thing that our generation is getting over is emotions. That is why there is emo music, because it deals with getting over your issues in a positive and non-destructive way.

Once we learn more about our society, there is nothing stopping us, but the Babyboomers. And, they are mainly hippies as well, hence why our system is much more socialist now.

The truth is that our control now is money, because we love stuff. I love video games, music, having a good time, good vibes and being positive in a world of negatives. The black clothes are both cool and show off our displeasure with the world around us.

I am very much a hippie. I like to smoke pot, but I also smoke for pain issues which is another story. I don't smoke anymore, because it is illegal in my state. I mean you only get a $100 fine if you can prove you were using it for medicinal purposes, but that is a cash grab.

I personally believe that the world, and the United States in particular, is going through an evolution. I believe that many old "hippies" understand that the world is a game, so they play to win. I think a lot of them also understand that this system will not last forever. Mainly the money system and the corruption to the human spirit being a slave to it causes.

I believe somewhat in destiny. I believe that as Americans we are being tested by fear. Terrorism and George W. Bush the potent combination of the fear-giving conglomerate. That being said, terrorism is a real problem that needs to be addressed, but we cannot do the one thing that need to be done for it and close our borders. We almost can't close our borders, because there always is a way around any security. And you don't want to think about the ramification of closing our borders would have on us as citizens.

Our system is broke. Our country is broke. Our corrupted politics of divisiveness and stalewart is broke, how do we fix it?

Well, we could make like Czechoslovakia did with their velvet revolution and protest en masse. Our money system already is bunk, just look into the federal reserve. Right now, America is a floating corpse being propped up by the banking conglomerates. Of course, they are nice enough help us, but at what cost to us our country.

Maybe our whole country could file for bankruptcy. That's a funny idea. Some economists is saying that the US may be track for a big depression/recession. Some economists even speculate that the whole world could go into depression if America's economic system goes.

The velvet revolution:

Of course, do we really want to protest?

We are too complacent as a people. We have been lulled to sleep by the caching-ing of cash registers and awesome technology. I know it's a ridiculous tough world out there in America, but we cope.


[edit on 20-7-2007 by frailty]

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 12:17 AM

My generation copes, but when is too much BS, too much. I don't know. I can't speak for everyone in Generation Y. What I do know is that our lack of power and money makes us go inside our pads, smoke weed and enjoy our lives. When it comes to protesting, we are patient enough to wait our turn and just have a good time till then.

So, our generation is taking full use of our freedom of speech on the net. We are taking some freedoms we don't have. And through the net, we have access to the world and information. We don't care, but we don't want to do anything about it. That's a conundrum!

I can't speak for everyone in my generation, just based on experience. I could go on and talk more about my opinion, but what's the use. The world is what is, and people are what they are.

We are evolving psychologically. To the point that the only control is self-control.

The question is:
Does our government know what is going on through intelligence?

We are just starting to make sense of the world, cut us some slack. :LOL:

I know "The only thing to fear is fear itself."

[edit on 20-7-2007 by frailty]

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 12:29 AM

That is the only chance we have. It doesn't matter how you are involved, why you are involved, or what side you are on, once you become involved things can change.

Most Americans are in the middle and distracted. Only the extreme rights and lefts show up to vote. The powers that be have used this to their advantage for the last 50 years. Why should someone have their right to vote taken away? Most voter rolls are purged after "x" amount of elections with out participation. You only have to get 1 social security number and the government seems to handle that ok, but don't vote in 3 consecutive elections and then show up for the 4th and see what happens.

They don't want any of us involved. I don't care what "side" your on; just get involved before it is too late.

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 12:36 AM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it
Well spoken, and good post!!!
I know how much we hate one liners but i had to back you up on this.

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 01:08 AM

Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
No way. The war is diffrent now, drugs are too. people are too lazy to protest.....I am not getting out in 98 degree weather to hold up a sign....frankly if we tried that stuff today the gov would probably "flashy thing" us.

[edit on 19-7-2007 by TXMACHINEGUNDLR]

OK i am all for equal union and independant governments and stuff.

In other words i think tampering with the government is wrong, clearly it is the government and it governs everything we do.

I have noticed though because occasionally i scan through the government channels and stuff and noticed a little bit of "clicking" like diffrent comodities in the world being reprezented by diffrent people in the government.

I think that is the root of all the burdons.

Let the government do their jobs, however when it comes to the point of someone who works for the energy commitee recieving overboard responses from other politicians i think that is overboard.

there are few things i think should be changed. matter of a fact i can't think of any really. the homeland security spying i think it is very necessary.

the war in iraq i dont have an answer because i dont know much about it.

but i think the iraq conflict is the only real key topic.

however one thing that has affected me greatly is the abuse of power in my neighborhood and the abilities that some people have to use it to manipulate others.

as long as people have their civil rights and most of their constitutional rights given to them when this country was founded. then more power to them, other than that. i could care less.

however this is the other thing i noticed there are alot of posts about top secret government operations and stuff and reading about it is cool and making jokes about it is cool.

however i mean are you really gonna care if the government shuts down some terrorists or something. probably not.

i just like the posts about extraterrestrials and ghosts and maybe read some funny stories along the way.

but like if the cia or nsa does crack down on korean drug lords or something, are you gonna be upset. probably not. why would you even start a fuss about it.

[edit on 20-7-2007 by DominionOfGozer]

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 01:20 AM

Originally posted by frailty
We are evolving psychologically. To the point that the only control is self-control.

I love this thread and your post in particular.

I'd like to point out that growing psychologically is good, and you should consciously work on it, but also on your physicality and spirituality. Balance all 3 and when the time comes and you are handed the reigns, our world stands a much improved chance of progressing rather than dissolving. It is nothing new, it is simply the natural path of human growth been denied to 'muggles' for millenia by a self-perpetuating elite to maintain a pyramidical hierarchy of control.

Don't get caught up in the hurley, just learn to laugh at how absurdly people hang onto materialistic baggage. Improving the world all flows from improving yourself. Realise you exist as an avatar within a complex virtual reality, with your soul at the keyboard & mouse. You're here to observe, learn and contribute where possible. Walk a compassionate and enquiring path rather than be selfish like the baby boomers, sell outs like the hippies, or dissassociative like Gen x. Good luck Gen Y!

Gen X

Ps, read lots of philosophy!

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 02:47 AM

Originally posted by jtma508
But as a 55 year old man that has lived through the Cold War, The Cuban Missile Crisis, recessions, a stock market crash, two real estate collapses, the dot-com crash, the savings and loan meltdown, assassinations, attempted assassinations, a half-dozen wars, the draft, an epidemic, a gas crisis, an oil crisis, eathquakes, riots, a nuclear meltdown, Y2K, 911, and an anthrax attack, to name just a few, I am here to tell you with every bit of sincerity that I can muster that we have never been in more peril than we are at this very moment.

No, it's just that you've never been older than you are at this very moment.

No disrespect intended. I'm just six years younger than you are and I know what this feels like. Remember the good old days?

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 02:58 AM
there seems to be, simultaneous with our modern social crisis, an escalation of the level of personal crisis of everyone around me. i do not think these crisis are directly related. they are related through as though all of our lives individually, and collectively, are reading from the same script.

i do not believe that the average american is as complacent as you all are describing. we are all individually experiencing this change, synchronistically, on a deeply personal level.

over the past several months i have watched my "average american" folks, whom i would previously have thought to be incapable of upset, enter a stage of open acknowledgment of our current issues. this is a HUGE progress.

i agree with the OP's comparison of our current state with the 60's. however, there is a major difference. in the 60's, they stole our heart. tuns and tuns of belief and desire out there now.....but absolutely NO heart.

because of this lack of heart, i honestly believe that nothing short of a savior (or utter disaster) will bring conclusion to this mess.

in the same way, synchronistically, i think people look at the mess their own lives have become, and realise that there is no solution that they, themselves, can accomplish.

what will the ending of this story be?

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 07:44 AM
get a Save America telethon & mega concert going to finance the
acquisition of the former ACLU...

commander that group to begin proceedings for impeachment of every local, state, federal, elected official that is not upholding the Constitution
as it is presently this moment in time.

that would be a start!

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 09:38 AM

Originally posted by ka47
great thread. however, why would we be in more peril now than we were during the cuban missile crisis? and i am not trying to discredit you at all. i am saying the same thing.however, what particular factors make that your assesment?

I grew up in your typical post-WWII suburban development. Modest 2BR house. My dad was a lineman for the local electric company and had been since he returned from the war. At the time, he was a Captain in the Army Reserves. That meant Reserve meetings every other Tuesday evening and a couple weeks active duty every summer. Piece of cake.

I was 10 years old. I woke up to a commotion in the kitchen and got up to see what was going on. My mother was crying. My dad was sitting at the kitchen table in full fatigues with his helmet, sidearm, unit's phone list and telephone on the table. His duffle was on the floor next to him. He was staggeringly serious. I had never seen anything like this. I was sent back to bed without having a clue what was going on. It wasn't until years later that I connected the dots.

Yeah. The CMC was a close call. It almost happened. Almost. The situation now is happening. It has been happening for a long time but we're rapidly approaching a crescendo. The backbone, the framework of our country is being dismantled right before our eyes and once it's gone there will be virtually no way to get it back.

I understand apathy. I understand how we're all wrapped-up in our own little personal struggles. I am as guilty as anyone. But the fact is --- and I have come to personally recognize this fact --- as inconvenient as it may be, we very well may have a narrow and rapidly closing window in which to do anything to change the course of this country. There has always been a degree of malfeasance and shenanigans in government. But the scale, seriousness and longrange implications of what is going on today is truly unprecedented.

The 2008 elections are (hopefully) 17mos away. Alot can happen in 17mos. 'They' can terminate our right to protest, hold public gatherings or publish (on the internet and elsewhere) desenting views in the blink of an eye becuase of a 'heightened need for security'. And then what?

Many of you, like me, visit if not contribute to the Survival forum. In that forum we regularly discuss Situation-X (Sit-X). People, this IS Sit-X. Right now on YOUR watch. My dad's generation didn't want the responsibility of having to deal with WWII. It was dealt them. This has been dealt us.

Don't for one second file this with Y2K and all the other 'sky-is-falling' topics. This is real. The hardcore evidence is all around you and you KNOW it to be true. You can feel it. We just don't want to accept it. Hell, I don't want to accept it.

This issue is larger than the wars, larger then the economy, larger than terrorism, larger than immigration and larger than the 2008 campaigns. It is at the heart of all those things and more. There are many, many people who understand this and we need to get all of us connected and working --- in an organized and cohesive manner --- to make more people recognize what's going on. We can make a difference. We can force a change in direction. It is most certainly not going to be easy but it can be done. More importantly,the alternative is unacceptable.

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 10:55 AM

Originally posted by DominionOfGozer
In other words i think tampering with the government is wrong, clearly it is the government and it governs everything we do.

No, that's just what they want you to think. The Government tampers with us...And they tamper with the Natural Law as set forth by the Creator.

Read the Constitution & think about what it stands for: It was designed & written to act as the Supreme Law of the Land, second only to the Laws of Nature & the Creator who set them forth. The Creator's Laws of Nature govern the whole planet. The ambition of the US Founding Forefathers was a lot more humble...They only wanted to govern a single Nation, yet they let the Natural Law guide their thoughts into a true New World Order, completely different from all Governments before them: The sovereignty of the People Over Government--This was a huge goal that's never before been tried in the entirety of human history!

Over in this thread, a few years ago, I put my decades-long study of history to use & wrote up a brief synopsis: That thread represents how the three major "power groups" (there's also one minor power group) have interacted with each other, down throughout human history & what the results of their "power plays" have done to humanity as a whole. Those Power Groups have always vied for power between each other & the masses of people that they've been deceiving all along. Each power group has had its own time in the limelight, but the constant struggles between them keeps "shifting the balance" between them & its always been the mass of society that's suffered throughout those struggles & power-shifts.
Yes, the fourth power group I mentioned, ironically, is the largest & most powerful of the four Groups...But the three Major Groups have always sucked power out of the fourth group to fuel the struggles between each other. That's why society has suffered...Because the most powerful group had always been kept in chains to unwillingly feed the other three groups. Who is that most powerful of groups that had been doing nothing but feeding the greed & ambition of the other three groups? The People! This is why human history has never acheived balance & prosperity...This is why humanity has been in constant cycles of war, death, oppression/suppression all throughout history!

When the US Founding Forefathers needed to create a Government, they looked at history too...My own studies in history only taught me what they had already known about humanity. They wrote the Constitution in order to achieve a stabilizing influence between those Power Groups, to maintain a balance between them so that society wouldn't suffer as they shifted the Balance of Power; The Founding Forefathers tried to set up the Government so that the one Power Group that had always been on the losing side could take charge...The People. The real winners would be the People because they would be the ones responsible for maintaining balance among the other three Groups that had always oppressed/suppressed them down throughout history! This is why the Founding Forfathers wrote the Constitutional system of "checks & balances" in the first place! It would be the fulcrum upon which to maintain balance of the three major Power Groups, all for the benefit of everyone, including the people who worked within those Power Groups...If everyone benefits, then all will prosper!

It would be a true New World Order because the largest & strongest group would be in a position to balance the other three Groups to the benefit of all people! All throughout history, humanity had always been "Government over the People" but with the new USA, the positions would be reversed for the first time in history! What really went wrong in America is that the People stopped watching & controlling the Government...I speak of the general Public Apathy that Infoholic has already mentioned. "The people...are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty," said Thomas Jefferson. He was right. By losing sight of & control over our Government, it's done the same thing that Governments always do...And that is to oppress/suppress the People & assume control again, just as history had already proven it would do. Even though most People don't have to take the Constitutional Oath required to serve in Government, it's still the Civic Duty of all Citizens to enforce that Oath upon those who take the Oath; This is where America has failed.

When you read the Constitution, pay particular attention to the two parts that require all Federal & State positions, all three Branches, to swear a legally binding Oath to obey the Constitution. Then take a close look at what the Government's been doing to constantly erode it; They've been running the Government like a Corporate Facism that cares nothing for our world or the People on it.

And even so, that very same Constitution is an "Employment Contract," set forth by The People for the hiring of employees...The Office Holders. The People own this Nation & we've hired other people to manage our holdings & direct our resources so that WE THE PEOPLE benefit; Look at how much our Employees have ripped off from us! If you owned an actual business & your employees ripped you off & manipulated control of it out from under you, what is the most reasonable course of action you should take? You'd fire them, wouldn't you? Then you'd take a much closer look at your "employee screening" procedures & hire someone who will do the job right & adhere to your employment contract.

The Government has been consistantly been violating the very same Laws that put them in those Offices. It should not matter what they think of the Constitution; Whether they like it or not, they swore an Oath to obey it & are bound by Law to obey it! Yet, they consider themselves to be above the Law & that cannot be tolerated...Simply because the collapse of Law results in Anarchy! Society abhors an Anarchy as much as Nature abhors a Vacuum--It's when the Laws of Nature decide to re-fill that vacuum is when everything starts to really suck!

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 03:39 PM
The peril now seems to be the fear and systems that we are caught up in. Meanwhile all these bad things are happening and being accepted as commonplace. Flouride and things of that nature introduced to everyday products. I feel like this is Batman and everyone's on joker brand. Truth be told, the battlefield now is the mind and there are so many people stuck on dead end. Some of us are just to drained to change. Others don't care. They keep this bs system churning.

The situation is going down now. It is happening, but the awareness of it TRULY isn't much. At least in my encounters it hasn't been. Maybe it's me, or maybe it's just that many sheep out there, and people caught up in their little matrixes.

I understand that this is really happening. I do. The problem is that a lot of people I am around daily don't, they just know something's not right. They don't understand why the terms police state and martial law are being thrown about right now.

I see enough bad things when I close my eyes, some of it happened already, to know the score. I speak about it all the time, I write rhymes actually and speak of these issues.

It just seems to me that people are dealing with their own personal leviathans, and the world situation is just something else. Very micro minded. Not everyone, Just noticing that a lot where I'm at. It's scary b/c it's like we're all on autopilot sometimes.

Since 2001 I didn't think we'd see 2008 elections. I hope that I'm wrong...

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 05:33 PM

Very nice post.Honest,to the point and very well written.
I am Canadian,and speaking just for myself,i do give a rat's tuchus about what happens with USA.I am pretty sure i am not the only one.Unfortunatelly we are only outsiders.

posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 10:19 PM
yes, i agree for sure. i can DEFINITELY feel it. not to mention, it seems like everybody's going insane. literally. in the past two weeks, i've had at least FIVE OR SIX episodes, mostly involving road rage, were i've been in fear for my life. and i know that this isn't directly relevant to what were talking about here, but it is indirectly related,as any macro level social problems always, eventually, extend down into micro level social relationships, i.e. my relationship with everybody else on the road. not to mention, the west,where i reside, is literally on fire. some days, it literally looks almost like mars with all the smoke.

so i can agree with you totally, it IS happening...

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