reply to post by jmdewey60
Text History of the First Christians by Alexander J. M. Wedderburn, on page 80 he says in regards to his training by Gamaliel, that it needs to be
asked if there is in Paul's letters "sufficient signs of Pharisaic learning to make to make the claim credible."
I realize that it is your prerogative to buy a book but I also do not understand why you would choose to purchase this J.M. Wedderburn’s work when
the scholarly field is loaded with free accounts by the world’s best scholars. You have all of the early church scholars at your fingertips such as
Josephus, Polycarp, Ignatius and dozens more. You also have renowned scholars such as Cassidy, Esler, Pervo, Munek, Freedman, Geisler, Guthrie,
Townsend and many more such as these men. Yet you choose a man who sells you his book who went to school and supposedly studied these men and then
formed his own opinions according to his revised opinions. Oh well.
You do realize that when you criticize the work of the author(s) of Acts that you also criticize the book of Luke. Are you aware of that? To doubt
Acts is to doubt Luke simply because the world’s leading scholars insist that the two works were at one time one work. To doubt Luke is to doubt
Paul and to doubt Paul is to doubt Barnabas and so on. Eventually you are going to hit yourself right between your own eyes.
Act 22:2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)
Act 22:3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught
according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
I want you to note several things in the above verses and probably this is why you will reject Acts and Luke. Firstly is the fact that Hebrew is
not a dead language in the time of the apostles as you have stated in your previous posts. Notice that Paul is here speaking in the Hebrew tongue.
Not in Greek as you would want others to believe, but in Hebrew. Hebrew was the foremost tongue of the Jews in this day of Christ Jesus. Some
examples are that Simon Peter himself is named, by Jesus, as Cephas which is the Aramaic tongue meaning Peter. Aramaic is the sister tongue of the
Hebrew tongue and if you understand Hebrew you will understand Aramaic. Even while in torment Jesus uttered “Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabach –Thami”
which is the Aramaic tongue. God is called “Abba” which is also Aramaic.
It is a literary fact in theology that Hebrew was not a dead language and has never been a dead language. It is true that the old Hebrew was
suppressed by the Greeks but not insofar as their liturgy was concerned. Alexander the Great suppressed all languages in his conquests but did not
erase their cultures. The very first Christian church was entirely Hebrew and this church was the church of the disciples and apostles of Jesus. The
book of Acts as well as other books proves this beyond a shadow of doubt that the people and Paul spoke Aramaic and Hebrew.
Now about Gamaliel. The very book that your so called scholar, Wedderburn, insists that Saul was not a pupil of Gamaliel is an absolute ignorant
teaching. I will go as far to say that if this man insists that what you say is true then he is either ignorant or a liar. Or perhaps both. At this
time in the history of Saul (Paul) there were two major Rabbinical Pharisee schools in Jerusalem. The foremost was that of Shammai and the other was
this of Gamaliel the grandson of the great teacher known as Hillel. There were six Gamaliels in the history of Rabbinic schools. This Gamaliel was
known as Gamaliel The Elder.
Saul was at this time at about the age of perhaps sixteen and the way we understand this is that at the age of six the boys were taught the
Pentateuch, writing and mathematics. At ten the Mishna added in oral form. At fifteen Gemara was added which is the extension of the Midrash which
is part of the Gemara. If the child is brilliant enough to enter Rabbinical school then the choice would have been that of Gamaliel or Shammai. The
pupil would have to have been interviewed by the teacher because only a limited amount of pupils were ever accepted.
Gamaliel The Elder was the President of the Sanhedrin at this time and was the first to have received the honor of Rabban. At the time of Saul’s
conversion he was honored with the distinction of being a Rabbi of Gamaliel The Elder.
If you insist on buying a book I would suggest that you get the books of Conybeare and Hawson on the life of Paul and discard this Wedderburn if you
want to study truth. Two volumes that are unsurpassed in scholarship.