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reply to post by Kali74
What percentage is co2 in the atmosphere ? It would seem to me that it's only a small portion of the whole .If it had the amount of effect they claim it to have then life probably could not have existed in the past .Look at MM hockey stick and you see a lot of co2 by comparison to other years but we don't see the heat unless we are to believe that co2 decides it's going to hide it's heat in the deep oceans and that has a ring like it's colder because it's warmer .Many word plays but they all have this man made cause that I just cant see how they could .
...what politicians do with an issue shouldn't have any bearing on whether an issue is a fact or not.
What I AM saying, is that these lifestyle and technology changes should be made whether humanity is to blame for the changes or not, and that knowing which it is, is not as important as mitigating the effects. It just is not important to know, only important that we act correctly from here on.
you have also got to remember that man's contribution to CO2 content of the atmosphere is something like .00003 percent IIRC. and that CO2's forcing is not linear. it does not continue up on a slope but instead falls off rapidly.
reply to post by samlf3rd
Now that's a scientific approach! lol
My point is that just a few years ago a lot of the aerosols we were generating were thought to be of the greenhouse type. There has been some "reassignments" after further study which has shown that some of those have achieved the opposite effect.
The world climate is so complicated that we do not even know who all the players are, so to speak, let alone the extent of the effects. Only man's hubris would be such that we would believe we can "fix" it.
How much of an affect has the weakening of our magnetic field had? Can we even quantify that at all? I can guarantee that none of the climate models have taken that into account. So...if the magnetosphere has weakened by 15% in the last 200 years, exactly how much of the climate change/global warming during that period is due solely to man, and how much is due solely to the weakened magnetosphere?
The tundra is melting and releasing tons of methane into the atmosphere... Are there changes that we can make to offset that short of returning to the horse and buggy era? (which I might add would result in billions starving and a lot of smoke entering the atmosphere as people burn up all the wood in the world).
I do not deny climate change. I deny our ability to affect countering change to balance it. What we do not know about climatology is legion.
reply to post by markosity1973
Anyone who believes that our industries and pollutions have no effect on our planet need to leave this precious place. (and they are morons too)...
There is 2-3 times more CO2 during the ice age than today.
Global warming should produce more rain due to precipitation, and the Antarctic Ice is 25% above normal. So this proves that global warming is a hoax.
That leaves the Sun which is the major factor for weather on Earth.
Now the Suns is experiencing all all time low since a few decades in sunspots. That leaves me to believe and well as many other scientists that we are going through global cooling, not warming.
One would ask why are billions spent for global warming propaganda. U would have to follow the money trail and discover it's for a global carbon tax agenda.