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reply to post by freakjive
Those guys in orange are only shallow water rescue divers and are not equipped to deep dive. They wear orange so they can be easily seen. The one in black is equipped for a deep dive. It doesn't look abnormal or out of place. From what I can see he/she was wearing a rebreather. Once you got all the garb on, buoyancy gear, extra tanks etc that's what a tech diver looks like. Rebreath er They are used in spec ops because of no bubbles emitted or very little, and you can stay under water for long periods. However, that doesn't make this unusual. The Coast Guard does rescues at sea and they have a deep diver program just like the Navy does. Still not saying foul play couldn't be done, but Coast Guard does have frogmen.edit on 27-2-2014 by sean because: (no reason given)
This video was taken as they exited the plane. The Coast Guard wasn't there yet. I do like your comment about re-breathers and special ops though. When the scuba diver is obviously present at 3:32, there is a male voice which says "Everybody head for shore!" If it was a rescue swimmer from the Coast Guard, there must have been a chopper to go with him right? Can't hear or see that in the video at that time. And it wouldn't make sense to be swimming for shore away from the rescuers! "Everybody head for shore" was ordered because the needle was being stuck in Loretta, and the diver didn't do such a good job staying underwater. It was another way of saying "Look away!"
Also suspicious is ABC reporter David Wright comment at 4:56, "...this video will put any conspiracy theorists to rest in suspecting Loretta Fuddys demise was anything other than an accident." An earlier poster made the point that this was the exact motive for why this hit would be done like this!
Ferdinand Puentas states at 6:15 his reason for having the Go Pro with him, "...wanted to make a story." lmao
I got my atube thing working, so I have a safe copy of this damning evidence. I can't get the sound to work on it though. Can anyone help me with that please?
I am not saying there isn't some strangeness to this event. Well the first pictures that I saw with the diver, I was thinking what is so odd about a rescue diver? The news sources that reported it clearly cut those parts out of the video with the diver. You can only see something there for a split second. The news report said the diver checked Loretta and she showed no response so according to protocol they tend to the others.
What's odd to me is the report said Loretta had her flotation device on. They also reported that the guy filming it all just happens to have a waterproof camera. They all said everyone was just fine and in fact the old guy swam to shore. They could have all done that if they grouped together. Why was the US Marshall that was there to protect the group not group together in water? You see them all splashing around separate and in groups of two. They had seats cushions too he had one and a flotation vest on but Loretta is left off alone apparently in distress drowning. That's what's odd to me.
The autopsy was vague in saying that arrhythmia was the result of stress. So did that lead to drowning? She was wearing a flotation vest! If buckled on right they will keep you afloat even unconscious. It's like impossible to get flipped over or flop forward face down ect. You can barely swim forward with them on. It's easier to just face backwards and kick & backstroke.edit on 28-2-2014 by sean because: (no reason given)
Also, apart from the fact that they are not grouped closer together... there is something unidentified behind the plane as they exit. If it was a person, then how could they get so far so quick after an emergency exit. Below is a pic and i pointed it out.
I have played the zoomed in slowed down video over and over again. At first glance it did look like a diver, but that may be because this was now a preconceived idea. Now that I have had a better look it is more and more apparent that she is on her back doing breast stroke legs i.e. Froggie legs and the black rounded shapes are her knees bending up with the light colour round the soles swooshing across the way as she 'treads water' horizontally. You can see the foot swivel slightly with the motion and the toe of her left foot on the right of the picture is momentarily seen too. Perhaps what we are seeing is the start of the onset of her heart failure with her legs kicking as the pain starts in her chest.
Immediately after the crash, Fuddy's body was taken to a care home at Kalaupapa, where Killilea, the pastor of Kalaupapa's St. Francis Church, said he made the sign of the cross on her forehead as she lay on a gurney surrounded by nurses and the distraught Yamamoto. Three survivors were transported by helicopter to a Honolulu hospital, two declined to be medically evacuated, and three were taken to Molokai General Hospital with minor injuries, officials said. Read more: www.vcstar.com... - vcstar.com
The plane lost power, he said, and the pilot maneuvered a water landing on the plane's belly, bringing the 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan to an abrupt stop. Hollstein said he was sitting in the back of the plane, so he didn't know whether the pilot was saying anything. “Everyone was real quiet. We hit (the water) and it was all about getting the belts off,” he said, describing how everyone started putting on life jackets and remained on the plane until it seemed to start sinking. “There wasn't panic or anything. It was very orderly. It wasn't like any of the movies or the TV shows.” Bobbing in the water, Hollstein noticed the pilot and seven passengers seemed fine. “I didn't want to sit out there bobbing, so I figured I'd take a shot at going to the shoreline.” Hollstein's wife, Janice Hollstein, said her husband rarely swims, but does leg exercises daily and is a skydiver. “My husband is able to handle emergencies and crisis situations.” Hollstein said he was surprised to hear that one of the passengers, Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy, had later died. “She was doing fine out of the airplane,” Hollstein said. “Her assistant was really watching her. He was taking care of her.” Read more: triblive.com... Follow us: @triblive on Twitter | triblive on Facebook
I have played the zoomed in slowed down video over and over again. At first glance it did look like a diver, but that may be because this was now a preconceived idea. Now that I have had a better look it is more and more apparent that she is on her back doing breast stroke legs i.e. Froggie legs and the black rounded shapes are her knees bending up with the light colour round the soles swooshing across the way as she 'treads water' horizontally. You can see the foot huge feetslightly with the motion and the toe of her left foot on the right of the picture is momentarily seen too. Perhaps what we are seeing is the start of the onset of her heart failure with her legs kicking as the pain starts in her chest.
I have to agree. I was convinced it was a diver at first, then I wondered why someone trying to stay hidden would wear yellow equipment. I watched again and I now think what we are seeing are shoe soles and knees moving or bobbing about as she is lying back in the water. Inside the plane her shoes look black with a light coloured sole and her pants look dark or black which would match what we are seeing. Her pants also look to be ballooning as they float in the water.
Makani Kai Air Charters, a subsidiary of Schuman Aviation Company Ltd., now offers twice-daily service each way on Mondays through Saturdays and one round trip on Sundays. The round trip cost is $154.56; Kalaupapa residents pay only $77.28. Prior to this service, Pacific Wings had been charging $550 round trip without subsidies. Makani Kai uses two nine-seat Cessna Grand Caravans for the 30-minute flight. The Federal Department of Transportation awarded Makani Kai the contract in December and the company is receiving Essential Air Service subsidies of $932,000 per year for the next two years. The EAS is a federal program that guarantees small communities served by certificated air carriers before deregulation maintain a minimal level of scheduled flights.
reply to post by Mikeultra
I have watched again and I disagree with what you say about her feet are too small and legs too short. You have to take into account persepective as well, her feet are nearer to the camera. Also it looks as if her life vest is around her neck rather than secured around her waist so much of that body length below the vest could be her torsoe, not just her legs.
I am not saying there is nothing strange about this, I just no longer see a diver.
And why do you think a diver trying to stay hidden would wear yellow or bright coloured equipment when black is available?
reply to post by Mikeultra
So I guess that means all the airlines that serve the 160 communities (outside Alaska) are serving the gov't and doing their bidding.