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Will be Ukraine Civil War the very last trigger of WWIII? Is this the accomplishment of Garabandal?

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posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 02:29 PM
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Well one of the earliest fragment's of the gospel's was found not far from Nag Hamaddi in egypt and may be as early as 86 AD, Though the bible as you correctly point out was picked and chosen in the third century AD (as well as edited to remove any reference that could be interpreted as reincarnation) the christian faith already deified christ as God's son and God incarnate before this, it was one of the many reasons that the ancient Messianic Jew's and the Early Gentile christian's schismed but the Syrian orthodox is believed to be a descendant of the Jewish and Greek palestinian christians as well as the other's whom joined them and they still use the Arymaic language which is believed to have been the Spoken language of the time of christ, The fact christ read the Scroll's in the Synagogue meant he could speak and read Hebrew which proved he was jew in opposition to some later Jewish scholars whom claimed he was not, but the day to day language was Arymaic and this is the language Christ spoke to the people and they use during there mass.
Interestingly they were not part of the conclave of nicenea but accepted the bible that was made there though they have older litturgy and are a pre nicean marionite church whome venerate the holy mother.
I am glad you are not a Atheist though to each as he is called, But that accusation of cannabalistic practice is wrong and many whom did not understand could not understand so to the atheists it is a cult of delusional people enacting a cannibal ceremony and they are so very wrong about that.
There are a number of possible locations of lost christian texts including the archives beneath San Sophia which is now a mosque and a museum, Egypts coots may have a number of appocryphal texts they feel are to be kept until god ordain's that they should be revealed, The book of Enoth was recovered from the Ethiopian orthodox church and they may have other's as well as from the Qumran and Nag hammaddi site's but though passages may have been taken or deliberately reinterpreted the living word's of christ have not been lost.




posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:00 AM
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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

One of the things that is essential to understand how it is possible that a vission got by a group of children, in the early 1960s, can be directly related with the events we are witnessing right now, concerning the so grave crisis of Ukraine, is to discuss the role of change of perception of time along life.

Perception of time is a quite fundamental aspect of the mystery around why some people claim that visions don't accomplish at all but other instead see with entire clarity that there was indeed a prophetic experience of the past related with a fact that occured at some point after it.

When the human beings grow, their impression, the subjective perception, of time also changes. A year is not perceived in exactly the same way by a person of just 5 years of age, by a person of 15 years of age, by a person of 30 years of age and by one of 90 years of age. People that are younger perceive a year as relatively longer period of time than people that is several times older, since we use to analyze time from our own perspective, from our one life span along time frame.

For that reason, there were many people expecting in between 1961 and 1965, that was the epoch these visions occured, that they were going to be accomplished in about just few years of that period. This situation came from the fact that the seers themselves were interrogated about dates ,at that specific point of their lives, also somehow autosuggested that they were going to see soon after the facts that were predicted to them: The great warning, The great Miracle and the Great Chastisement. This was determined by their own ages, they were just children arriving to puverty, and so they didnt have any possibility to understand what is to wait 15, 30 or 60 years to see something occurring.

it took more than 20 years to see already accomplished in its full extension the first part of the Fatima message, and we are still living in the time in which the Third part of the message, that remained in secret for many years, is going to be accomplished.

Here some links that refer to changes in perception of time along life:

www.ted.com...

www.cultivatingheroes.com...


Now, also the pace of daily life is very important into determine what is our perception of time. American style of Life is extremely fast, we have accostumed ourselves to live in an almost permanent hurry, traveling great distance daily, trying to extend at maximum our productivity of just one day, that this also make us think that a year is really longer than it actually is or a decade as an extremely long period of time, because we live thinking in immediacy, in that every minute counts as vital. In other words the modern life style of life has conditioned our minds to expect prophecies being fulfilled like the weather forecasts we find in Internet.

www.wisegeek.com...

Now, in Biblical aspects this topic it also explained in the scriptures to prevent us think that God has the same perception of time we have. Imagine what can be the perception of time of a being or intelligence that is practicaly eternal? how that super concious can perceive the length of one of our terrestrial Years?



2 Peter 3:8

New International Version (NIV)

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day




Psalm 90:4 ►

New International Version
A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night




Psalm 39:5
You have made my days a mere handbreadth; the span of my years is as nothing before you. Everyone is but a breath, even those who seem secure.


When a seer has a vission he or she has synchronized its subconcious mind, at least temporally, with the Collective inconscient, with the universal mind, in other words with what we call God, and so, its perception of time in that prophetic experience is dramatically different than the one of the ordinary human condition.

In this way it is understandable that the children of Fatima in 1916 were able to foresee the future Soviet Union spreading ateism around the world,that Jeanne Dixon got being in prayer a vision in 1956 of the death of JFK in 1963, Edgar Cayce saw in the early 1930s the death of President FDR being in office in 1945, or the Children of Medjugorje were able to see the time of the war in Yugoslavia and the one after it, in the same way the Children of Garabandal were perfectly able to see our time, as it might be next to theirs.


Let me finish this reply by pointing out that also Prayer, as a form of meditation changes perception of time, and there are studies that have been done to prove that. All the visions I have mentioned above were in one or other way received being in some kind of meditative state.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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I predict the star we call the "Sun" is going to die.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

New events are showing that, as it was predicted to occur in multiple prophetic visions that are mentioned in this thread, Russia is taking active part in the crisis of Ukraine, decided to deffend its national security at any cost of the political revolution in Ukraine of this last weekend, that is moving the neighbor country toward European and Nato spheres of influence.

Russia has called the international community to reject the new provisional government in Kiev as illegitimic being fruit of a coup d'etat to break the constitutional order in Ukraine.

Russia has launched military operations inside Crimea and also around the borders with Ukraine to assure the protection of its interests in Ukraine.


news.sky.com...

Here is the more detailed report of the military exercises in the Black sea Russian fleet base in Simferopol, Crimea,

www.nytimes.com...


This is the report of massive military exercises of Russian troops in western Rodinia,

news.yahoo.com...

Now, The constitutional President of Ukraine , Mr Viktor Yanukovych , is hosted in a Hospital in Moscow where he is receiving medical attention after to have escaped from Kiev in the middle of terrible riots and confromtations among rebels and goverment forces.

news.yahoo.com...

President of Russia Vladimir Putin has now in his hands all the cards of the deck that he needed to assure success to an eventual military intervention of his country to try to stop the civil war in Ukraine and find the way to restore the constitutional President Mr Viktor Yanukovych in the Power.

Of course Putins decission to mobilize 150000 soldiers to the borders with Ukraine is a clear message that he is decided to ignore the warnings of United States and to go ahead in a military campaign into the neighbor country.


en.tempo.co...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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European war that will confront Russia, with Germany

Please no, I don't want war in my country. And I bet we would get blamed for it in the long run.



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 07:08 PM
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Hi Dear Alleks,

I don't blame you to be afraid of the consequences in the long run of this imminent war. A war like this one, that seems to
be starting, as a consequence of the crisis in Ukraine and the pushing for the control of that country in between Russia, Europa and
USA, will be of scale never before seen by humanity.

We are facing the possibility to have a conflict in which It is likely the use of nuclear arsenals. Ukraine has a terrible precedent
dealing with the consequence of an atomic explosion.

This is the only European country that experienced the devastating effect of
radioactivity in 1980s, when the reactor of Chernobyl became out of control and enter in chain reaction releasing the worst atomic blast
ever experienced in dense populated regions, only comparable to what happened in Japan in 1945 or with the earthquake in that country in 2011.

www.world-nuclear.org...

What countries are the ones that have nuclear capability to be used in an European generalized conflict?:

Britain, France and Russia are the countries equipped with nuclear heads mounted on missiles , but Belgium, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands store nuclear bombs on their air-force bases and have planes capable of delivering them.

Read more: Europe's Secret Nuclear Weapons: What Should NATO Do? - TIME content.time.com...

The parallelisms in between the situation of an Ukraine in civil war and possibly affronting an invasion of Russia in next days with respect to the way the two world wars started in the past is scaring.

WWI began in July of 1914, when the Austrian-Hungarian Empire attacked Serbia, few years after they also annexed the region of Bosnia-Herzegovina (October 1908), as a consequence of the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo.


www.firstworldwar.com...

www.firstworldwar.com...

WWII began when the third German Reich invaded Poland in September 1st of 1939. This happened a little after Germany had annexed the region of Sudetes from Czechoslovakia(September 1938) and Austria (March of 1938).

www.britannica.com...

history1900s.about.com...


We have seen how Russia has launched military operations just few years ago in the Caucasus not only to suffocate the rebellion in Chenya and Dagestan, but also as an intervention on the war in Between Georgia and the rebel republics of Abkhazia and Osetia.

en.wikipedia.org...


Is WWIII be triggered with the military actions that Russia might perform in support to the regime of President Viktor Yanukovych ?

Today the President from his exile in Russia has declared himself as the legitimate leader of Ukraine.

online.wsj.com... 2702304255604579408552842423072.html




Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:03 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

While in Simferopol, Crimea, The Russian Fleet in the Black sea begins its military exercises, it is interesting to recall a very enigmatic quatrain of Mitchel of Nostradamus that seems to predict precisely that event.


From beyond the Black Sea and great Tartary,
There will be a King who will come to see Gaul,
He will pierce through "Alania" and Armenia,
And within Byzantium will he leave his bloody rod.
(Century V, Quatrain 54)

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please read :

prophecyinthemaking.blogspot.com...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness



posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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The Ukraine crisis turning into ww3 maybe.

But i think the international community may come to an agreement. Maybe that agreement may split the country into two. Who knows.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 01:18 AM
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Same old politics, bluff and fold.



posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 07:50 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,


Well, as it was correctly predicted in this thread, finally Russia today decided to invade Crimea, so there is no longer speculations around the beginning of an international conflict in Ukraine, one that promise to be one of the most challenging for the world.

news.yahoo.com...

Today Russia, once more in History, has taken the initiative into go head in a Mega international conflict, as it happened in September of 1914, to start WWI, when it decided to mobilize its troops against the Austrian-Hungarian empire ones, in defense of Serbia, and in September of 1945 , to start WWII, when joined with German forces to invade Poland.

Once more too, we see how President Obama launch a warning that of course is going to be ignored by Putin, as all the previous ones, to stop the attack:

www.ft.com...

www.cnbc.com...

The so called provisional government of Ukraine has reacted immediatly to denounce the violation of its national sovereignity in Crimea:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am so sorry to say this, but it is likely that we are witnessing what in the future the History books will call the starting date of WWIII.

The great Chastisement predicted on the Garabandal visions in the early 1960s is now clearly arriving to humanity.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness
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posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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Well, as it was correctly predicted in this thread,

I kind of got the idea you were saying those girls in Garabandal who you say had "visions" predicted WWIII. Those little girls from Garabandal has been the discussion of this thread.



Will be Ukraine Civil War the very last trigger of WWIII? Is this the accomplishment of Garabandal?




According with Garabandal accounts an Astronomical event,a so rare phenomenon, will be the signal, visible in the heaven of almost the entire world, of the arrival of another great war for humanity, very likely as it happened in 1914, when also comets and blood moons were seen before the starting of world war I.



This war (WWIII--added by me to clarify) was announced by the apparition of the Holy Virgin St Mary in Garabandal, when she said that there will be a Great warning and Miracles preceding the devastating calamity to come.


Where is the astronomical event that almost the entire world is supposed to see?
Where is this "Great warning", and where are the "Miracles"??

The other things in your OP were pretty easy to see coming. Ukraine protests and revolts (that had been going on for months) ends up like ALL the other protests of the Arab Spring that resulted in the toppling of the government rulers -- and of course Russia says no.

I fail to see all the other things I quoted above happening -- no supposed "vision" being fulfilled, no miracles happening, no Great warning, no astronomical event witnessed by "almost" the entire world.



posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

Let me go in details of how we were arrived gradually to this so crucial stage of the war that might represent a very probable accomplishment of the great Chastisement, announced by the Holy Virgin Mary to the children of Garabandal, Spain, in between 1961 and 1965.

The great warning was announced to happen before as a kind of astronomical event that might be either seen or felt in all around the world.

We have experience in December of 2012 an astronomical event that affected the entire world, it was the alignment of our sun with the center of the Galaxy. That event was also announced by the ancient Mayas to occur in our epoch since centuries of years ago, and moreover , to be a signal of a great change to come for humanity, a turning point in History and in particular for our civilization.

www.ancient-world-mysteries.com...

I was since months before that date of December 22nd 2012 clearly saying in my threads that we were not going to expect a Dooms day, that it was an event that was used by ancient astrologers to refer facts that were going to occur in our planet at the same epoch.

After the Galactic Alignment, that is linked with what in Ancient astronomy used to be called the Great Year,

www.youtube.com...

we saw two astronomical events happening almost in parallel, one asteroid of important magnitude that approached the earth and that at the very last moment deviated in to the outer space, February 15th 2013,

earthsky.org...

and just with hours of difference there was another one of smaller size, but anyway of enough mass to produce a powerful explosion that was dozens of miles from the place it actually exploded.

www.youtube.com...

The impact of this last event over Siberia was of course known by the entire world thanks to the modern technology of telecommunications that made possible to almost everyone to watch the videos of this bolide entering in the atmosphere and latterly the powerful explosion it caused, in just hours.

On February 24th 2014, about a year after the double asteroid event already referred, an asteroid struck the moon giving a formidable spectacle to astronomers of all around the world.

www.youtube.com...

Now, if these were events that might be interpreted as the great Warning, there can be in the future something similar that would be what they were warned on, isn't it? The interesting point here is that the war that we are witnessing is precisely occurring with Russia as a protagonist, the same country where the asteroid exploded on. Taking in account that this planet has about more than 195 independent countries that is indeed a great coincidence, a double event occurring with a probability of 1/195.

www.state.gov...

The War is of course a terrible menace, although we still don't know if this conflict that seems really so bad by today, when Ukraine first time in History has declared war against Russia, is going to be escalated at world wide proportions.

www.cnn.com...

So, lets see if the great Miracle is that somebody, somewhere can put all the parts of this crisis together to dialog and find an agreement of Peace that end the hostilities, before this send all of us to a possible nuclear Armageddon. Perhaps an opportune intervention of the General Secretary of the UN or of the Pope or even of a Pope Emeritus could stop the world war.


from the Prophecies of Pope John XXIII, compiled by Pier Carpi, 1976.

Grande lampo a Oriente. Non ne udrete il tuono, anch'esso sarà improvviso.
Questo accadrà quando a Oriente sarà morto un capo e a Occidente sarà ucciso un capo. A sud di Lutero.
Rifiutate gli assassini che si presenteranno, rifiutate quelli che verranno presentati. Gli assassini sono in Europa. Vogliono il Mediterraneo. Poi ci sarà il delitto senza assassini. Il tempo ha covato una mente torbida, all'ombra della croce rossa e nera, a tutti sconosciuta, figlia dei latitanti a Norimberga.
Essa ha ordito il delitto su se stessa. C'è chi rinuncia alla vita, per amore del male. La terra sfiorerà H massacro. Uno morirà per tutti e sarà il più buono.
Non è tempo di re, non lo è mai stato. Dalla morte di Federico, ogni re è usurpatore. Se ne vada il re, resti il popolo. L'Europa ha sete, avrà sangue nelle strade.
Ma anche grandi processioni e la Beata Vergine scenderà in terra. Non la vedrete nella grotta, ma in un cuore che rivivrà. Dalle tenebre porterà una parola che tutti capiranno. È tempo delle lettere..


If that is the case, and the world will be saved in the very last moment of to go into a nuclear cataclysm, boosted by this war among Ukrainians and Russians, then what can be the great Chastisement?

Well, perhaps will be another Great Recession that is always a possibility in our time, specially by seeing what is going on with the world economy in different countries, or another natural devastating event, for instance, lets check what else is coming soon in direction to our planet in the sky:

www.youtube.com...

I would prefer anyway to see that the 4 blood moons we are going to see drive millions of people in to fervent prayer as the great Miracle, or an opportune diplomatic action that stops the war in Ukraine, than to be confronted with a devastating WWIII collapsing our civlization, but anyway is not pleasant to think in the possibility of the collective panic that a powerful collision with a rock coming at supersonic speed from the outer space can cause, that general hysteria can be also a terrible scenario for the accomplishment of the great chastisement.

www.youtube.com...

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness


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posted on Mar, 2 2014 @ 09:07 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

For the ones of you that don't speak Italian, this is the translation of the Rosicrucian quatrains coming from what it is believed were actual Prophecies of HH Pope John XXIII, supposed written by him when young and being member of that esoteric society, these were compiled by the Italian journalist Pier Carpi in 1976.


Grande lampo a Oriente. Non ne udrete il tuono, anch'esso sarà improvviso.
Questo accadrà quando a Oriente sarà morto un capo e a Occidente sarà ucciso un capo. A sud di Lutero.
Rifiutate gli assassini che si presenteranno, rifiutate quelli che verranno presentati. Gli assassini sono in Europa. Vogliono il Mediterraneo. Poi ci sarà il delitto senza assassini. Il tempo ha covato una mente torbida, all'ombra della croce rossa e nera, a tutti sconosciuta, figlia dei latitanti a Norimberga./
Great lightning to the East. We will not hear the thunder, it too will be sudden. This will happen when in the East will be a dead head and to the West will be killed a head. To the south of Luther. Rejected the murderers who will occur, rejected those that will be presented. The murderers are in Europe. They want the Mediterranean. Then there will be the crime without murderers. The time has sat a mind cloudy, in the shadow of the cross red and black, all unknown, daughter of the fugitives in Nuremberg.
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This quatrain says to us that an unexpected terrible action will occur somewhere in the east. Now, usually the seer in these writings call China and Russia by their own actual names, so we could expect that these facts should be related with a country somewhere in the borders of any of these two nations( Ukraine?).

This might occur in the same epoch that two leaders would have died , one in the west and other in the east, the one in the west it would be said to be a victim of assassination ( Hugo Chavez?, that is what Nicolas Maduro claims, that his predecessor was poisoned in some way by CIA)

articles.chicagotribune.com...

and the one in the east would die of natural causes ( Ariel Sharon? He died recently after a very long coma of 8 years.)


www.jpost.com...


Essa ha ordito il delitto su se stessa. C'è chi rinuncia alla vita, per amore del male. La terra sfiorerà H massacro. Uno morirà per tutti e sarà il più buono.
Non è tempo di re, non lo è mai stato. Dalla morte di Federico, ogni re è usurpatore. Se ne vada il re, resti il popolo. L'Europa ha sete, avrà sangue nelle strade.
Ma anche grandi processioni e la Beata Vergine scenderà in terra. Non la vedrete nella grotta, ma in un cuore che rivivrà. Dalle tenebre porterà una parola che tutti capiranno. È tempo delle lettere.
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It has warp the crime on itself. There are those who surrender to life, for love of evil. The earth will no doubt seems to approach Horrendus massacre. However, One shall die for all and will be the most good.

This is not time to a king, it never was. From the death of Frederick, each king and usurper. Let the king to , and remains the people. Europe has thirst, will have blood in the streets. But even large processions and the Blessed Virgin has come to earth. Not the you will see in the cave, but in a heart that relives. From darkness lead a word that everyone will understand.



These quatrains also warns us that this would occur in a time in which an European King will lose his throne ( perhaps King Juan Carlos of Spain? or incoming King Charles III of England? two abdications that are highly expected to occur. ) and Europe will have riots in the streets, people protesting to the current economic world order, something that anyway has already occurred since the previous year in Greece, Turkey and Cyprus.

Also it says us that the devotion for the Holy Mother of God Virgin Mary will cause great processions around the world and this from visions, somebody might see the Holy mother here in Earth, was this perhaps Garabandal? Conyers? Egypt?

Thanks for your attention,


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posted on Mar, 3 2014 @ 03:01 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

It is worrying to see how either the United States and Russia both are radicalizing their verbal attacks about the intentions of each one on this crisis. This does not seem to be the most diplomatic way to try to fix differences and arrive to climate of dialog. President Obama has accused Russia in the last hours to be in the Wrong side of History, a so much strong expression, that of course is just adding more logs to the fire.

yahoonews.tumblr.com...

Now, from the other side President Putin has completely insulted any good intention in the provisional government of Ukraine, closing in that way of course any opportunity of dialog.

www.nbcnews.com...

Now, I still think that only by trying to put each one in the shoes of the other is that this crisis can be surpassed, but it is quite interesting to see that this last comment of Putin points precisely to what it is said in one of the Rosicrucian quatrains I disclosed in my last posts, that apparently who is in behind this arise of the Ukrainian Nationalism, might be really neo Nazi groups.


www.globalpost.com...

www.thedailybeast.com...

america.aljazeera.com...


From the Prophecies of HH Pope John XXIII, compiled by Pier Carpi, 1976. Rejected the murderers who will occur, rejected those that will be presented. The murderers are in Europe. They want the Mediterranean. Then there will be the crime without murderers. The time has sat a mind cloudy, in the shadow of the cross red and black, all unknown, daughter of the fugitives in Nuremberg.


It is important to recall that Ukraine Nationalists fought in WWII precisely in the Nazi Side, so this drives me to wonder if America is really choosing the right side in this conflict? Is it true that Russia is in the wrong side of History? Seems that it is just a words game, but in the deep end is interesting to explore what can be the truly intentions in behind every action.

news.yahoo.com...


I sincerely hope that the American government is really picking up the correct side on this problem, since what happened in Benghazi seemed to be the result of to have chosen very dangerous friends as potential allies.



If that might be the case, I am not assuring that necessarily indeed it is, would be not the first time in History that the US diplomacy pact with the devil's side, after all Osama Bin Laden was a powerful Ally against The Soviet Union, Saddam Hussein was too against the Ayatollah Khomeini and Joseph Stalin was a formidable associate in the fight against Hitler.


What do you think? it is President Obama completely in the right side of History, or is it President Putin not really exaggerating at all? Or ,as it use to be both sides have just only part of the truth in their claims?


Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness




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posted on Mar, 5 2014 @ 09:28 AM
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Russia or rather Putin and the clique he is a party to have a long term plan and it has been literally decade's in the making, with the supposed end of the cold war every one breathed a sigh of relief, the right wing in the west started to reopress the working class and look after only the wealthiest first while extoling the virtues of foreign workers whom work for very little while forcing the native workers out of there job's as they demanded wages they could actually live on and this was in opposition to the previous policy of the ruling elite whom during the communist period of high tension and core belief oppostion saw it as in there interests to make certain that there was no strong socialist empathy for the soviet system by ensuring the people of those western nation whom bordered the soviet union had good lives even though this meant some part of there governance followed socialist doctrine to ensure this, state pensions, government regulated and subsidised transport and industry (to ensure mass employment), safety nets to counter economic downturn's and state owned or regulated utilitys such as water and energy.
With the downfall of the oppressive comunists system they no longer saw the need to maintain this charade of decency as there was now no major oppositon to there own attitude's and they decided to burn the assets to fund short term economic explosions but long term partition of wealth and assets back into the hands and control of a very small minority of new barons along with the reinstating of the class master servant philosophy which would begin with private land lords and the removal of state/nation owned housing and healthcare and the removal of pension systems and benefits to ensure the serf class had to beg for there money and work whatever mean's there masters would give them to work.

Now how long has this plan been in effect, Putin is not the real leader but he is the Titular leader nevertheless but seem's to be playing out part of a long term commital and possible return to a more chinese style of government dictatorship which also entails the house arrest of his opponent's in Russian and now the annexation of the Crimea.

ncoic.com...



posted on Mar, 18 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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Hi Dear Labtech,

Well, we have seen along the last three days that the facts are matching perfectly with what it was announced to happen to our generation since the 1960s, through the mystery of Garabandal, or since the 1930s, through the visions got by HH Pope John XXIII in the prophecies that are attributed to him by Pier Carpi, and that supposedly were kept by the Rosicrucian order.

Of course in those accounts these facts were predicted without entering in details of names of places, exact dates and names of leaders involved on them, but we have seen that after the great warning that the asteroids that crossed the earth orbit, the one that exploited over Siberia, the one that pass so close to our planet, and the one that impacted the moon, and the so wild winter, we have experienced in this season, we are in the middle of the worst crisis of international security since the one of 1962 of the soviet missiles in Cuba.

Here the official speech of Vladimir Putin announcing today the annexion of Crimea to Russia, defying Ukraine and the EU and USA:

www.nytimes.com...

Thanks for your very interesting comments,

The Angel of Lightness



posted on Mar, 19 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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FlyersFan

greavsie1971
What is garabandal?


It's a HOAX from the 1960s .. out of Spain. They later admitted it was a hoax. One has since died.

ETA ... here - ATS Quick Guide to Modern False Apparitions and False Seers I made this a while back for quick reference. Garbandal is there ...


So to answer the OPs question ... no, nothing happening in the world today has anything to do with Garbandal because .. it's an admitted hoax.

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They were trying to be special like the kids from the warnings in Fatima, Portugal by the virgin Mary of a coming world war. In typical fashion we all seen how the Vatican is trying to BS all of us into thinking the last and final warning was that of Pope John Paul getting shot in Mexico. That one ya know has to be real when doctors stuck long needles in their eyes when they were in ecstasy with Mary herself and the kids did not even flinch let alone them slamming their knees on the brick roads as they fell into prayer with so much force they would have had broken knee balls if it were not a divine meeting. Not to mention hundreds of people witnessing the final meeting where Mary promised the kids that she would show the town a miracle to prove they were not making any of it up.



posted on Mar, 23 2014 @ 02:37 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Patriotsrevenge,

I agree with you in the fact that there were inside the Vatican city people that misleaded the entire church to believe that the third secret of Fatima was already surpassed, that it was accomplished fully in the attempt of assassination against HH Pope John Paul II.

Now, it seems the major responsibility in this huge mistake was of Monsignor Cardenal Sodano, State secretary of the Holy see. Even the Pope emeritus, Joseph Ratzinger, in some occasions has openly expressed that he disagree in to accept such a theory, that he was opposed to declare the third secret already accomplished.

www.salvemariaregina.info...

The third secret is an extremely important and complex issue, it involves not only the possible assassination of a Pope, but an entire Apostasy happening in the most important spheres of the Church, although not involved all of them, in moments in which the world is entering in the final phase of the battle in between the evil and good, in between Satan and God.

The point is that while certain sectors of the Church see with clarity that the attempt of assassination of May 1981 by the Turkish spy Mehmed Ali Agca, was part of that secret, they tried to reduce or even ignore the weight in that same secret of the mysterious death of HH Pope John Paul I, in September of 1978, just only one month after he ascended to the Throne of St Peter.


www.tldm.org...

Also it has been omitted of that interpretation the second attempt of assassination against HH Pope John Paul II, happened in Spain, and not by spies of the Soviet Union, but by one Spanish priest that might be implied in revel sectors of the church, what suggest clearly an apostasy occurring in the very inside of it.

As far as I can see in this issue, a conspiracy occurred as a consequence of freemasons already infiltered in the Church, after the aperture of Vatican II council, is in behind some of these facts, as well as schismatic movements like the so called Liberation theology that began in Brazil and was spread toward other countries of Latin America, with clear ties with communism.

even it is said that there are two very different texts supposedly about the third secret, so which one is the authentic and which one is false?

www.devilsfinalbattle.com...


Also, the present attitude of the respective Bishops to retire any official support to visions that for years were considered as authentic, as it is the case of Garabandal, Medjugorge and Conyers is also part of that Plot that sadly is occurring the very inside the Church.

Even Guadalupe that is perhaps the greatest Marian apparition of all the times in the Americas, aside of Fatima or Lourdes, was in risk to be reduced to a myth, when the Abbott of the Basilica in Mexico, as part of that same conspiracy, tried to expose it falsely as a hoax, before to be excommunicated by HH Pope John Paul II.

It is interesting to recall that Mexico is a country that was controlled politically by the free masons along the major part of its History as an independent country.

That is one of the most important issues that HH Pope Francis I must try to repair if he wants to really restore credibility to the Catholic Hierarchy.


Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness




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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 08:30 AM
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One of the Reasons I like the Ideal's of the original Rosicrution order though they are sophist and gnostic is that they swore an oath to fight against satan in life and if possible in death, in the 1700's there oath was supposedly adopted by bavarian masons after a rosicrution chapter broke and merged with a masonic and merchants guild (though the current masonic oath bear's absolutely no similarity except for the fidelity to the brother's of there order).
Sadly we have seen how the Masons walk the opposite side of the road but that is a much different subject so lets leave the luciferian's for now.
One thing I do know on the cross christ made our lady our mother by saying to his beloved apostle "Behold your mother" and to his mother "Behold your son", as the apostle was the beloved apostle or the archtypal christian which we should be trying to emulate (though I for myself can say seldom am even though I try).
He gave his life for us, his mother had to suffer seeing that done to her beloved son and we though unworthy are her adopted children so as his mother she can ask him on our behalf.
This was christian tradition from long before the bible was compiled and is common to all early churches (The Gnostic and sophist churches being partially the exception but they tend from the third century onward so are later).
What she say's often come's true but unlike prophecy from God she provides warning's with the chance to turn aside from the destruction which sadly the church and the people often do not heed.
I definitely believe in god though I am constantly asking him in myself Why?, I definitely believe in christ and I know she is there as well.
Peace and god keep you and yours safe and thank you for blessing everyone when you make your comment's and posts.

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