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posted on Sep, 2 2002 @ 02:31 AM
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The Dark Gods -
The ET Origins Of The Human Race
by Life Science Fellowship



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They quoted the Song of Moses to distinguish between the Most High and the usurper Jehovah...

The notion that humankind was created by some type of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, according to some researchers, is the actual basis of the creation stories found in the ancient Sumerian records and the later Hebrew scriptures. This idea is set out in detail in the work of Israeli scholar Zecharia Sitchin, who uses the Sumerian records to argue that modern homo sapiens were created by beings from outer space called "Nefilim". He believes that the Nefilim created humans by genetically modifying homo erectus, then mated with them and argued over what to do with them.

In 1989 Zecharia Sitchin's radical hypothesis was taken a major step further with the publication of the book The Gods of Eden, appropriately subtitled: The chilling truth about extraterrestrial infiltration -- and the conspiracy to keep humankind in chains. The author, a Californian lawyer going by the nom de plume "William Bramley" brought together all the major themes found in earlier `ancient astronaut' research and merged them with a unique `conspiracy view of history.' Bramley's thesis, shocking and confronting to nearly all established popular beliefs, is:

Human beings appear to be a slave race breeding on an isolated planet in a small galaxy. As such, the human race was once a source of labor for an extraterrestrial civilization and still remains a possession today. To keep control over its possession and to maintain Earth as something of a prison, that other civilization has bred a never-ending conflict between human beings, has promoted spiritual decay, and has erected on Earth conditions of unremitting physical hardship. This situation has existed for thousands of years and it continues today. (The Gods of Eden)

The idea that human kind is the product of genetic engineering carried out by extraterrestrials from outside our tiny planet challenges both Darwinian evolution and creationism. Have the dogmas of science and religion blinded us to the truth of our origins?

The Christian church proclaims that a supposedly all-knowing, all-powerful `God' created our first parents from `mud', in much the same way as a potter moulds clay. Only when Adam and Eve broke their Creator's rules were they subject to pain, sickness and death. By disobeying this `God', they also condemned their offspring -- all humanity -- to be `sinners'. Christianity derives the unfortunate tale of Adam and Eve from Genesis, the first book of the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament.

If we interpret the Bible literally, regarding it as an infallible historical document, we are introduced to a creator `God' (Jehovah/Yahweh) who, by his own admission, is jealous, wrathful and full of vengeance. The fear of the "Lord" (Jehovah) is constantly stressed throughout the Old Testament. He is expected to reward those who worship him and are not delinquent in their observance of the ritual law, by gratifying their worldly desires for material gains and worldly power. One cannot help but note that this cruel, bloodthirsty, and selfish `God' bears a striking resemblance to the capricious gods of Sumeria.

This all too human `God', according to Genesis, took a walk in the "cool of the day," unaware that his prize humans had spoiled his creation by eating the `forbidden fruit'. After this, having chased the first human couple out of Paradise, he threatens their descendants with his wrath until the day when he drowned the whole world in a flood.

This `God' Jehovah, as the historian Gibbon observed in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, is a "being liable to passion and error, capricious in his favour, implacable in his resentment, meanly jealous of his superstitious worship, and confining his partial providence to a single people and to this transitory life."

Research indicates that the Hebrew Bible, far from being an infallible historical text authored by the Supreme Being, is a heavily revised compilation of at least two entirely separate works. Fused together in the Book of Genesis are two separate works known to scholars as the northern "E" and southern "J" traditions, which are supplemented by additional revisions and inserts. In "E" (the Elohist passages) resides the pre-Judaean tradition of the northern peoples who exalted the Most High God El and the subordinate Elohim (Shining Ones). The "J" or "Jehovist" passages describe a totally alien entity, the evil and contending Jehovah (YHWH), the "Lord". According to Max J. Dimont in Jews, God and History: "In the 5th century B.C. Jewish priests combined portions of the `J' and `E' documents, adding a little handiwork of their own (known as the pious fraud), which are referred to as the `JE' documents, since God in these passages is referred to as `Jehovah Elohim' (translated as `Lord God')."

This is why within the Bible we encounter contradictory and conflicting images of the Supreme God. We find Jehovah, a tribal god, masquerading as the Supreme Being. The first chapters of Genesis describe an awesome struggle between two rival powers. There is the Most High God and His Elohim who create through their own manifest spirit; and the malevolent Lord God, Jehovah, who created a synthetic being composed of dirt. Jehovah is actually Satanael, a Shining One who rose in revolt against the Supreme God. Though later called the One God, the early Hebrews knew Jehovah as only one of many Elohim. They quoted the Song of Moses to distinguish between the Most High and the usurper Jehovah:

When the Most High (El) gave the nations their heritage, When He divided mankind, He fixed the territories of the peoples According to the number of the sons of God; But Jehovah's (YHWH) share was his people, Jacob was his inherited possession. (Deuteronomy 32:8)

The Gnostic Christians of the early centuries AD, who preserved the original teachings of Jesus, distinguished between the Heavenly Father and the god of the Hebrew Bible. Jehovah (YHWH) was not the Father revealed by Jesus. While the Hebrew Bible revealed a tribal god, the God of Jesus was the universal Supreme Being of all humanity. The Hebrew god was a god of fear, Jesus' Heavenly Father was a God of love. In fact, Jesus never referred to the Heavenly Father as Jehovah. The Gnostic Gospel of Peter states that the Hebrews were under the delusion that they knew the Supreme Being, but they were ignorant of him, and knew only a false god, an impostor, whose true nature was unknown to them.

The Gnostics, based on their thorough study of the Book of Genesis, exposed Jehovah as Satanael the Demiurge, the creative power of this fallen material world, who is hostile to the Supreme Being. One Gnostic teacher told how the unknown Father made the angels, the archangels, powers and dominions. The world, however, and everything in it, was made by seven particular angels, and man too is a work of the angels. These angels he described as rebellious feeble artisans.

Saturninus (90-150), who established an important Gnostic community in Syria, taught that the One True God, the Heavenly Father revealed by Jesus, dwells in the highest Realm of Light. Between this transcendent Realm of Light and our finite world exist vast intermediate hierarchies of archangels, angels and spiritual powers; the builders of the universe and the fashioners of man. In foolishness and vanity Satanael rebelled against the Realm of Light, leading astray a company of angelic beings. Satanael and his minions contrived to trap spiritual beings in physical bodies. Saturninus told how Satanael's creator angels endeavoured to create physical human bodies in the image of spiritual beings. This way they planned to keep spiritual beings permanently attached to physical bodies.

In Saturninus' account of creation, Satanael's creator angels could only form a primitive android. It was necessary to animate it with a spirit being from the upper realms. Satanael therefore lured down into his soulless universe a light-spark from the heavenly realms and trapped it within the material body of Adam. According to Apelles, another early Gnostic teacher, spirit beings were enticed from their place in the heavenly realms by the opportunity of physical experience, through the machinations of Jehovah, after which he bound them in bodies of flesh. Generation succeeded generation, as the light-sparks took embodiment in human forms. Soon these spiritual beings became so engrossed in the material world that they lost all awareness of their origin in the Realm of Light. They found themselves captured in the world of the Demiurge Satanael. Indeed, they became slaves to the malevolent creator angels and the things of their world.

The Catholic Church, by accepting the Hebrew Bible in its literal interpretation, mistook the tribal god Jehovah for the Supreme Being. In imitation of old Israel, the Church set about establishing a political and religious empire. Only the Gnostic Christians stood in their way. The Gnostics quickly found themselves viciously denounced as heretics, their sacred books banned and burnt. Thanks to the miraculous discovery of several Gnostic scriptures at Nag Hammadi in Egypt, just fifty years ago, we can gain a better insight into the Gnostic Christian communities of the early centuries AD.

A Gnostic work uncovered at Nag Hammadi called The Apocalypse of Adam, is an enlightening account of the creation of Adam and Eve. This book, dating from the first century, may be an attempt to reconstruct the original Genesis. Adam is said to declare:

When god had created me out of the earth along with Eve your mother, I went about with her in a glory which she had seen in the aeon from which we had come forth [Realm of Light]. She taught me a word of knowledge of the eternal God. And we resembled the great eternal angels, for we were higher than the god who had created us and the powers with him, whom we did not know.

Then god [the Demiurge/Satanael], the ruler of the aeons and the powers, divided us in wrath. Then we became two aeons. And the glory in our heart(s) left us�.After those days the eternal knowledge of the God of Truth [Heavenly Father] withdrew from me and your mother Eve. Since this time we learned about dead things, like men. Then we recognised the god [Demiurge] who had created us. For we were not strangers to his powers. And we served him in fear and slavery.

The Gnostics understood that there are many different orders of beings. Their writings refer to numerous hierarchies of spiritual entities, both of the Light and of the Darkness. These beings not only move in the subtle frequencies, but can also take form in the physical dimension. Like the Essenes and Jesus, the Gnostics recognised the ability of "angels" to embody themselves in the flesh. The fallen angels were most often termed rulers or Archons, and the chief Archon known by various names such as Satanael, Jehovah, Ildabaoth, Sacklas, Satan, Sammael, etc. They possessed the power to create bodies and believed themselves to be `gods'. As a consequence of their degraded state, they are hostile to humanity and attempt to prevent mankind from attaining to spiritual liberation.

John A. Keel, author of Disneyland of the Gods, and Our Haunted Planet, argues that the late 20th century interest in extraterrestrials, aliens and UFOs is just a modern day attempt to come to terms with the same forces other peoples and cultures once identified as "demons" or "fallen angels":

The flying saucers are merely another frame of reference to provide us with acceptable explanations for some of these grotesque events. An invisible phenomenon is always stalking us and manipulating our beliefs. We see only what it chooses to let us see, and we usually react.

The notion that the human body is the work of malevolent creator angels remarkably parallels the idea that extraterrestrials engaged in genetic engineering to `create' homo sapiens. Are we dealing with exactly the same phenomenon? Did the Gnostics know the truth about Man's real origin and the unseen powers that seek to keep human beings in bondage? Are the malevolent creator angels who, say the Gnostics, stole spiritual beings and trapped them in physical bodies, the same as the extraterrestrial creator gods of Sumeria? Consider the following observation of a modern Gnostic scholar, Dr. Stephen Hoeller:

The star-angels and other ruling spirits appear as tyrannical, limiting agencies in this Gnostic view. They are usurpers who lord it over humanity and creation in order to enhance their own self-importance and glory. It is incumbent upon the knower to realize this and to extricate himself from the grasp of these powers whenever possible. The existential predicament of human life lies in the uncomfortable dominance to which these lesser godlings subject the spirits of human beings, and from which only the experiential realization of Gnosis can extricate them. (Jung and the Lost Gospels)

The creator angels or Archons are also characterised as terrible powers or forces of negativity and illusion. They are cosmic Prison Warders seeking to keep their human charges bound to the Earth. Caught up in the illusions of material existence, Man believes he is just a body and he cannot grasp the truth of his origin. This condition perpetuates spiritual blindness, leaving human kind in captivity to the Prison Warders.

However, the Gnostics never ceased from proclaiming that Man's True Being is not his body, and the material world is definitely not his true home. Man is a spiritual being and his purpose is to realise his higher Self, that light-spark exiled in the physical body. His destiny is to return to the Realm of Light, his true home beyond the stars.

We must be reawakened to our origin, where we came from, how we became trapped on this planet, and how we can achieve liberation. The Gnostics urge us to escape from the trap of the world and open our eyes to our true origin.

� 1997 by Life Science Fellowship



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 01:31 AM
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Anyone have any conclutions about this paper? Any thoughts?



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 02:06 AM
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Work of satan.

The truth of god has already been revealed through his son.

Tons of millions of miraales have happened in his sons church, tons of miracles
have happened proclaiming that jesuss was and is the lord.

Those who cannot believe do not want to believe.

more signs of course will be given because of
his mercy.


peace.



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 03:41 AM
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what the heck's a "miraales" truth?!?!?!
do the universe a favour and go to school before showing your idiotic face here again.

[Edited on 3-9-2002 by Thomas Crowne]



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 10:33 AM
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It's an interesting take on the subject, Eye. It's not that startling to me, because I have read some of the source material of the Gnostic Christians as well as most of the popular Christian material (including the Bible.)

In fact, I think I'd tend to "slightly agree" - a position I think most of the non-Christians here might agree with.



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 02:07 PM
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Thanks for staying on topic. It is so funny how people can loose the point so easy.

To me, that passage explains many of the confusing areas of the bible.

From it, you can draw a conclution that the Jehova Whitness are in fact, Satanists.

Any thoughts? ON TOPIC!



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 04:22 PM
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Actually, if you go along with the gnostic view, then you'd have to come to the conclusion that the "evangelical" (they prefer the term over "fundamentalist") Christians are worshipping a deity of evil. In fact, the three major religions derived from the Laws of Moses (Islam, Judaism, Christianity) may all be worshipping deities of evil.

Or certain sects of them may have been led astray by this evil divinity, leaving other sects to worship the correct form of the creator.

However, in the materials I've read, the creator of the universe was Wisdom (Sophia) and is female. I think the Wiccans might go along with that one (joke!)



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 04:39 PM
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It does seem that people have been lead astry from the real almighty. But that really isnt too hard to see, now that this pedaphile ring has been exposed in the Catholic church. Not to single the Catholics out, Im sure more corruption will be exposed in other faiths.

The really bad thing about religious believes is that it has a very bad habbit of putting "Binders" on peoples eyes. It tells them to only believe this, or that, and to ignore everything else.

Can anyone really tell me that they were witness to the creation of the bible, or Quran?

People say they belive in the "right" book, but can it be right, when it leads so many to war and death?



posted on Sep, 3 2002 @ 09:02 PM
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The abuse of laity by clergy has been going on for a long time. What the Catholic scandal does is that it tends to focus the attention on the sins of the Catholic church.

What is UNDER-reported, however, is the abuse in the Protestant churches ... and, indeed, all heterosexual abuse. There've been a number of reports on this recently (heard one on National Public Radio), and it's a classic scenario of power of authority over the powerless. Most women who report this abuse are not believed and are frequently cast out of the church as troublemakers or get smitten with the old "It's YOUR fault! YOU tempted the poor man!!!" label. Protestant ministers tend to leave town and leave the scandal (priests are assigned churches, so they can't just suddenly show up elsewhere).

As to Gnosticism, I started to say that it had some strong parallels to the Eastern religions and then thought better of it. I think it would be fairer to say that Christianity/Judaism/Islam has less in common with other world religions than Gnosticism does. I tried to think of another religion that postulated that all creation is evil and humanity is the most evil thing on the face of the planet and ll humanity is doomed to hell unless redeemed (by various methods)... and I couldn't come up with any other religions that believe this.

Zoroastrianism is the one that comes closest after that.

...if memory serves...



posted on Sep, 4 2002 @ 07:42 PM
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Interesting points, but as far as who the Dark lords were other cultures do have different definitions. Keep in mind I am not denying the existence of same, rather in relation to interpretation (how these individuals are defined) as to an origin does seem to vary. Specifically I can account for several legends, each one unique (this counting what you have presented ASE). My tendency is not to accept alien life forms as malevolent. Primarily this is due to several factors, amongst them is the location of this planet. We exist (at present) in what is known as one the fringes of the Virgo Supercluster, an object which is presently traveling at 600 miles per second in the direction of the Great Wall (also known as the Phoenix and or Sculptor Supercluster)

Serious religious scholars do not deny the very strong relationship between the teachings of Jesus and Eastern philosophical ways. Gnosticism has in the past been the brunt of serious abuse, and as such its difficult to actually pass judgment or draw conclusions based on what I have been exposed to date. I do have friend who has been trained in the way of the Matrix this defining the secret society, which developed after Alchemy was outlawed by a Pope. Who applied his capacity to communicate with God in the wrong way (another very unique legend). To say the very least All Seeing Eye I am open to discourse.



posted on Sep, 6 2002 @ 04:50 AM
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Who or what is the Life Science Fellowship? They clearly have some wild ideas. Angels didn't create the world. Aeons? Sounds like they played Final Fantasy X too many times. Ha ha. Also, the Nephilim are the demon/human half-breeds, also called the giants. Demons bred with humans back then to taint mankind. Which might be one of the main reasons for the flood.



posted on Sep, 6 2002 @ 07:50 PM
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Here is a link that may, or may not help you answer that.

Life Science Fellowship



posted on Sep, 6 2002 @ 08:50 PM
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Agreed ASE organizations whose intent is to never surrender.

Interestingly enough there are as well the terms Nephalim and Nephelim. Both of which identify (note the difference in relation to the "A" and "E" in regard to the "I" ) what are considered actual angels (as the definition permits). Ancient cultures often reflected such differences by changing a letter, rather that presenting a whole different word.



posted on Sep, 7 2002 @ 07:48 AM
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good post All Seeing Eye

i have also made some gnostic posts, but that was some time ago. last year i believe.

One thing i am sure of, or we are made by aliens, or we are made by the christian evil god jehovah and we must escape his filrty creation called earth.

Even if you read the bible you know that god is a god who likes slaves and pain and is a bastard.



posted on Sep, 9 2002 @ 01:37 PM
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I think the main point in the passage are three.

1. The bible is a historical mess
2. The creator angels are a demonic force
3. Satan has masquraded as the Almighty God of light

Wintermorg, could you be a bit more specific as to your point?

[Edited on 9-9-2002 by All Seeing Eye]



posted on Sep, 9 2002 @ 10:51 PM
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As far as ancient writings one does have to be careful in relation to how one interprets the text. Specifically the political motivations in those societies
as well as the fact, we are reading text which was written by very violent people
in an age which was much different from
ors in regard to what one needed to do to survive.

As a result when reviewing said text one should make a concerted effort to evaluate each word in relation to meaning. Not only in regard to how the meaning of the word could have changed between now and then, but as well how more easily it was to arrange for the masses to respond violently.

ASE 200 years ago if we had put in print what we are talking about now we would all be very dead. This being one example of the above (since we are not dead I will continue).

1. Very often at this site I do refer to an example, this is relation to the matter of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This that the word tree was used primarily in ancient society to describe lineage. As a result the origins of the first chapter of Genesis could have been to dissuade humans from engaging in cannibalism and human sacrifice.

2. The name Moses is not actually mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Its very apparent that the Essenes knew nothing of him. Nonetheless this story
which is in the current KJV of the Bible depicts slavery from a perspective. This despite the fact that this term in the language of the age reflected is what we call today a tradesman (carpenter, bricklayer et...)

3. Very little effort has been made to address the issues related to the response to the events at Babel, by those who commissioned the famed tower's construction. To say the very least those individuals considered themselves Gods as well. My understanding is that there response was in kind to what Satan said to God when he was ordered into hell (war in heaven). There are cultures who claim we are in heaven (for example the Buddhist) as a result it may be possible to conclude that the alleged war in heaven was a war that occurred on Earth.



posted on Sep, 10 2002 @ 10:39 AM
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*IS* there an actual "tower of Babel"? As far as I know, the answer is "no." Theyv'e found some zuggurats, but no tower, and the archaeological evidence (writing and so forth) doesn't indicate that languages all emerged at the same time (that we all spoke one language and then suddenly spoke ... gosh... if you believe the bible, then it would be thousands of dialects at once.

There seems to be some evidence of a mother language, but the oldest languages predate the Bible and the Hebrews by quite awhile.



posted on Sep, 10 2002 @ 09:47 PM
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As far as I know the claim that all differences in language was derived from this event. It should probably be taken in relation to what. Those who lived in these days and in the area in question accepted as the world. Nontheless there multiple reports beyond the KVJ Text that the story indicated did occur.
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History
There are historical evidences that lend support to the Genesis record regarding the origin of languages. There are several ancient traditions concerning this incident.

Abydenus (a Greek historian of the mid-fourth century B.C.), as quoted by Eusebius, spoke of a great tower at Babylon which was destroyed. The record notes:


�. . . until this time all men had used the same speech, but now there was sent upon them a confusion of many and divers tongues� (quoted by Rawlinson, 1873, p. 28). In a grossly garbled account, but one which obviously has roots in some ancient event, Plato in one of his works, tells of a golden age when men spoke the same language, but an act of the gods caused them to be confounded in their speech (see M�Clintock & Strong, 1895, p. 590).

Josephus, the Jewish historian, quoting from an ancient source, records these words:

�When all men were of one language, some of them built a tower, as if they would thereby ascend up to heaven, but the gods sent storms of wind and overthrew the tower, and gave every one his peculiar language; and for this reason it was that the city was called Babylon� (Antiquities 1.4.3).

Aside from such references, the details of Genesis 11 are strikingly precise from an historical perspective. Consider the following:


The identification of Babylon with Shinar was apparently known in the earliest of times (cf. Gen. 10:10; Dan. 1:2).

The allusion to a �tower� in Babylon is certainly consistent with the fact that such towers, called ziggurats, were common in that ancient locale. These towers consisted of several platforms, constructed one on top of the other, progressively smaller in size till a pinnacle was reached which accommodated a small temple dedicated to some particular deity.

The reference to �brick� and �bitumen� (�slime� KJV) has a genuine touch of authenticity. The region of Babylon did not contain the common building stone that was characteristic of Palestine. Some of the fired bricks from that area were usable for centuries. There is no reason whatever, aside from anti-religious bigotry, to question the historicity of the Genesis account of the Tower of Babel.
Donald J. Wiseman, Professor of Assyriology at the University of London, has confidently stated that the record in Genesis 11 �...bears all the marks of a reliable historical account...� (1980, p. 157). Even a liberal writer concedes that �...the background that is here sketched proves to be authentic beyond all expectations� (Speiser, 1964, p. 75).


Archaeology
The precise site of the ancient Tower of Babel is a matter of uncertainty for there are remnants of several ruins in the region that are possibilities. Many writers, following Jewish and Arab traditions locate the Tower ruins at Borsippa (the �Tongue Tower�), about 11 miles southwest of the northern portion of Babylon (formerly a suburb of the city). Others identify the site with Etemen-an-ki (�the temple of the foundation of heaven and earth�), which is located in the southern sector of the city near the right bank of the Euphrates river. One or the other of these ruins may represent the archaeological �descendant� of the original Tower of Babel.

In his book, Chaldean Account of Genesis (1880), George Smith of the British Museum � the scholar who translated the Babylonian Flood account � published a fragment which is certainly reminiscent of the Mosaic record. The inscription tells of an ancient ziggurat.


�The building of this temple offended the gods. In a night they threw down what had been built. They scattered them abroad, and made strange their speech. The progress they impeded� (Caiger, 1944, p. 29).

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[Edited on 11-9-2002 by Toltec]



posted on Sep, 11 2002 @ 09:43 AM
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all the religious nuts out there can call me a freak, but i see some truth in that article.. weird, because lately i have been thinking that a lot lately...don't know why, but i just have.. because i see all the technology around us and how we are developing technology to make robots for us.. like in A.I. (i saw a news program about it) and how they want these robots to be able to do a lot of things for us and look good to the eye, not scarey looking...they also said it could end up that they could be smarter than humans.. well, that freaked me out.. and it should scare everyone.. that means that in time, we could become the lower species, if you will... it got me thinking that while i believe there to be life on other planets (i don't think earth is the only inhabited planet in all of space) that some other life on some other planet actually made us.. just as we will make robots...sort of a technological evolution of the species... are you with me here? and, last year when i read "The Celestine Prophecy" (excellent read) that got me thinking about higher energy levels, etc... so, if you have read that, then this article will make some sense... i guess it couldn't discount the bible or everything else because it was what was percieved at the time,but we don't REALLY know what happened in the very beginning...and, i guess darwin's theory could hold water as well if we evolved after the "aliens" put us here in the beginning.. if that did happened.. so, who knows.. everyone could win... but, i think life is about getting to a higher place within yourself spiritually without outside influence.. and that is what is wrong with this world.. too many of us are brainwashed by what has been taught...
just my 2 cents...



posted on Sep, 12 2002 @ 06:45 PM
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Hey Pandora have you ever considered that at some point in time as our technology progresses. Human nervous systems can be removed from bodies and installed in AI type robots, just a thought




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