Is it all about draining us of our life force? Are we just batteries to them?

reply to post by Specimen

What a big mistake we make to think only on our terms with our limited...even infantile...ideas of what they'd want (nothing!)...what they'd need(nothing!)....what they HAVE to look like(we cant even imagine!).

Ad to that some of the opinions here about them rocket-propelling through space and time (not!)...and we see a couple of real potentialities that could derail this thread.

A some-hundreds of thousands...even MILLIONS of years advance of us...if we just think about it a minute...one can surmise they in that realization...they couldnt want anything from us that they cant get a million other places out there of gold and mineral rich planets they can get to.

Certainly nothing from this little primitive backwoods rock in a small corner of space from a bunch of ants bent on destroying themselves and their own planet.

LEAST OF ALL OUR LIFE ENERGY FORCE.

No we aren't batteries to any extra-terrestrial or extra-dimensional entities. That is just stupid. Stupid on their part. Humans consume MANY fuels to produce the energy we need to power our bodies. We are constantly decaying and need to constantly be maintained to output the right energies to stay alive. Anything that used another life form as energy would quickly run out of power sources or fuel to keep its life forms alive. Basically the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics completely contradicts your OP.

Also, if a being can harness the technology to seek out and find our planet in the vast emptiness of the cosmos or even travel between dimensions, I'd imagine they have the technology to harness better, natural power sources, like stars.

It isn't any alien from another world draining our life force from us, it's our leaders stealing our life force away in order to live an easy fruitful life at our expense.

if there are any aliens out there, they are just sitting there watching and wondering why we take this crap in befuddlment.

One would think that an extraterrestrial species that can move a ship and its inhabitants across the stars would have mastered better energy sources than people. I'd also assume that beings from another planet wouldn't have evolved human soul-siphoning on a planet without humans.

I think that we humans may have something in our DNA that means we are the guardians of this Earth and that we can still evolve into spiritual beings. I suspect that we have a connection which potentially allows us to renew our energy and evolve onwards. However, some of the feeders cannot evolve back into larger energy constructs like we can and have to feed off our energy to keep themselves from falling back.

I dont think that any old energy will do it or suffice, but it has to be energy from a connected (or potentially connected) being as this would explain why they come here and why they need to feed off us. Either that, or else the Earth is in a stategic position in the cosmos.

Some people believe that we get mutated and restricted as we come into this dimension for rebirth into a body and the mechanics of connecting with a perpetual renewable source of life energy has been lost to us and we have forgotten how to connect to it,. So we have to relearn that somehow.

The fact that most of us have to eat other beings for our energy means we are as damaged as the ETs are. However, if we were to fulfill our potential, then we would be able to be breatharians, taking our energy from the environment and not needing to kill to feed but eating nuts and berries and fruits which are manafactured and are not part of the original being.

At this stage no-one really knows do they? It is all as much a belief system as religion is unfortunately..

qmantoo The fact that most of us have to eat other beings for our energy means we are as damaged as the ETs are. However, if we were to fulfill our potential, then we would be able to be breatharians, taking our energy from the environment and not needing to kill to feed but eating nuts and berries and fruits which are manafactured and are not part of the original being.

Doesn't a breatharian not need to eat anything at all, including synthetic nuts, berries etc?

Can you explain the part after that, about how nuts and berries and fruits? Do you mean they are manufactured by the plants, or that we should create a manufacturing process for those foods?

Logiciel
But the Loosh story is an interesting concept. Maybe a higher power creates the right circonstances here on Earth to feed on our hate/Loosh.

I would just like to point out that, according to Monroe, Loosh is love and he even writes it in his book, "Far Journeys" as Loosh/Love. He also states at one point that it is a product of human activity that triggers emotion.

If he is right then all human emotion is a sign of loosh production and they would all be a signal for the "collectors". Here is an intersting quote:

From experience, the Collectors have evolved an entire technology with complementary tools for the harvesting of Loosh from the Type 4M units. The most common have been named love, friendship, family, greed, hate, pain, guilt, disease, pride, ambition, ownership, possession, sacrifice—and on a larger scale, nations, provincialism, wars, famine, religion, machines, freedom, industry, trade, to list a few. Loosh production is higher than ever before . . .

reply to post by MerkabaMeditation


It is commonplace. Even other human beings can drain a person's life force.

reply to post by mysterioustranger


They cannot live here themselves so they are creating hybrids who can live here and serve them and help them get what they want. They need beings who can live here and dig out the minerals etc. for them. Hybrids will organise this for them.

reply to post by EnPassant

You said- "They cannot live here themselves so they are creating hybrids who can live here and serve them and help them get what they want. They need beings who can live here and dig out the minerals etc. for them. Hybrids will organise this for them."


Youre joking right? You havent given this much thought I think. And cant live here? HA! They can bounce thru deep space, but you assume they cant live here? Really? Do you know how many stars are above our heads and how many more we cant even see?

They dont need any minerals from us out of the billions of other places in the universe they can get what they want from. Some are pure gold, or other "minerals" we cant even imagine. Need us? Hybrids? With super advanced intelligences we cant even grasp...us ants down here arent worth anything to them that they cant find elsewhere.

They dont need us, our minerals, us as hybrid-anythings, as slaves or food.
I will at least admit there are millions...MILLIONs of other places, minerals, species we cant even imagine yet because we cant...out there. That is obvious.

Given their obviously super advanced intelligence...they need NOTHING from us. NOTHING. Except maybe as a rest stop....

Movies and video games are not reality. Read more. Study more.

reply to post by mysterioustranger


How do you know they are as advanced as you say they are? ok they have some cool stuff but if they are not biologically suited to our environment maybe it is more expedient for them to get us to do the work for them. What if there is too much or too little oxygen in our atmosphere for them? What about germs? Too much sunlight? It might be a real headache for them to set up shop here. Maybe it just costs much less to get us to do the work for them...they are not the gods you seem to think they are.

They clearly want something from us, that is beyond doubt given their intense interest in us and their abduction program. If the universe is a largely barren place they might have discovered a spiritual and natural treasure trove here. We may be one of only a few planets with life on it within their radius of space travel. Maybe the only one they have come across that they can exploit...

EnPassant
reply to post by mysterioustranger

 

How do you know they are as advanced as you say they are? ok they have some cool stuff but if they are not biologically suited to our environment maybe it is more expedient for them to get us to do the work for them. What if there is too much or too little oxygen in our atmosphere for them? What about germs? Too much sunlight? It might be a real headache for them to set up shop here. Maybe it just costs much less to get us to do the work for them...they are not the gods you seem to think they are.

One would assume that a species that could move between the vaccuum and radiation of space would necessarily have environmental control technology, or they'd never make it here.

They are here to harvest the earth just as humans harvest the earth, they definitely aren't here to look at us from a distance and just watch, but engage in all of what earth has to offer.

And land on the white house lawn? Well just about...They flew over the white house and buzzed it in 1952.

reply to post by conundrummer

Thanks for the defense. He obviously doesn't get that "highly advanced intersteller-interdimensional-intergallactic" species probability.

He gave that away when he mentioned they have "cool stuff" in a high school too-many movies and games kinda way.

Thanks

conundrummer
One would think that an extraterrestrial species that can move a ship and its inhabitants across the stars would have mastered better energy sources than people. I'd also assume that beings from another planet wouldn't have evolved human soul-siphoning on a planet without humans.

A common concept in science fiction is that of ascention. Being able to become energy and live among the stars. What if beings of energy actually exist? Maybe they live out of space or phased out of time. Maybe they exist between dimensions, who knows. What they use for substinance isn't matter but energy. Maybe certain people have what they're looking for and they take it. Maybe they're unintelligent creatures that live as parasites as well in those realms.
Its mainly science fiction, but thinking we know everything about lifeforms is unfounded.

reply to post by EnPassant


Wake up. They want nothing from us. Nothing.They'd be too far along and can make or find it elsewhere. You really have an opportunity here to advance your thinking. But you've gotta get out of that 1950's way of doing it.

Watch some documentaries at least from the 2000's and up, read more even if its just here at ATS.

Any advanced species of... "traveling through the cosmos beings" don't need our gold, don't want to breed us for slaves, don't want to destroy us, and aren't gonna eat us.

Highly advanced beings with a greater intelligence its presumed, will have moved way way way beyond all that. You should too.

If there are mystery energy beings draining humans of some vital force, what sort of evidence would we see?

reply to post by mysterioustranger

What do you mean by advanced? A human can get on a plane and travel from LA to NY (approx. 4000km) in 5 hours. That might seem pretty advanced to a yeast cell but still we use them to make our bread and drinks.

What about our other foods? Are plants and animals not living creatures that we cultivate and use to exist, despite being more "advanced"?

Maybe the idea that more advanced beings have moved way way way beyond all that is the stuff of movies and video games.

MerkabaMeditation

taoistguy
reply to post by MerkabaMeditation

 

what is your full experience with what you say?

The experiences vary vastly;

- Having terrible dreams, then waking up and seeing a blue skinned alien next to my bed starting into my eyes (and I suspect projecting the bad dream that I had into my head somehow)
- Seeing a translucent red ball of light about 3 feet in diameter coming through the ceiling of my bedroom in the night and then suddenly it is morning (lost time)
- Many childhood experiences where I met 5 feet bald oriental looking entities with disproportionally large heads compared to the rest of their body
- Being led into rooms where a typical grey stares into my eyes and projecting images of my mother being tortured
- Very painful teeth drilling where I could not move nor open my eyes even though I was awake - with no holes afterwards

, and much more.

These entities have been part of my life since ever my very first memories.

-MM

edit on 23-2-2014 by MerkabaMeditation because: (no reason given)

what got my attention there was the blue skinned alien i rarely ever dream in the last 3 years i can remember 2 dreams and they are normally stupid but 1 i had with a blue alien like the creature in aliens see through but with a halo of blue round it still scares me years later

reply to post by MerkabaMeditation

lol! IF that were true, then my 2 years of predicting humanoid species from subterranean or lateral subterranean humanoids rising above after numerous volcano's erupt with many huge Earthquake causing an, opening/door to the surface for them will cause us to require different electrical means or we end up back before electricity, is moot cause it must already be occurring