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'...If You're Not BLIND, You Still May Have Non-24-Hour Disease...' : What Ploy Now?

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posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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The headline is not verbatim but it accurately describes the essence of a radio advertisement that has been annoying and irritating to me for over a month now.

After doing some brief research, I am convinced that this is another ploy to promote the legal use of drugs to hypnotize and/or further dumb down the population.

I have only heard this audio "commercial" on a local Chicago-based R&B/Hip-Hop/Rap station. It does not come across as your typical product or health provider advert. wanting to sell you some drug or service. Instead, it sounds more like a Public Service Announcement with a representing organization and toll-free number you can call. Here is the link, and a snippet based on the advertisement itself:

www.non-24.com...


Welcome to Non-24.com, your resource about Non-24-Hour Disorder
Like many people, you may be experiencing sleep challenges you don't understand, nights of sleeplessness, and days when you fight to stay awake.

This may sound like a sleep disorder, but it's actually Non-24-Hour Disorder (Non-24), a circadian rhythm disorder.


The above site gives no specific information about particular drugs/treatments but advises (potential) sufferers to download various documents to take to their physicians (ala the current trend of patient-driven diagnosis, etc.)

What is more bothersome is if you dig a little deeper, you will find that the innocent organization is not only a product of Vanda Pharmaceuticals - who are aligned with Novartis and Eli Lilly - but in the end, they are marketing a product called Tasimelteon. (The name even sounds creepy.
). The drug is pre-market and as far as I can tell, is not yet available.

You might be saying, so what?

In addition, here is information regarding a discrepancy between what the FDA originally approved the drug for, and how Vanda is promoting the drug on its website generally:


FDA NEWS RELEASE

For Immediate Release: Jan. 31, 2014
Media Inquiries: Sandy Walsh, 301-796-4669, sandy.walsh@fda.hhs.gov
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA
FDA approves Hetlioz: first treatment for non-24 hour sleep-wake disorder in blind individuals

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today approved Hetlioz (tasimelteon), a melatonin receptor agonist, to treat non-24- hour sleep-wake disorder (“non-24”) in totally blind individuals. Non-24 is a chronic circadian rhythm (body clock) disorder in the blind that causes problems with the timing of sleep. This is the first FDA approval of a treatment for the disorder.
Non-24 occurs in persons who are completely blind. Light does not enter their eyes and they cannot synchronize their body clock to the 24-hour light-dark cycle.


And...how Vanda fails to mention the blind on their website description


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Circadian Rhythms

Chronobiology
The human Circadian Rhythm is the daily cycle that drives many physiologic activities in our body from digestion to hormone secretions to our ability to sleep.

The timing of human sleep is governed by the length of time since a person last slept and by their master body clock. The master body clock is located in a region of the brain called the suprachiasmatic nucleus (SCN). This master body clock controls the timing of many aspects of physiology, behavior and metabolism that show daily rhythms, including the sleep-wake cycles, body temperature, alertness and performance, metabolic rhythms and certain hormones which exhibit circadian variation. Outputs from the SCN control many endocrine rhythms including those of melatonin secretion by the pineal gland as well as the control of cortisol secretion via effects on the hypothalamus, the pituitary and the adrenal glands.

In most people, circadian rhythms match the 24-hour day by adjusting to environmental cues, the most powerful one being light. When a person's master body clock is misaligned to the 24 hour day-night cycle, it may result in a circadian rhythm disorder.
www.vandapharma.com...


Are you blind? Know someone who is? Have sleeping problems?

Has anyone heard of the "Non-24-Hour Disease"? Are there media campaigns going on in your area for this ailment?

Related links, that IMO, only add to the conspiracy behind this sketchy disease and legal drug:

www.hetlioz.com...

www.mycme.com...









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posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 01:53 PM
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I've read about this before because I've had problems similar to this. It's found most often in blind people since they are unable to see night and day.

Overall, it's just for people when their body clock is out of whack. I went to a sleep specialist recently to get a sleep study done (eval first - study is in a few weeks) and he mentioned this to me as well. It's also associated with night owls.

So basically, if you're a night owl, you may have non-24 issues. It's not a sickness so much as it is just a messed up body clock where you want to sleep in the day, or sleep more soundly in the day, than you do at night and spend all night wide awake and alert. I've had this problem all of my life.

I should add... This is something that's always been around. Specialists are just now digging in to it and giving it a name. Up until now, we were just known as night owls and lazy people

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posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 01:53 PM
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Were any clinical trials done? I find this a really odd thing. The problems of the blind being on their radar at all is surprising to me. Women have been protesting for ages how their research has excluded us, so all the more surprising therefore.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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I find this to be very sketchy as well ,one of the main areas of the brain that can be turned on and off almost like a switch is the pineal gland and many ancients cultures attribute the pineal gland as the god particle ,that part of your brain is responsible not only for making you yawn and is what sends the messages to the rest of your body for sleeping and waking ,but it also plays a huge role in the part of the brain that sees with the inner eye ,it is responsible for hallucinations when taking hallucinogenic drugs and there is a liquid that creates itself called dmt its like it is a naturally occurring hallucinagine that is responsible for your dreams ,many guru masters say that if u eat to much processed foods salts and sugars the pineal glands liquid can calcify and turn hard and wont work anymore ,so what are they trying to do here it does sound very much to me like some kind of drug that would suppress creative thought and or enlighnment of any kind and perhaps it's damaging the pineal gland when taken ,they say blind people have extra heightened senses so what if they see things we don't and "they" are trying to stop them from "seeing" what we cannot .



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 02:43 PM
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I just think everyone should take it. Even if you don't have any symptoms that are described.

As so many members here at ATS have documented and proven....the big pharma companies and doctors offices and US Government only want to help us and only care about our health and well being.

I hope they make this mandatory for new born's just like the HepB shot. Because we all know that new born babies are having sex with drug using smack addicts so they are probably also restless sleepers.

Great post....!!! S&F

Lets get legislation going now!!!!



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:16 PM
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I had never thought about how being blind may affect a person's circadian rhythm...very interesting.

However, if you are not blind, there is a much easier way than taking drugs to reset one's body clock: Camping.

How simple is that?

LiveScience Link

BBC Link

Healthier than taking drugs, too.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:25 PM
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I too have had this problem all my life. During the day, I want to sleep. If I can't sleep, I'm a zombie and constantly tired. However, through the night I'm wide awake and ready to party. It makes it difficult when you have a kid, before it wasn't such a problem but getting my kid to school, making dinner etc. means I can't live like that.

And it's a huge problem. I've spoken to my doctor(s) about this but they all say it's due to lack of various vitamins. (I don't recall which.) I've taken a slurry of supplements but to no avail.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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Thanks for your post so much.


At least I do have some confirmation, based on your account, that this strangely named phenomenon does exist.

Based on the drug company website, you just may qualify for disability/accommodations if you reside state-side.

I do hope that your sleep study goes well as far as conclusions. However, I wish for you some sort of natural remedy for the condition.

I used to be more of a night-owl when I was younger but In looking back, I guess that was more of a choice.

Please keep us updated on your condition if you wish.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:33 PM
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You are correct - my thread title is wrong - it should be 'Disorder' rather than 'Disease'...Mods, help?


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posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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Actually, you make a great point and one that kind of helped me create this thread.

I'm a female and a mom of 3 (all under the age of 7; 1 is an infant and just started decent longer nocturnal sleep), and tired most days - so part of me wanted to call that hotline to see what's up! But I am not a good liar, nor do I want to be placed on a list for a drug that seemingly would knock you out for periods of time!

Maybe some other braver ATS member can call them and report back if they see the post


I think they targeted the blind because they can rationalize it initially (kind of like a beta test) for the FDA and then launch it more broadly to the greater population.

Thanks for the input on an important topic for women as far as being largely ignored on many health matters.


As for clinical trials, I would think that would be a necessity for the FDA given its grade, but I'll have to read further and report back.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:54 PM
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DustbowlDebutante
I had never thought about how being blind may affect a person's circadian rhythm...very interesting.

However, if you are not blind, there is a much easier way than taking drugs to reset one's body clock: Camping.

How simple is that?

LiveScience Link

BBC Link

Healthier than taking drugs, too.



How awesome is that alternative?


I especially like this part from your 2nd source:


And while it's not possible for everyone to go camping all the time, the scientists say that some small, simple changes to the way we live our lives could help us attain some of the benefits of sleeping under the stars.

"Start off your day with a walk outside," said Prof Wright.

"At night reduce lights in the house, dim computer and electronic devices. We are sensitive to dim light levels, even the light from cell phones in the evening hours is a cue that pushes our clocks to a later time."


So no more ATS late nights, lolz?



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 04:10 PM
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I don't do late nights on ATS, being that I work on a computer all day at my job. So, I try to stay offline when I'm at home.

Also, the only sleep issue I have is almost opposite of what this disorder sounds like. I used to be able to stay up all nite and sleep all day with the best of them, but once I had a kid, all of that changed. My body clock seemed to adapt to my baby, and then went beyond. These days, I go to bed about eight or nine and then wake up at four in the morning and get my day started. It irks Mr. Dustbowl to no end, because he stays up later than me and feels abandoned when I run off to bed so early. But I can't seem to help it. I go to bed when I get sleepy and I wake up at almost four on the dot every morning - even on the weekends.

Kinda sucks, but I think I'm more productive on this schedule than I was when I was a night owl.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 04:30 PM
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I AM non-24, always have been. I have also known a lot of people like me. My theory is that part of our population are night-owls for a reason. They defended the cave while the early-wormer's slept. I have noticed that night owls tend to also be "protectors."
Once, I had a strange job that caused me to live in isolation for two years. During that time I found that I fell into and was very comfortable with a 30hr cycle with 8 hours of sleep per cycle. It did not have anything to do with the sun cycle even though I was outdoors a lot and mainly in a room with lots of big windows. The sunset melatonin crash only affects me for about 30 minutes. I wonder how many other night-owls are actually 30hr people.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 05:09 PM
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You clearly articulated what I was thinking about as far as background for this thread. That's why I capitalized on the title and tried to hit on certain points.

Other than out of whack sleep rhythms because of "24 hour darkness," why "pretend" to mostly target the blind with this new "medicine"?

Is it simply a matter of grant funding (on the surface) or is something else at hand here?

I would love to interview a blind person to find out what they can feel, hear, smell, and perceive that a non-blind person cannot?

At the very least, rumbles, booms, chemicals, and manipulations come to mind. Applause for you.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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so, to me, this looks like another instance of "them" (be it big pharma, government, what have you) wanting to "medicate" a "condition" that isn't actually a condition....the only "condition" i can see here, is another form the continued conditionING of conformity....the moronic advocacy for groupthink whereby if you don't eat/sleep/think/act like "normal people" (which they define), then there's something wrong with you, and you need a pill to get you in line with what's "normal"..yeah, sounds about right...

i sleep when i'm tired, wake up when i'm done sleeping...as i'm STILL unemployed, and unable to find work(fodder for another thread), this non-pattern pattern works for me... sometimes i'm a day person, sometimes i'm a night person....though i must confess a preference for nights...it's quieter. however, less places are open in the middle of the night...that's really the only drawback, lol
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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 09:52 AM
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all it really is about is that some drug company has a new drug or found a use for another and wants to make bucks off of it.
chances are this company is the only one that produces said drug and want to capitalize on it.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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Daedalus
so, to me, this looks like another instance of "them" (be it big pharma, government, what have you) wanting to "medicate" a "condition" that isn't actually a condition....the only "condition" i can see here, is another form the continued conditionING of conformity....the moronic advocacy for groupthink whereby if you don't eat/sleep/think/act like "normal people" (which they define), then there's something wrong with you, and you need a pill to get you in line with what's "normal"..yeah, sounds about right...

i sleep when i'm tired, wake up when i'm done sleeping...as i'm STILL unemployed, and unable to find work(fodder for another thread), this non-pattern pattern works for me... sometimes i'm a day person, sometimes i'm a night person....though i must confess a preference for nights...it's quieter. however, less places are open in the middle of the night...that's really the only drawback, lol
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To me, you're response is Spot-on!


If you are having trouble finding work, then you might qualify for disability benefits or at least the disability classification to help you find a job (information from their website). But you must conform to their meds, I believe.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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all it really is about is that some drug company has a new drug or found a use for another and wants to make bucks off of it.
chances are this company is the only one that produces said drug and want to capitalize on it.



Why all the maneuvering and manipulation with their marketing then?

Why not just be straight-forward and get on with it?





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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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if they came right out and told you the truth.

hey we got this new drug that costs $150 bucks a month, would you go and buy it from them.
better to fool you into thinking you have symptoms of something, and cut the doctors in than to come out and tell you the truth.



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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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watchesfromwall
To me, you're response is Spot-on!


If you are having trouble finding work, then you might qualify for disability benefits or at least the disability classification to help you find a job (information from their website). But you must conform to their meds, I believe.


but i'm not disabled...there's just nothing available...

anyway, yeah, "they" seem to wanna medicate away individuality, creativity, critical thought...they WANT us to mindlessly consume, and busy ourselves with useless nonsense when we're not working, to earn money, to mindlessly consume the crap they want us to mindlessly consume. they want us all to be dumb, and only think about the things they tell us are important, and eat what they tell us is good, and so on, and so forth....it's really kinda sick...



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