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Obamacare Victims Are “Liars” Says Top Democrat

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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 01:41 PM
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Reid had to pull back I guess:


After an eruption on Twitter and other social media, Reid returned to the floor to amend his statement: “I can’t say that every one of the Koch brothers’ ads are a lie, but I’ll say this: Mr. President, the vast, vast majority of them are.”


But when checked:

But only one of the Obamacare ads vetted by the Fact Checker or PolitiFact achieved such ratings, though all had various problems and statements that went too far. Meanwhile, our colleague Greg Sargent has noted that two recent AFP ads, released after controversial Boonstra ad, appeared to go out of their way not to make statements that could be called into question.
The Fact Checker

Seems everybody is playing a game of vagueness sprinkled with hyperbole. Basic political garbage.

Reids problem is that his first statement was definitive. The biggest mistake any politician can make is to say "x is y". Never take a firm position on anything and never ever make any definitive statements about anything. Always speak as though you being interrogated for a crime you actually committed.




posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:03 PM
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Sounds like ol Harry used the old trick of "saying it" to get the point instilled in the minds of the believers and then recanting.

Looks like the jokes on him though.

He is the liar.

[ as the Koch Brothers snicker in the background ]




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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:25 PM
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Harry Reid wouldnt know the truth if it kicked in him in his mangina.

Dude is either suffering from age related dementia or has been hiding his sociopathy for a very long time.

He needs to simply go away and not come back.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 07:00 PM
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A vast majority of maybe one? Maybe three?

Okay I guess he gets a pass on this one.

lol



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 07:23 PM
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I feel this is true of about 99% of our current congress critters.

But what can you expect from professional (corporately owned) politicians?



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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oh Harry Reid....yah that'll change my mind...lol that is too funny. Harry and his fellow DSA members would say pretty much anything to defend their socialist healthcare plan.
but consider what a judge recently showed about aspects of Obamacare law... that all doctors will be paid the same regardless of their expertise or area of concentration, and the govt will have access to your bank account and will be able to take money out of it at will.
Does anybody really accept that as a good thing? If so, why?



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:06 PM
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but consider what a judge recently showed about aspects of Obamacare law... that all doctors will be paid the same regardless of their expertise or area of concentration, and the govt will have access to your bank account and will be able to take money out of it at will.
Does anybody really accept that as a good thing? If so, why?

I would be very interested in seeing a link for this information! Thanks in advance.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:19 PM
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This is so much BS....

So, if Obamacare is so great then why isn't Congress using it? Why are they exempt?

I guess I am a liar also. Our (the wife's and my) insurance rates have doubled. Thanks "Affordable Care Act".

Now my wife is covered in case she gets pregnant. Problem is, she doesn't have the hardware and she is over 50. Not gonna tell ya my age lol.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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Hardly anyone even rudimentary look into OPs anymore. I was over at my families, and this subject was being complained about on FOX which I think many here have heard about it and are now commenting on it without even knowing what was said.

ATS is now parroting FOX news. Not really surprised after reading the thread on infiltration.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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dont miss the fact that he came out and said they are liars...will this start more coming out and saying..that obamacare critics and stories are liars? others will then jump on that band wagon..devoid of facts and just scream LIAR!!! blah blah blah..ii aam nooot liistening tooo yooou...this is what politics has become.....time to throw out the bath water and get a new tub...



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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I think its time for Mr. Reid to step down. Or be removed. He is CLEARLY oblivious to reality.

I think its time we as American's are allowed to impose term limits on our politicians. Maybe.. just maybe they will become a little less corrupt if they've only got a max of 8 years in term.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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clearmind
dont miss the fact that he came out and said they are liars...will this start more coming out and saying..that obamacare critics and stories are liars? others will then jump on that band wagon..devoid of facts and just scream LIAR!!! blah blah blah..ii aam nooot liistening tooo yooou...this is what politics has become.....time to throw out the bath water and get a new tub...


No mystery...Obama has been caught outright lying about it so they absolutely must divert attention.

I predict that by 2016 elections there are going to be a whole lotta pissed off people.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 11:07 PM
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It was a simple demonstrable fact that catastrophic plans for young people on esurance.com doubled and tripped from 2013 to 2014. In my state, it's such an abortion that they somehow managed to make the catastrophic policies more expensive than the bronze.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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It was in an article in my facebook newsfeed. I went looking for it and couldn't find it....it was definitely there though. If I find it again I will post.

As it turns out...Snopes seems to think the judge's letter was based on an earlier unpassed bill, but I did find this other article about Medicaid and found it kind of scary


hotair.com...

Let me put it this way....Obamacare is full of awful stuff designed to control us and bankrupt us and I think it is downright evil.
From a Statist point of view, socialized medicine takes the premise that government knows what is best for us and that we must all pay the price for the common good. Michelle Obama said it loud and clear when she said that we all must give up some of our pie so others can have more. That is a Marxist based philosophy, wealth redistribution for the common good. But Obamacare is so convoluted and the truth is that socialized anything ends up being bad for everyone, but the proponents like to claim that it is all the fault of greedy capitalist pigs. Somehow Congress got exempted from all this common good they voted on but did not read....and Congress knew that it would not apply to them. In other words, this socialist crap is for us commoners but not for the elites(and of course the Rothschilds knew that all along).
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posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 01:42 AM
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I wonder if Reid is trying to do damage control on this story... www.theblaze.com... ?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 02:26 AM
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To the people.whining, "Oh, have you watched the video? It's about the Koch brothers." and other such tripe, no, it isn't.

From the article:


"Despite all that good news,” Reid said on the Senate floor Wednesday, “there's plenty of horror stories being told. All of them are untrue, but they're being told all over America.” Reid
specifically referred to an ad from Americans for Prosperity featuring the case of Julie Boonstra, a leukemia patient whose new plan disrupted her ability to budget for medications.


There is more to the story than edited youtube videos. Try reading the article.


Reid blamed the brothers who own Koch
Industries and who are major contributors to AFP.


Of course he did. It's kind of like blaming Bush, but that would be luaghingly embarrassing, wouldn't it?


He dismissed Boonstra and apparently every other horror story as just “stories made up from whole cloth, lies distorted by the Republicans to grab headlines or make political advertisements.


Really?

Others have given their stories, and I started a thread since the first of the year. I am living an insurance nightmare. And I have private insurance, not even in the exchange.

I may have cancer, and the insurance denied my precert for surgery. It was still doable, but that's not the point. The med prices are killing me, the premiums are outrageous, and if I do have cancer, I may not be able to pay for chemo at 26k a treatment!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My story.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 03:48 AM
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Oh great another sociopathical liar who has no love for the people who voted him in. Now he wants to be the surgeon general???? Ah f*ck him he's an @$$hole.



Dear america,

Can you please stop voting in @$$holes into positions of power. These @$$holes can't even handle the responsibility of that power that they have supposedly "earned".


From: Pissed off and cranky canadian who loves his neighbours to the south.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 03:59 AM
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ThirdEyeofHorus
oh Harry Reid....yah that'll change my mind...lol that is too funny. Harry and his fellow DSA members would say pretty much anything to defend their socialist healthcare plan.
but consider what a judge recently showed about aspects of Obamacare law... that all doctors will be paid the same regardless of their expertise or area of concentration, and the govt will have access to your bank account and will be able to take money out of it at will.
Does anybody really accept that as a good thing? If so, why?


*In a whiney but medically stupid trendy progressive voice* Obama and Reid love you very much derp. Dhey jut want access to your bank account pay every wone da dame wage because it twendy and wibwal. Herpa derp. Dhey will destroy da proletariats.
edit on 28-2-2014 by truthofnitrous because: apperently i cant mock the mentally retarded. IT AINT PC!!!!

edit on 28-2-2014 by truthofnitrous because: and apparently i dont know how to spell a commie code word.



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 05:57 AM
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Turned away? Is that legal? I thought the Hippocratic oath compelled them to treat no matter ability to pay. Is that incorrect?



posted on Feb, 28 2014 @ 06:27 AM
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How can anyone take this guy seriously? He forgot to call them out for being racist too!!!!



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