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posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:29 PM
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FreeWillAnomaly

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FreeWillAnomaly
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Maybe if you weren't so lazy and stupid you would be able to see your kids. Should we take from others to give to you? You are paid what you are worth, and you will work as much as you are told to. Stop complaining about your situation. You made the choices that put you there.


This has been one of the most disgusting posts I have ever seen on ATS. you should be ashamed of yourself! Did you even read his post?
I am still holding out hope that it was sarcasm and I just missed it.

The Man clearly stated that he is a hard worker. Nothing in his post indicated that he was lazy, just the opposite.


Everyone works hard. Even the 8 dollar an hour factory workers work hard. Of course, it was sarcasm.

What I posted to him was a way of conveying a message. That is the mentality that is being pushed on the working class by the ruling class. Any time you hear someone talk like that to ANYONE, they are full of it. I don't care if they are talking to Mcdonald's worker like that. It is truly how many people think, though, especially Republicans. By preaching about "personal responsibility," twisting up the Bible to make it appear to say the opposite of what it says, and manipulating the perceptions of working class people who care about family - they have effectively subverted the free will of the working class and made us all fight over the crumbs that fall off the table of the ruling class. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Democrats either, but Republicans tend to be the worst.
edit on 25-2-2014 by FreeWillAnomaly because: (no reason given)


I would like to publicly apologize. I misinterpreted the intentions of your post. I sent you a U2U in case you miss the apology here.




posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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beezzer

my1percent
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I just sent you a pm , but feel I must say it here , looks like you have kick your butt Saturn , well under control through hard work and assuming your responsibilities good on ya. You must have reaped some rewards for that .1%


Everything I've earned, everything I've done has been through hard work. Nothing has ever been "given" to me. I'd be shocked if someone did. (and I wouldn't trust them either)

Turning 51 this year. Still think I have plenty left. Going to start treating myself to all those years when I couldn't. Simple things. Fishing with my sons. Spending time with the wife.
And always a good single malt.


Evidently you are the one person in human history to make it 5 decades on this Earth without anybody ever doing anything for you, or giving you anything.

What, were you 2 years old working coal mines to buy baby formula? Supporting your wife and kid while you were 7?

This type of mentality that everything you have is totally your own doing is so incredibly ignorant and greedy. You aren't a god. EVERYONE gets help, EVERYONE.

If you are so out of touch with reality you want to lie to yourself, be my guest, but you're the only one buying it.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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beezzer
I have yet to read much (except for a very few) about personal responsibility.

It's easy to play the victim. It's socially acceptable now.

I moved to get the job I wanted. And when that fell through? I moved again!

It's easy and acceptable to blame others for your misfortunes. What is hard is making a living in this day and age. But people still do it.

I guess I missed the part where it was supposed to be easy. (Still waiting for my trophy)


Hey beez how'd ya move? Floating on a free magic carpet? Or did you use a vehicle? With gas? Ya know, stuff that costs money.

If you have money to move, you are nowhere near down-and-out enough to be claiming any "bootstraps" story. Unless you borrowed money to help you move, but I know you didn't do that since you never accept help from anybody and are a totally self made man. The first in history.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:40 PM
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Still waiting for your trophy?

Play the victim. Place blame. Point fingers.

Or

Suck it up and move on with your life. Do what needs to be done. Or just wait for someone to give it to you. Or get angry and justify taking it from someone who has more.


This "divide" between those who have and those who have less is getting nauseating. Getting angry at those who have more won't put more in your pocket.

Working hard might.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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beezzer
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Awww, I'm so sorry it's hard for you and that you want it easy.

Work is hard (frowny face)

Life is hard ( double frowny face)

No amount of petty whining from the entitled is going to get me to change my position.

Do you want your trophy now?


You are just out of touch with reality. HARD WORK MEANS NOTHING.

You refuse to actually address any issues, just repeat the same garbage over and over.

YOU HAD IT EASY

Did that bother you, me saying you have it easy? How do you think people who ACTUALLY have it hard feel when YOU say to work harder?

You wanna tell a guy who's body is broken from years of hard work that he was just lazy?

The hardest workers in the world are the people at the bottom. They hold EVERYBODY else up. Their labor supports EVERYONE else while they sit around in their offices drinking starbucks and chatting about how their life sucks because they have to work on saturday.

If you are claiming other people don't work hard, then you have absolutely no idea what hard work is. Being "clever" is not working hard. Screwing people over is not working hard. Being tricky is not working hard. Hard work is hard work. It tears your body apart. It weakens your mind. Come back when you try some.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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People are becoming more in tune with the philosophy that says: "It is not enough that I succeed, everyone else must fail!"

I think it was Genghis Khan or Attila the Hun..

It also includes "if I don't succeed, no one else better succeed either" People are like this a lot now.
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posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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Can you point out where I said that hard working people were lazy?

Source please.

I said, personal responsibility, rather than entitlement thinking will get you farther.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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beezzer
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Still waiting for your trophy?

Play the victim. Place blame. Point fingers.

Or

Suck it up and move on with your life. Do what needs to be done. Or just wait for someone to give it to you. Or get angry and justify taking it from someone who has more.


This "divide" between those who have and those who have less is getting nauseating. Getting angry at those who have more won't put more in your pocket.

Working hard might.


I'm waiting for you to wake up.

You, again, have yet to address ANY issues. Just more 1 cent replies. You afraid to actually delve into issue? Is your understanding of it too superficial to actually think past the surface?

Do you not understand that "all created equal" doesn't actually mean we all face identical issues? Have you ever thought it was possible that you have it easier than you preach, that other people in worse situations worked harder than you, but still didn't make it? Have you EVER thought that? Or do you instantly just remember "I have more money, I must have worked harder"
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posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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beezzer
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Can you point out where I said that hard working people were lazy?

Source please.

I said, personal responsibility, rather than entitlement thinking will get you farther.



You've gone on and on espousing how you have triumphed (over what exactly?) and succeeded based on nothing but your own hard work and determination.

What is the point of posting it? The point is to imply people who are poor, people who complain about the actions of the wealthy are just lazy. Am I wrong? If so, what is the point in your posts then? Are you not claiming that poor people and those that complain about the actions of the wealthy are just people adverse to hard work? If not, again what are you trying to say with your posts?



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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James1982

beezzer
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Still waiting for your trophy?

Play the victim. Place blame. Point fingers.

Or

Suck it up and move on with your life. Do what needs to be done. Or just wait for someone to give it to you. Or get angry and justify taking it from someone who has more.


This "divide" between those who have and those who have less is getting nauseating. Getting angry at those who have more won't put more in your pocket.

Working hard might.


I'm waiting for you to wake up.

You, again, have yet to address ANY issues. Just more 1 cent replies. You afraid to actually delve into issue? Is your understanding of it too superficial to actually think past the surface?

Do you not understand that "all created equal" doesn't actually mean we all face identical issues? Have you ever thought it was possible that you have it easier than you preach, that other people in worse situations worked harder than you, but still didn't make it? Have you EVER thought that? Or do you instantly just remember "I have more money, I must have worked harder"
edit on 25-2-2014 by James1982 because: (no reason given)


Ahhh, I get it now.

You don't want just equal oppourtunity, you want equal outcome.

Riiii-iiight!



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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James1982

beezzer
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Can you point out where I said that hard working people were lazy?

Source please.

I said, personal responsibility, rather than entitlement thinking will get you farther.



You've gone on and on espousing how you have triumphed (over what exactly?) and succeeded based on nothing but your own hard work and determination.

What is the point of posting it? The point is to imply people who are poor, people who complain about the actions of the wealthy are just lazy. Am I wrong? If so, what is the point in your posts then? Are you not claiming that poor people and those that complain about the actions of the wealthy are just people adverse to hard work? If not, again what are you trying to say with your posts?



I explained it quite well.

People find it easier to blame, to point fingers, to play the victim than to take personal responsibility for their actions and situations and work hard to remove themselves from said situations.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 06:07 PM
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No I work the way that I work because I would rather have my wife raise our kids and stay at home and not rely on daycare to raise my kids , I do what I have to do to provide for my family I don't have the time or the money to go to school , I don't come from a rich family I sacrifice myself and time with my family ( granted I have all the time in the winter unless there is snow to be hauled seems America took all our snow this year ... bastards
) for 8 months of the year , to give them a better life than I had as a kid . Sure I could work for 2/3rds less and only work 8 hours but financially I cannot afford that and probably need some sort of government assistance .. sooo yeah

ETA Guess you were being sarcastic , kinda hard to convey sometimes over this internet ..

I don't mind fight over bread crumbs , atleast it is honest work


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posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 06:39 PM
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LUXUS
How has the world become like this that the majority of people would prefer to see others doing bad then good, that those who chose to work hard are hated by those who chose to sit on their ass. Is it not a show of bad character? and if the majority of people feel this way is it not proof of social decline.


It is naive to assume anything. Assuming that people that sit on their ass = lazy or lazy = dumb or hard work = success. This is all bull#.

If you bothered to open your eyes you would know that there is more to success than simply 'hard work'. I bet those that 'sit on their ass' know about this. If everyone had a fair go im sure that they too would be quite successful. But that is not the case, now theres more discrimination and racism in the application process more than ever, as long as this exists there can never be equality in any form.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 06:42 PM
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I worked for a millionaire who constantly told me he had worked hard and earned every penny he had, but after fishing and drinking a few brews it turned out:

When he was in 5th grade hid dad bought him a commercial fishing license and a gill netter and told him to start working. He made a good living, but the bulk of his fortune was inherited from his fathers passing away.

I could never understand how he considered that working hard for everything he had, but he did and would argue the point venomously.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:27 PM
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freedomSlave
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I don't mind fight over bread crumbs , atleast it is honest work


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Really? Don't mind being a crab in a bucket?

It's one thing to accept the crumbs and a whole different thing to fight over them. Most people are fighting over them and it is pathetic. I know that's not what you meant, but hopefully you understand the metaphor.

People have too great of a need for control. It is how they are controlled themselves.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:29 PM
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beezzer

James1982

beezzer
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Can you point out where I said that hard working people were lazy?

Source please.

I said, personal responsibility, rather than entitlement thinking will get you farther.



You've gone on and on espousing how you have triumphed (over what exactly?) and succeeded based on nothing but your own hard work and determination.

What is the point of posting it? The point is to imply people who are poor, people who complain about the actions of the wealthy are just lazy. Am I wrong? If so, what is the point in your posts then? Are you not claiming that poor people and those that complain about the actions of the wealthy are just people adverse to hard work? If not, again what are you trying to say with your posts?



I explained it quite well.

People find it easier to blame, to point fingers, to play the victim than to take personal responsibility for their actions and situations and work hard to remove themselves from said situations.



You were never in a bad situation. That's why you think victims of the ruling class are just playing. It wasn't your friends getting shot over nothing. It wasn't you going hungry. It wasn't you exposed to violence on a daily basis. So you think they are just crying. Well, deep down you know better, but it sure makes it easier to live the way you do and act the way you act if you pretend they are just playing victim.

So how many of your kids got hit by stray bullets?
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posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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You will find nothing but broad generalizations and faulty logic among people who use the common lines of preconceived constructs of thought patterns you find in beezer. It is brainwashing.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:46 PM
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Agreed!!

Yes, they have Equal opportunity, thanks to the Republican Party. However, they have been conditioned to believe that they must also receive Equal Results, which is NOT fair in the least bit.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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more and more people ARE working hard to support their families and finding that the paycheck doesn't cover the basic needs! The are supplementing their income with food stamps hud child care subsidies and other gov't handouts! More and more occupations that once would support that family are being added to the list of "not worth a living wage". I predict that it won't be long before even Beezer finds him or herself on that list! Most of us will be I'd say around 80%-90% of the population will be sooner or later! I also predict that sooner or later as more and more people find themselves taking more than they are giving the few lucky ones who are still giving are gonna gripe loud enough to get their way and the rug will be pulled out! What do you think all those bullets the gov't is buying are for? YA some horrible event will probably be orchestrated to place the blame on but I believe we very near the tipping point now Those that have the most are being expected to actually pitch in and keep the workers alive. They'd rather collaspe the whole thing than let t hat happen!



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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QueenofSpades
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Yes, they have Equal opportunity, thanks to the Republican Party.



Always watch out when Republicans start capitalizing words that should not be capitalized. Like when they capitalize Blacks or Whites or Equal.

While Democrats like JFK played a major role in fighting the racism that is still predominant in the Republican party, both parties are to blame for perpetuating it in recent decades.

In fact, I am not even sure who "they" refers to. Who is they? Poor people? Republicans hate them. Especially the "Black" ones. But I think I know who you were talking about. Everyone knows poor people do not have "Equal" opportunities (even Republicans). There is only one category that would have been in question in your mind. Poor "Whites" versus poor "Blacks."

For an understanding of this mind frame, visit an un-moderated "Conservative" website. (Hint: "Democrat" is code for "Black" person)




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