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I am off the opinion putting people in metal cages for an arbitrary length of time is not justice, rather just some form of punishment basicaly because as a society we do not comprehend how to do anything else.
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is this justice?
It's as good as can be expected, so I'm satisfied.
Life without the possibility of parole would be better.
I've got this horrible feeling that we'll soften over time and release them early.
My only problem with it is the relative comfort of their cells during their imprisonment.
Personally I'd like to see them serve their sentence in solitary confinement with just the bare essentials and subsistence level food etc.
We need to recognise that the primary reason for their imprisonment is punishment, any thoughts of rehabilitation in cases like this should be secondary at best.
I struggle with the conflict I have personally over the death sentence.
I think its hypocritical to say killing someone is wrong so because you've killed someone we, as in society, are going to kill you.
But I know that if someone had done anything remotely like the crime these two scumbags committed against anyone of my family or someone I cared for I would do everything within my power to kill them somehow - that's the natural inclination for revenge.
I have no doubt the PC Brigade and the apologists will wait for the dust to settle and then quietly go about trying to convince us that somehow Adebolajo and Adebowale's human rights have been infringed upon.
I only hope the authorities remain steadfast in their determination to ensure that these sentences are carried out to the full.
Be under no illusion, life will not be easy for them.....but it will be a damn sight better than they deserve.
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The issue I have is that its the taxpayers who will foot the bill for there stay!
I'd much prefer to pay to keep them locked up for the duration than the cheaper alternative of releasing them any sooner.
There's nothing comfortable about their cells. They will be the same as everyone elses.
Theres no need for them to sleep on the floor.
Why? What does that solve?
There is nothing exceptional about these people and their crime other than they committed it in public.
There are plenty of people who do much worse,....
.....but because its in the dark or behind closed doors and not recorded,....
...... somehow for many people, it doesn't seem to carry as much weight. Funny that.
Prison has always been used as punishment, community sentences are about rehabilitation. The punishment is being denied freedom, punishing them further when they are in prison is called torture.
Its called murder. Its not unique, nor original and getting worked up over murders nothing to do with you, is a waste of time and energy.
We don't have a death penalty for good reason, the arguments have been had and that has been decided across Europe. We aren't going to change it.
There is no chance that their sentence would be overturned....
..... regardless of this 'PC brigade' you speak of.
The word brigade, originally used to describe a military unit, can also be used as a pejorative collective noun to describe an informal group of like-minded individuals with views with which the speaker disagrees. It is used as a mild term of disapproval or contempt, or in an attempt to belittle and ridicule the subject.
For example, "PC brigade" is used to describe a supposed group of people who go around enforcing ridiculously politically correct rules
To be frank, theres no such group of individuals that have defended their actions
....so you are reading the situation completely wrong.
Their life will be like most other people's in prison, no different.
I don't know why people seem to think that criminals in prison are some sort of unified force of morally upstanding individuals, because they're not. They're in prison for a reason.
Maybe i should start a 'Jesus worse than Hitler' or 'Muhammad worse than Stalin' thread. Only thing stopping me is the thought of dealing with the delusional religious nutcases it will invariably attract.