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Loretta Fuddy Death - Obama Birth Certificate. - New evidence

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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:03 PM
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What is so odd about divers retrieving a body??




posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:10 PM
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Sparkymedic
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Good point. Also, for all of those who think this would be idiotic to film a murder. Actually, this one, no it would not. If you wanted to create more evidence to ferment hate if not simple dissent towards someone (Obama), then obviously you would film this to create that divide, while also silencing, and drawing evidence that others will be silenced as well if they go down this road. How is this not obvious. This is a Machiavellian tactic used to divide and conquer. Have half believe that those reporting on suspicious divers be the conspiracy nuts while the other goes on in bliss. While in reality, a murder was just filmed in connection with someone who was trying to out a US presidents false credentials. If people can't see this or openly accept this possibility, then they are clearly trolls if not agents. More investigations are clearly needed.

I like your line of thinking on this point. I can see Barry telling the killers to bring him the video footage, and watching it with Eric, Reggie, Jay, Valerie, Janet, etc. etc. Telling them all what has been done and what can happen to them. I just read that Eric is on Deaths' door. He knows too much too. The ship is sinking...



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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freakjive

TDawg61
Are you saying that 1:That the plane was sabotaged and the pilots,crew and passengers were murdered.2:And THEN Fuddy survived the crash and was 3: murdered by the rescue divers AND 4:Was caught on video?
How many ridiculous aspects can you have in one conspiratorial act anyway??If there isn't an acceptable number than there should be!Hoax bin material to me.

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Did you bother to read any of the info submitted? Are you not familiar with this at all?

She was the lone fatality and was alive floating in the water after the crash.
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I'd laugh, but it's sad that someone believes this. I guess no one else alive noticed that she was murdered in front of them, right? Or they were all in on it? And yeah, I am so sure a pilot would willingly risk a water landing for this little conspiracy. What a crock.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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I dont know how many of you actually fly on General Aviation aircraft but I do on a regular basis and hang around with dozens of pilots. No pilot is going to risk a water landing on purpose. You dont "plan" a crash landing. There is no way to control the outcome. Training or not a single small wave and you are flipping end over end. Dead pilot and most likely dead everybody else. This is very suspicious I admit and I do not discount the possibility that she was a victim. Not however from divers meeting the crashed plane and pulling her under water. What kind of BS cheap spy novel plan would that be! Why not just put a damn bomb on the plane? if you can sneek in "military grade" boxes that crash plans then you can sneek in C4 with a timer.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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Dragoon01
I dont know how many of you actually fly on General Aviation aircraft but I do on a regular basis and hang around with dozens of pilots. No pilot is going to risk a water landing on purpose. You dont "plan" a crash landing. There is no way to control the outcome. Training or not a single small wave and you are flipping end over end. Dead pilot and most likely dead everybody else. This is very suspicious I admit and I do not discount the possibility that she was a victim. Not however from divers meeting the crashed plane and pulling her under water. What kind of BS cheap spy novel plan would that be! Why not just put a damn bomb on the plane? if you can sneek in "military grade" boxes that crash plans then you can sneek in C4 with a timer.


Because a bomb on board would have been too obvious. This way it looks like an "accident" plane crash and every one survives but one poor lady who suffers a heart attack from the stress. No ties to Obama.

It seems like a lot of folks with ties to Obama, or threats to Obama, have mysteriously died over the years. Someone should start a thread listing all these deaths, compiled in one spot, allowing others to add to it. It would be interesting. There was even rumor that the Clinton's were going to go after the birth certificate issue in 2008, but then shut up on it and this was according to one of her staffers. Why? Because they threatened the daughter. Maybe more conspiracy theory rumor, maybe not...but I do find it interesting that Hilary just stepped back without much of a fight while her lifelong dream was crushed.

Hopefully Republicans sweep the House and Senate in this year's elections and they impeach the world's greatest criminal mastermind. Actually, he probably isn't the mastermind, there are most likely others behind the puppet. Bring on President Biden. He may be a bumbling idiot, but nowhere near the criminal Obama is.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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Its the bottom of her show and her #ing knee people, get with it. I think whomever started this whole idea is just a shill.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 01:20 PM
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jaffo

freakjive

TDawg61
Are you saying that 1:That the plane was sabotaged and the pilots,crew and passengers were murdered.2:And THEN Fuddy survived the crash and was 3: murdered by the rescue divers AND 4:Was caught on video?
How many ridiculous aspects can you have in one conspiratorial act anyway??If there isn't an acceptable number than there should be!Hoax bin material to me.

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Did you bother to read any of the info submitted? Are you not familiar with this at all?

She was the lone fatality and was alive floating in the water after the crash.
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I'd laugh, but it's sad that someone believes this. I guess no one else alive noticed that she was murdered in front of them, right? Or they were all in on it? And yeah, I am so sure a pilot would willingly risk a water landing for this little conspiracy. What a crock.

The official story is that she was on the plane. I did not see her from looking at the video. She was probably drugged with a lethal dose of something on land and dropped into the sea near the scene of this staged plane crash from a chopper. Have you ever witnessed passengers be so dead calm as their plane is ditching in the ocean? Not a word was said. The pilot Mr. Kawasaki was laughing about the crash in an interview.


Google Video Link

Here's a link for the above video if I failed to embed it properly. The 1st from this page seems to be unedited and high resolution (Go Pro), the 2nd version with Dianne Sawyer is all chopped down because she hasn't the time to show the whole thing. After watching the 1st version a person sitting in seat 3a looks like Loretta Fuddy body type, hairdo. If Ferdinand wasn't so busy with his Go Pro, he could possibly have helped Loretta. That was not the plan however...
abcnews.go.com...

Why is Ferdinand Puentas wearing a U.S. Marshal hat?

Edit: Looks like I didn't embed the video right, just use the link if you're interested.

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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:23 PM
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Just looked at the video again and you can clearly see a diver engaged with one of the crash victims. Now who he is and where he came from, who knows? The diver can be seen at about 3:40 in the video. The passengers at that point were still spread out - basically yards from one another in the water. In none of the video do you see a rescue boat or a helicopter. One would think a Zodiac or a raft would have been deployed at that point in time.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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Bilk22
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Just looked at the video again and you can clearly see a diver engaged with one of the crash victims. Now who he is and where he came from, who knows? The diver can be seen at about 3:40 in the video. The passengers at that point were still spread out - basically yards from one another in the water. In none of the video do you see a rescue boat or a helicopter. One would think a Zodiac or a raft would have been deployed at that point in time.

I see him! Thank you I am working on screen captures right now. I need someone to tell me how do I preserve this video on my PC! If I save it as a web page will it always be safe? To those who say there is no scuba diver, OPEN YOUR EYES! At 3:33 in the first video at the ABC link!



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 03:07 PM
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yes it will be saved like a link and open in a browser. and will display as long as the content doesn't get pulled or purged like some sites do
if it is a youtube or some others you have to get video capture software.

i use, ATube Catcher, it's free. they maybe better out there but i like this one. it will not capture copyrighted materiel.


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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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Mikeultra

Bilk22
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Just looked at the video again and you can clearly see a diver engaged with one of the crash victims. Now who he is and where he came from, who knows? The diver can be seen at about 3:40 in the video. The passengers at that point were still spread out - basically yards from one another in the water. In none of the video do you see a rescue boat or a helicopter. One would think a Zodiac or a raft would have been deployed at that point in time.

I see him! Thank you I am working on screen captures right now. I need someone to tell me how do I preserve this video on my PC! If I save it as a web page will it always be safe? To those who say there is no scuba diver, OPEN YOUR EYES! At 3:33 in the first video at the ABC link!
There are apps that will download from Youtube. Yeah there's clearly a diver there. Yellow tank and full scuba gear.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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OK, I have the screen captures ready. I have four that are within fractions of a second at 3:33 clearly showing a scuba diver busy with Loretta. I now believe she was injected with a heart attack producing drug. I have three other captures at 3:19, 3:23 and 3:32.
First up is 3:19 where I believe Loretta Fuddy is on the left. It could also be the woman that was seated behind her.

Next at 3:23 there appears to be a boat nearby. Scuba divers boat?


The scuba divers foot at 3:32 in green circle.

3:33

3:33a

3:33b

3:33c


Notice how these demons decided to reveal their work at the 3:33? Also if you watch the 1st video at the ABC link (7:00+) you'll see at 3:25 the video cuts away from the crash site for 3 seconds, and shows Ferdinand on the beach sniveling about something. That must have been when the scuba diver broke the surface too brazenly and they had to cut that out. It resumes at the crash site at 3:28 where we can see all the above!

As for saving videos, I used to have a Youtube downloader before my pc crashed. How do I go about saving a video from ABC though?



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 04:57 PM
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Those guys in orange are only shallow water rescue divers and are not equipped to deep dive. They wear orange so they can be easily seen. The one in black is equipped for a deep dive. It doesn't look abnormal or out of place. From what I can see he/she was wearing a rebreather. Once you got all the garb on, buoyancy gear, extra tanks etc that's what a tech diver looks like. Rebreath er They are used in spec ops because of no bubbles emitted or very little, and you can stay under water for long periods. However, that doesn't make this unusual. The Coast Guard does rescues at sea and they have a deep diver program just like the Navy does. Still not saying foul play couldn't be done, but Coast Guard does have frogmen.
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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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I'm a natural-born skeptic and don't really do conspiracy theories, but this Fuddy thing STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN!

Her death is just a little too damn convenient for certain parties as far as I'm concerned.
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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 05:46 PM
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i'm out of here once and for all. you people are bat # crazy.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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kazanoom
i'm out of here once and for all. you people are bat # crazy.

I'm with you man.Where are they coming from and when will they go away????



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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sean
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Those guys in orange are only shallow water rescue divers and are not equipped to deep dive. They wear orange so they can be easily seen. The one in black is equipped for a deep dive. It doesn't look abnormal or out of place. From what I can see he/she was wearing a rebreather. Once you got all the garb on, buoyancy gear, extra tanks etc that's what a tech diver looks like. Rebreath er They are used in spec ops because of no bubbles emitted or very little, and you can stay under water for long periods. However, that doesn't make this unusual. The Coast Guard does rescues at sea and they have a deep diver program just like the Navy does. Still not saying foul play couldn't be done, but Coast Guard does have frogmen.
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This video was taken as they exited the plane. The Coast Guard wasn't there yet. I do like your comment about re-breathers and special ops though. When the scuba diver is obviously present at 3:32, there is a male voice which says "Everybody head for shore!" If it was a rescue swimmer from the Coast Guard, there must have been a chopper to go with him right? Can't hear or see that in the video at that time. And it wouldn't make sense to be swimming for shore away from the rescuers! "Everybody head for shore" was ordered because the needle was being stuck in Loretta, and the diver didn't do such a good job staying underwater. It was another way of saying "Look away!"

Also suspicious is ABC reporter David Wright comment at 4:56, "...this video will put any conspiracy theorists to rest in suspecting Loretta Fuddys demise was anything other than an accident." An earlier poster made the point that this was the exact motive for why this hit would be done like this!

Ferdinand Puentas states at 6:15 his reason for having the Go Pro with him, "...wanted to make a story." lmao

I got my atube thing working, so I have a safe copy of this damning evidence. I can't get the sound to work on it though. Can anyone help me with that please?



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 07:16 PM
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Honestly, if the government wanted to 'eliminate' this woman, this is so not the way to go. If, and I mean if, she fudged the paperwork, her death would not even be a blip on the radar. I still think there is something hokey with the whole birther thing, but this woman, died a premature death due to the stress of the crash.

I am not a doctor, but I feel this is too showy to be a conspiracy. Not to pop anyone's balloon, but this is not a case of murder. At least from the evidence presented.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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Mommymomo
Honestly, if the government wanted to 'eliminate' this woman, this is so not the way to go. If, and I mean if, she fudged the paperwork, her death would not even be a blip on the radar. I still think there is something hokey with the whole birther thing, but this woman, died a premature death due to the stress of the crash.

I am not a doctor, but I feel this is too showy to be a conspiracy. Not to pop anyone's balloon, but this is not a case of murder. At least from the evidence presented.

That's why they had to make this so showy. If she merely died at home there would be even more speculation. In this way they are showing everybody she died in an "accident". Did you look at the ABC video? Did you hear the ABC reporter say, "... luckily this video will put any conspiracy theories to rest.."? Look at it over and over and pay close attention starting at 3:23 until 3:37. You'll see a scuba diver killing her somehow! There was no mention of any scuba divers or rescue swimmers from the Coast Guard, they wear orange suits anyway. And this video is taken within 2 minutes of the crash! Don't worry about discouraging me, lol. I'm on to this M.O. I had to get rid of that atube gizmo, screwed up my browser (hijacker).
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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 09:40 PM
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This should probably be moved to the LOL forum. I thought this birth certificate stuff was already put to rest along time ago?



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