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Voting Machine Unrigging - HAVA & Voter Confidence Acts

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posted on Sep, 29 2003 @ 05:40 PM
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Separate to the scandal over Diebold voting machines and their corruptibility, and Diebold principals coming out in support of Bush for 2004 (!?) there is another track for citizens seeking electoral reform through two Bills (second one below).

1. Does anyone know where HAVA and Voter Confidence are at with Congress?

2. Why is there such a headlong rush into touch screen systems anyway? Why not replace the defunct punchcards with machine readable pencil-on-paper, like the rest of civilization uses?

3. Is there going to be any confidence in voting machines from Diebold at all? Why? Simple snowjobs and fancy looking new-fangled machines? A$$holes.

THE VOTER CONFIDENCE AND INCREASED ACCESSIBLITY ACT OF 2003

On May 22, Rep. Rush Holt responded to the growing chorus of concern from election reform specialists and computer security experts about the integrity of future elections by introducing reform legislation, The Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2003 (H.R. 2239). The measure would require all voting machines to produce an actual paper record by 2004 that voters can view to check the accuracy of their votes and that election officials can use to verify votes in the event of a computer malfunction, hacking, or other irregularity. Experts often refer to this paper record as a �voter-verified paper trail.�

�We cannot afford nor can we permit another major assault on the integrity of the American electoral process,� said Rep. Rush Holt. �Imagine it�s Election Day 2004. You enter your local polling place and go to cast your vote on a brand new �touch screen� voting machine. The screen says your vote has been counted. As you exit the voting booth, however, you begin to wonder. How do I know if the machine actually recorded my vote? The fact is, you don�t.�

The Help America Vote Act (HAVA) was an important piece of legislation that took many important steps towards electoral reform. However, in helping states replace notoriously problematic and antiquated machines, HAVA appears to be creating a headlong rush to purchase computer voting systems that suffer different flaws.

Unfortunately, because computer voting machines are not currently required to produce a voter-verified paper trial, any errors and irregularities they cause are difficult or even impossible to discover. A growing host of nationally and internationally-renowned computer scientists consider a voter-verified paper trial to be a critical safeguard for the accuracy, integrity and security of computer-assisted elections.

The Voter Verification Bill seeks to incorporate the voter-verified paper trail by amending HAVA immediately. If passed, funds expended under HAVA will be utilized in a manner that ensures that this minimum standard of protection will be built into computer voting systems now, without the necessity of replacing or upgrading such voting systems later. Key provisions of the bill include:

Requires all voting systems to produce a voter-verified paper record for use in manual audits. For those using the increasingly popular ATM-like �DRE� machines, this requirement means the DRE would print a receipt that each voter would verify as accurate and deposit into a lockbox for later use in a recount. States would have until November 2003 to request additional funds to meet this requirement.

Bans the use of undisclosed software and wireless communications devices in voting systems, and limits electronic communication to outgoing reports of vote totals only.

Requires all voting systems to meet these requirements in time for the general election in November 2004. Jurisdictions that feel their new computer systems may not be able to do meet this deadline may use a paper system as an interim measure (at federal expense) in the November 2004 election.

Requires that electronic voting system be provided for persons with disabilities by January 1, 2006 -- one year earlier than currently required by HAVA. Like the voting machines for non-disabled voters, those used by disabled voters must also provide a mechanism for voter-verification, though not necessarily a paper trail. Jurisdictions unable to meet this requirement by the deadline must give disabled voters the option to use the interim paper system with the assistance of an aide of their choosing.

Requires mandatory surprise recounts in .5% of domestic jurisdictions and .5% of overseas jurisdictions.



posted on Sep, 29 2003 @ 06:06 PM
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1. Does anyone know where HAVA and Voter Confidence are at with Congress?



Found this:
mrs-henry.diaryland.com...

Excerpt:
"Rep. Rush Holt today responded to the growing chorus of concern from election reform specialists and computer security experts about the integrity of future elections by introducing reform legislation, The Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2003. The measure would require all voting machines to produce an actual paper record by 2004 that voters can view to check the accuracy of their votes and that election officials can use to verify votes in the event of a computer malfunction, hacking, or other irregularity. Experts often refer to this paper record as a �voter-verified paper trail.�

...Last October, Congress passed the Help America Vote Act (HAVA), groundbreaking election reform legislation that is currently helping states throughout the country replace antiquated and unreliable punch card and butterfly ballot voting systems. HAVA, however, is having an unintended consequence. It is fueling a rush by states and localities to purchase computer-voting systems that suffer from a serious flaw; voters and election officials have no way of knowing whether the computers are counting votes properly."



And this site:

"Voter Confidence and Increased Accessability Act of 2003"
Link:
www.theorator.com...

And

"Bills of the 108th Congress"
Link:
www.theorator.com...



regards
seekerof



posted on Sep, 29 2003 @ 06:17 PM
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2. Why is there such a headlong rush into touch screen systems anyway? Why not replace the defunct punchcards with machine readable pencil-on-paper, like the rest of civilization uses?



As to this question, found this....:

"BLACK BOX VOTING LEGISLATION INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS"
Link:
www.ruminatethis.com...

Excerpt:

"This new electronic voting technology offers speed and ease in calculating ballots...but nothing in the way of verifying accuracy or alleviating fraud."

IMHO...I prefer "a voter-verified paper trail to be a critical safeguard for the accuracy, integrity, and security of computer-assisted elections."

From here:
Link:
www.voteamericavote.com...


The above site might also cover question 3, also.


regards
seekerof


[Edited on 29-9-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Sep, 29 2003 @ 06:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure when it's all unravelled that the headlong rush into Diebold machines has everything to do with the "guarantee" that comes with them, from Bush's crony at Diebold to Bush the 'consumer' himself.



posted on Sep, 30 2003 @ 01:56 PM
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with this voting machine stuff:
Is the worry there will be more votes total (say, add 100 votes for Bush) or changing a vote from one candidate to another?



posted on Sep, 30 2003 @ 04:08 PM
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Bob88

The primary concerns are:

* the software has a back door that is easily hackable or subject to deliberate manipulation
* Diebold's servers have been hacked before
* there is no paper trail (or there wasn't until these Bills came before Congress)
* the history of bizarre events involving the touch machines has already included thousands of votes disappearing, or spuriously crossing from one candidate to another.

I would earnestly suggest anyone with an interest to read up on the voting fraud issue.

If things come to pass without safeguards, you will have no confidence in your vote at all.

There is nothing wrong with pencil on paper systems that are machine readable (no stupid punchcards, no hanging chads) as used throughout the world. The US is unique in furthering the kind of system produced by Diebold, and the whole thing is really needless as well as open to fraudulence.

The main thread on electronic voting fraud is here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 30 2003 @ 04:36 PM
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I agree with MA. The pencil on paper Scantron sheets are used in schools to test kids, used to fill out paperwork in the army, so why the # arent they gonna use them for voting? they arent terribly expensive, alot more reliable than chads, and alot more trustworthy than touch screen.

When i think of all the data that gets lost in computers, the idea of purely electronic elections is scary.

Dunno what kind of votining machines Washington will use next election, but I think Ill email my congresswoman suggesting, even demanding, that we get at least pencil on paper voting machines.



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