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ATS: Possible Source of Mysterious Boom Found

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posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 02:25 PM
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If I lived in this area I would attempt to organize a small team myself to go underground and do some investigating. Earplugs will be a must but I have no idea where I would aquire hazmat suits. Why don't some of you that live in the area try to find out whats going on in the area? I might actually be willing to provide funds via PAYPAL if we could get a serious team to investigate.




posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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this is nuts.....

Please keep us informed to what is going on.....

First its loud booms.... then we hear about shock waves 4 miles away?

Miniture underground nuclear testing?

?????????


later,

Reason



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 03:26 PM
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This may sound like a silly question but has anyone got any recordings of these booms?

If we could get hold of a recording then someone on ats might recognise what the sounds are.

Is is just one loud BOOM then nothing at all for x amount of hours/days?

Or is it BOOM...BOOM....BOOM?

Because surely some could get a recording if its the latter?



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 03:45 PM
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Yes mark there is an ongoing discussion about it here

Booms in VA


d1k

posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 04:17 PM
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So what exactly do these pressure devices do? How could they set of a "boom" that can be heard miles away?



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 04:33 PM
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"Pressure devices"??
Don't you get tired of the press and the "authorities" disrespecting the public by continually serving up half-truths and lies about every event that makes the news?



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 04:35 PM
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Whatever they are the authorities wont explain. These are definitely not fire crackers. The fact that they won't say exactly what they have found, and also that the areas where they have been found, (both above and below) are being treated as crime scenes leads me to suggest that perhaps this is not just pranks by kids.


"We found some items that are of a suspicious nature," Martin said. "We have found evidence. It is a crime scene," he added, referring to the areas where the objects were found.

He described the objects found as "sort of an explosive device," but "more of a pressure-producing device." He said the objects are designed to create sound, and "damage if you are close to it." He said it was possible but generally unlikely that the items could be considered lethal.

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The pressure-producing devices, he said, would not create "a crater," but rather a "large amount of noise." Asked to describe the devices, Martin said they could be as small as four to five inches in diameter, or up to a foot. He said he knew of no known commercial applications for such equipment.

He indicated the items could have been home-made, but declined to answer further questions about their nature, citing the police investigation.


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posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 05:35 PM
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Testing EMP weapons? I had put a thread up about possible attacks using these, and maybe they are dry runs. Why not? I mean, there is no way it is a firecracker if it is felt in a 4 mile radius.

...or maybe it is just survivalsits bieng macho or just ex EOD military with a messing around because he is retired and bored...or maybe all those bright falling lights are the recon battalion from up there...who knows????

in ANY case, this is very strange. I cannot wait to find out what it actually is. The Truth is always stranger than fiction.



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 05:59 PM
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What I'm about to say certainly isn't an explanation, but instead, just goes to show you how strange soundwaves can behave:

I work in Lawton Oklahoma, right next to Ft. Sill (I'm also in the national guard, and support a field artillery unit that fires MLRS *Multiple Launch Rocket System*). When I'm at work, and can audibly (not horribly loud) hear the rockets/artillery rounds in the impact zone approximately ten miles from where I work a few times a week.

Now, I live in Duncan Ok about 45 minutes from where I work, and about 55 miles from the impact zone...and it's still audible. (You mostly just feel it more than anything, but still...). Now...if it's not that loud when I'm practically right next to it, I shouldn't be able to hear it in the next county...but strangely enough...

Low frequency soundwaves (and radiowaves) travel much better through dense medium than higher frequency waves. This is something that would have to be taken into account when triangulating the source of the explosions. Geologists, when looking at seismic activity to determine the source of an earthquake due to tectonic plate movement must take into account where the water table is, types of rocks the waves are traveling through, etc, etc between where the waves originated, and the listening stations.

From the descriptions I've read about regarding what these sound like, I'm reminded of what it felt like to observe the detonation of a claymore mine from about 100 yards. The "snap & roll" that is described hits the nail right on the head. Of course, I'm not suggesting that this is a claymore mine...
You see the explosion, you hear a modest crack, and then *BOOM*, ruuuumble......
The boom definitely feels like it's coming from "inside" your chest.

I'm not a sound expert, but hopefully what I've written can give you guys something to think about. I'm an electronics technician as well, but I can't think of anything I know, that would be relevant to this topic in regards to the charred birds, and strange sensations some of the locals in these news stories have reported...



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 06:14 PM
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maybe this device is using the sewer to send the sounds through the pipes into peoples houses, maybe military testing a sound transmission device.



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by d1k
So what exactly do these pressure devices do? How could they set of a "boom" that can be heard miles away?


They are used to call up the giant sand worms. Then we will ride them to victory.



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 08:36 PM
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I am from the Norther VA area, and just heard about these incidents this morning on the Elliot in the Morning show on DC101. They also reported that is was occuring in Indiana, like prevously stated, and also somewhere in Canada. I have been searching around, and cannot find any more information than has already been dug up. I will keep my ears open, for information not booms, I am way to far away to experiance them.



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 10:52 PM
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does it feel like bass in a stereo system, because bass is very low, and it travels right through you.



posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by MrNice
Unless they were chatting / reading posts on the INTERNET. I've heard that people with similar interests can communicate long distances using that thingy.


"Ooooh, they have the internet on computers now."

dyepes
I might actually be willing to provide funds via PAYPAL if we could get a serious team to investigate.

I don't think you're going to find many people willing to crawl in human waste (short of the caste of Jackass), nor get permisison to do so.

esdad
Testing EMP weapons?

Then radios and other electronics wouldn't be working and there would be massive amounts of radiation. THe 'Pressure Device" story sounds convincing enough, someone is using some little machines that make loud noises. They won't describe it further, because that would let whoever is doing it know how much they know.

groingrinder
They are used to call up the giant sand worms.

Don't be stupid, there haven't been any reports of electrical activity at the surface! Besides, the sleeper has not yet awoken!!!

joe751
because bass is very low

And as another poster pointed out its omnidirectional (when you hear it you can't pinpoint its location) and travels very long distances. Whales are famous for using bassy sounds to communicate over miles and even elephants use them to communicate long distance. However, it wouldn't be a good way for the military or any group that doesn't want to broadcast their messages to everyone to use, and it can obviously be 'interfered' with very easily (just make your own sounds).

But this is certainly bizzare, I wonder how simple or sophisticated these devices are?



posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 08:27 AM
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I meant testing the design of the EMP explosive to use, not the actual use of one. Sorry, should have been clearer.

I have also read though that there are other area in the states that have these noises. Were thre any reports of birght light falling in the area in the last few months?



posted on Nov, 25 2004 @ 11:29 AM
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HA! You guys were right! It was teenagers. Silly teenagers playing with explosives.
Well the one they have arrested so far is facing up to 10 years in jail, although since he is 15, and if its his first felony offence he will probably get off much lighter than that. I bet he couldn't give up the names of his cohorts fast enough!


Authorities have arrested a 15-year-old resident of the neighborhood where mysterious booms have frightened residents since the beginning of the month.

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The explosions were caused by a simple chemical reaction, a city public works spokesman told the Richmond Times-Dispatch. Three devices recovered by police earlier this week were made of common materials, including plastic soda bottles.

The reaction produced enough pressure to burst the bottles and cause a loud boom, the spokesman said.


Teenager Charged in Richmond Booms



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 10:56 PM
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What about the ones that have been reported in other states? I never knew that simple chemical mixtures and 2 liter bottles cause noise miles away. Amazing how a small snippet makes everyone look for the next story..



posted on Nov, 30 2004 @ 07:28 AM
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i have an older buddy of mine that did that chit to us when we were younger, their is chemicals that you can mix and put in a 2 liter bottle and after a few minutes it will mix and blow up and it is loud as hell, so i bet it can be heard for miles if it is set off in a sewer.



posted on Dec, 3 2004 @ 05:26 PM
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What these kids had was a PVC cannon. Take PVC plumbing pipe and drill a hole near one end. Place a sparking device like a piezo-electric switch in that hole. Spray Aqua-Net hair spray in that end and place a PVC cap on that end.

Spark the switch using a 9V battery and you get a very loud boom. Enough explosive force to blow an orange stuffed into the barrel 400 feet into the air.

Alternately, they could have poured liquid nitrogen into a 64-ounce Coke bottle, screwed the cap on and let the bottle swell to double its size. In about five minutes, you've got a very loud explosion on your hands - enough to blow the grass off the lawn beneath the bottle.

I'd say they had a cannon because it's more portable than liquid nitrogen. They cost $2.00 to make and every time the media reports incidents like this, it inspires a new generation of mischief-makers to comb the Internet, searching for ways to alarm their communities.

I miss the good old days when you could stick a cherry bomb in someone's mailbox, light the fuse and watch it go sailing over the house. It had that personal touch that's missing today, That's what cyberspace and the Internet have done to us. I'm numb. Later.



posted on Dec, 4 2004 @ 12:59 PM
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The booms are back! Even after the arrests there was another loud boom yesterday morning. This is probably the work of a copycat, and I have a feeling this phenomenon is going to continue for quite a long time.


Officials were unsure what caused the explosion. Vida said investigators searching the area were unable to find evidence of the household materials used in a number of the chemical-reaction explosive devices detonated in the area in the past month.

Still, authorities are not convinced all of the booms can be accounted for by pranksters.

The city is expected to bring in special equipment over the next couple of days to help monitor the ground for possible seismic activity.

"We want to look above and below ground," Vida said. "We will continue the investigation."



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