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Pro_Life Violence

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posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:37 PM
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Ok, you have the anti-abortion march which Bush supported by calling in, but where is a pro-choice parade? Or would that be to dangerous due to the nutcase pro-lifers who blow up entire hospitals to take out one room?

How many ministers have been assassinated? How many churches have been blown up by pro-choice people? How come the pro-life people don't mind killing full grown people but find a sack of cells being removed murder and wrong? I don't get it, if they were so pro-life they wouldn't blow up a childrens hospital to get rid of that one room where abortions are done. Or the ones who say stem cell research is evil, but have no problem with the fetuses being thrown out like garbage? Say a women is a muderer if she gets something the size of this . removed, but they are a-ok if they sniper the woman while she is going in?

So, lets see, pro-life do a drive by on a nurses house killing all inside because she happens to work at a hospital that does abortion. Pro-life people blow up hospital, after shooting three doctors. Pro-Life people shoota woman going into hospital to get a gynocologist check up but the gyno is in a hospital that has a room where abortions are done. Pro-Choice people hide in fear of the pro-life nutters who are hell bent on killing anyone who doesn't share the same belief in killing people but not remving a zombie parasite.

Another thing, pro-choice is not pro-abortion, it is pro-choice! Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:41 PM
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heck, the pro-lifers also tend to be the ones that support the death penalty, even its extension. And they also tend to not support state welfare or rehabilitation programs. So they act like they are concerned about people, but once that person's born, they loose all concern. They talk about life, but do nothing to actually protect it.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 01:53 AM
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heck, the pro-lifers also tend to be the ones that support the death penalty
even its extension.

You find it ok to murder a unborn innocent child but support letting pedofiles, serial killers and other assorted trash live. Why not give them play stations and cable tv as well. Oh that's right you have. Wonder how their victims are. Who cares as long as those lawyers keep these guys locked up and alive they get a paycheck from the state. Nice that the victims have to pay for that.


And they also tend to not support state welfare

They have been real effective. Welfare for generations, fatherless families. Nice little socialist experiment. So after 40 years of food stamps and welfare we now have 2nd and 3rd generation recipients that have no idea how to work or handle finances.

rehabilitation programs
3-100 junkies get clean. most go right back to their favorite junk as soon as they leave rehab. I have known too many junkies to know that they're just jackasses and once hooked are useless, except cheap consumer goods they shoplift . I like crackheads at christmas some are real artists when shoplifting and really know what is hot for the season.

So they act like they are concerned about people, but once that person's born, they loose all concern. They talk about life, but do nothing to actually protect it.

Producing a welfare state and housing killers so you socialists and lawyers can make a living off their missary is twisted. You think they're better off but in reality it is you that needs to keep them trapped so you don't become them.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 02:03 AM
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I don't know what could be more violent than the premeditated murder of 1,370,000 children per year in the United States alone.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 02:05 AM
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you've never been to jail, its not even close to like that. if you would trade being raped to play a video game then you are just plain #ing dumb.

I am pro-choice and anti death penalty. killing a person is the wrongest thing you can do. Bringing a child into the world that you know in your heart that you cannot care for is one of the wrongest things you can do also.

hehe on a side note i lived in arizona recently and it IS a right to life state but NOT a right to work state. Think about that, really think about it.

[edit on 16-2-2005 by jprophet420]



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 02:10 AM
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So it's OK to kill innocent babies who have committed no crime but it's immoral to execute murderers duly convicted of breaking the most important and sacred laws of God and man ... ooookkkkkaaaayyyy...



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
So it's OK to kill innocent babies who have committed no crime but it's immoral to execute murderers duly convicted of breaking the most important and sacred laws of God and man ... ooookkkkkaaaayyyy...


yup. becasue over 200 cases of wrongfull execution have been proven in the usa, and thats not counting any witch burnings. since my wife is a witch, i feel pretty strongly about it. its not nearly anywhere close to ok to kill 'innocent babies', however i still feel that its WORSE to bring a child into this world that cannot supported.

especially in rape cases and statatory rape cases. If your wife was raped and impregnated you would want the baby?

if your daughter was taken advantage of with drugs and alchohol and had a baby to the frat boy that date raped her, you would want her to keep it?



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 02:37 AM
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Yeah don't the anti-abortion folks realize that sometimes it's better to not be born?
If the anti-abortionists have their way then they should be held responsible for every un-aborted kids life until they can fend for themselves...



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 04:19 AM
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I just dont understand how pro-lifers think "something" is being killed.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by thehamsamiam
heck, the pro-lifers also tend to be the ones that support the death penalty
even its extension.

You find it ok to murder a unborn innocent child but support letting pedofiles, serial killers and other assorted trash live.

In case you didn't know, being 'trash' doesn't result in the death penalty.


Why not give them play stations and cable tv as well. Oh that's right you have.
I have done nothing of the sort uneducated twit.


Wonder how their victims are. Who cares as long as those lawyers keep these guys locked up and alive they get a paycheck from the state.

vent your bile elsewhere. this is a place for discussion.


djohnsto77
I don't know what could be more violent than the premeditated murder of 1,370,000 children per year in the United States alone.

If a parent doesn't take care of themself properly and has a miscarriage, are they guilty of some form of homocide?

djohnsto77
So it's OK to kill innocent babies

Babies? WHo's talking about killing babies? These are fetuses.


anok
If the anti-abortionists have their way then they should be held responsible for every un-aborted kids life until they can fend for themselves...

But ya notice how the anti-abortion movement never offers that? They don't vote to increase welfare and the like, so these kids who's parent don't want them grow up in these depraved and poor cultures, and of course they turn to crime and abuse. Then those same anti-abortion people rave at 'harsher' penalties for crimes and complain that 'prison is fun'. If the anti-abortion people won't take care of these kids, why shoudl anyone else have to?



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 02:45 PM
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Hell, prison kicks ass, free cable, free food, free housing, gym equipment worth thousands of dollars, PS2/Xbox/Game Cube, big screen tv, hell, they get more then I do and they don't have to spend a penny.

Also, how is it killing babies? Last I cherck they were a mass of cells until a certain month in the second trimester, while abortion is done in the firt part of the first trimester. They don't go "well, it is suppose to be born 3 days from now, lets abort it!" No, it more like this "So you have been pregnant for 3 days, but your husband lost his job and you have no means of raising it, and while could put it up for adoption, there are already hundreds of thousands in homes waiting to be adopted, well, if this is your CHOICE, we will set an appointment." Also, you can't get knocked up, go in, abort, knocked up, abort, so forth for they will make you sit down with a shrink to make sure you are capable of making any decision like this.

Unlike pro-lifers, who have no problem shooting a house up killing everyone inside because the woman once had an abortion 5 years ago when she was raped, no matter her 3 kids she had with her loving husband, they all dead now.

Still haven't found anything on google about pro-choice people going out and burning a church down, shooting priests(over abortion,people shoot them for raping thier 8 year old boy yes, but not over abortion) or anything like that. Never seen any riots/violent protests done outside of a church by pro-choice people, but pro-lifers have burned buildings down, beaten the woman going inside causing a misacarrige, and beaten nurses/doctors, during thier protests.

Also, I do support death penalty, for 100% cases. I don't forensics tht say he could have done it, but video/audio proof of the murderer doing it. Not "Well, we found fingerprints here, and his dna, so he probably did it." But a video in a convinence store showing the person shooting and killing two clerks and a customer while robbing the place, things you can be 100% over. Unlike Bush who killed more people in Texas then any other person. Not to mention all those people found innocent after sitting on death row for years. Hell, Bush wanted to kill people who had the IQ of a rock and didn't know what they were doing.

Edited. Well, who cares once they are born? We have a to wait a few years for them to be old enough to give thier money to us. Until then we don't care, unless thier parents are gonna give us money. Oh sure we made the mother have the kid, which she then killed cause like she told us before, she couldn't take care of it, she didn't even know who the rapist was, but hey, she had it because we wold her we would kill her if she didn't

[edit on 16-2-2005 by James the Lesser]



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 03:04 PM
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murder." (Exodus 20:13). That goes for pro-choice or pro-life. Why is this hard to understand?

[edit on 16-2-2005 by saint4God]



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 03:24 PM
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James the lesser you obviously haven't been to prison



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 05:24 PM
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Maimum security is where its at. You never seen one of them, have you? Maximum security kick ass. Unlike regular prison the prisnoners know not to # around. Maximum Security have lower death rate.crime rate the any others. Hell, half the time the doors on the cells aren't even locked for the prisoners know they can't escape, and hell, why would you want to? Now other prisons, well, not going to talk about them.

Also, they aren't killing anything with abortions, it is like removing pond scum, just a mass of cells. Only way a fetus in the first trimester is life is if you consider sperm life. If you do consider sperm life you need to pull your head out of the bible and get this, look at science/facts instead of mythical mumbo jumbo written 1800 years ago by men who wanted to control the masses through fear and ignorance.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 05:37 PM
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using the bible to prove people shouldn't kill each other is a pretty weak argument considering millions of people have killed each other over that book. You shall not kill, and I will kill you if you don't believe this!!!



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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Hell, prison kicks , free cable, free food, free housing, gym equipment worth thousands of dollars, PS2/Xbox/Game Cube, big screen tv, hell, they get more then I do and they don't have to spend a penny.

im getting pretty sick of you saying this # dude (multiple threads). you are misrepresenting to the extreme. its not even close to, like that. Call up Whitey thompson (one of the more famous prisoners @ alcatraz) and ask him if maximum security prison is like that. I know from personal experience that non-maximum security is not like that. all things in prison other than food, clothes, shelter, & medical are a privilage, not a right, including visitation and things as simple as mail. jail is hell and you are on the internet so you are doing better than ANYONE in prison.



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 05:54 PM
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My beliefs always screw with people, I am not for abortion, but I am for the death penalty....big time! A child is innocent and did not ask to be created....a person on death row committed an offense worthy of death....


Odd

posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 06:01 PM
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I agree with LadyV.

Whoever said a fetus is no more than pond scum... you make me sick.

And to all you pro-baby-killing folk... may your wives be barren and your next dozen incarnations be slain in the womb. I wholeheartedly and sincerely curse every one of you



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 06:02 PM
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Not always ladyV, how many were proven to be innocent?

Uh, why should they be barren? Because we think that hey, if you are raped, or not able to take care of a kid get it aborted before it becomes more then a parasitic zombie. People who are pro-choice have kids all the time, because they are pro-choice, means they think people have a choice, unlike religon that tells you this is how it is and if you don't think so we kill you.

[edit on 16-2-2005 by James the Lesser]



posted on Feb, 16 2005 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
Not always ladyV, how many were proven to be innocent?


Not all that many!


And to all you pro-baby-killing folk... may your wives be barren and your next dozen incarnations be slain in the womb. I wholeheartedly and sincerely curse every one of you

That's not nice and makes you little better....I feel a certain way, but it doesn't mean everyone has to feel the same way I do....it takes too much energy to be so hateful....and will turn around and bite you in the a$$ one day!



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