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Something like polio...? Scary

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posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 04:53 PM
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I didn't see this under Health & Wellness or the Medical Conspiracy forums...


www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/polio-illness-paral yzes-5-kids-california-n34981

Some mysterious "polio-like" illness but not polio per se.

I don't know why, but when I read this, it really concerned me. Could you imagine the horror of an illness similar to polio sweeping across the country.




posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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... next what we will hear will be "Polio-Like" vaccine will pop up...
more money will be made...



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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five children in that state in a single year.... sounds scary?
what about thousands deaths in same place for other reasons?
just asking. do those thousands count to? or not now?



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 05:27 PM
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I agree - it's hard to say whether such an illness is natural or man-made, with a vaccine being a blessing against a terrible naturally occurring illness or an excuse to vaccinate with lord knows what in it for who knows what purpose.

Am hoping it is just an anomaly that isn't going to turn into a huge health threat.



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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there is no terrible naturally occurring "new" illness... only "new" terrible naturally occurring news to scare You are having good time...



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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ZakOlongapo
five children in that state in a single year.... sounds scary?
what about thousands deaths in same place for other reasons?
just asking. do those thousands count to? or not now?


I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned "New polio like vaccine"



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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DP
edit on 23-2-2014 by VoidHawk because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 24 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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ZakOlongapo
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there is no terrible naturally occurring "new" illness... only "new" terrible naturally occurring news to scare You are having good time...


It's a damn good thing we have experts like you around here to calm us and reassure us that it's no big deal when a new virus pops up and paralyzes 25 school children. I feel so much better now.



posted on Feb, 24 2014 @ 09:53 PM
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I would not be surprised if the polio like symptoms are caused by all the aspartame in diet cola, and food....or mom santos poison food, or the flu shots that are bad....just my opinion...I wish these kids well and speedy recoveries...it's not fair for children to be ill.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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As a Mom, this is very worrisome to me. Apparently more kids have been impacted?

My questions..why kids, why that area?

If it's new, wouldn't adults be impacted? And just that area...does that imply an environmental connection?



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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i wonder if all the kids affected by this "polio" like virous were given "flu" shots prior to developing the symptoms?. The TPTB would throw out a new/altered strain out there just for the hell of it. wasnt aids/hiv first reported in the Bay Area? i just hope im wrong.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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I saw it on the mainstream news tonight as well...I wonder about the location (California), but they are now saying that it's in Australia and Asia??? Could be a bad batch of polio vaccines? Or environmental? Or flu shots as you mention, gone awry?

Whatever the cause, sinister or just nature, I hope they figure it out and can prevent paralysis in other kids.



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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The age range may rule out vaccines though right? ......ages 2 to 16?



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 09:37 PM
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www.activistpost.com...


“All children presented with acute flaccid paralysis of one or more limbs that reached peak severity within 48 hours of onset. [1] Furthermore, “All had been previously vaccinated against polio-virus.” [2] That is a key concern – vaccinated against polio.




What the Abstract authors may not know is that 47,500 cases of vaccine-induced polio paralysis followed an oral polio vaccination campaign conducted by the GAVI Alliance, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and the World Health Organization (WHO) in India in 2011.


The National Polio Surveillance Project [India] data show that the polio eradication program has increased paralysis among children—from 3,047 cases yearly in 1997 to 61,038 cases in 2012, most now being classified as AFP [acute flaccid paralysis] instead of polio. The Government does not reveal how many of these cases are due to the vaccine. It was observed in 2005 that, against 66 cases of polio caused by the wild polio virus that year, 1,645 were caused by the vaccine. Data reveals that those vaccinated are 6.26 times more likely to be paralyzed.


Is the above link anti vaccination or just what has been going on ?



posted on Feb, 25 2014 @ 11:14 PM
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Rezlooper
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It's a damn good thing we have experts like you around here to calm us and reassure us that it's no big deal when a new virus pops up and paralyzes 25 school children. I feel so much better now.


^^ OH! - He just got you, bro! Haha!

: roll :

_________


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Thanks for posting, OP. S&F!

I will Be keeping an Eye on this.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 01:17 AM
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727Sky
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www.activistpost.com...

Is the above link anti vaccination or just what has been going on ?



I think that article has a fairly clear anti-vaccine slant to it, no doubts there, but the information it presents is probably reasonably accurate.

1. The fact that the California kids were vaccinated against polio is more relevant to supporting that they do not have polio, but instead a related virus that can also cause paralysis.

2. Oral polio vaccine is well-known to cause paralytic polio in a very small percentage of people administered the vaccine (1 in 750,000 acording the Wikipedia article). This risk is acceptable when you've got high levels of naturally occurring polio, but it becomes an issue when the naturally occurring infection rate is low. This is a major reason the US now uses only the injectable version, as it poses no risk of causing polio and we have not had a polio outbreak since 1979.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 10:48 AM
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That was my first concern, not enough info and we will never really know as will will go undercover, but was it due to a bad batch? IF the children had NOT been vaccinated, it is most probable that that info would be msm viral.
edit on am228amWed, 26 Feb 2014 10:49:38 -0600 by antar because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 10:53 AM
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Bookmarked... AFP. An important read, worthy of its own thread, hopefully someone like Soficrow can study and then break it down in lamans term for us to read and discuss?



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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Will Flag this thread for the important subject matter but OP you will have to do more than waste bandwidth when you start something this big.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 06:46 PM
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I apologize, am not sure what is proper form for sharing excerpts from a news article.

This is an excerpt from yesterday's CNN.com article about the enterovirus that provides some clarity around what they are and how they affect people differently....

And here's the link to the full article:
www.cnn.com/2014/02/25/health/california-mystery-disease/


"Poliovirus is part of the Picornaviridae family, which also includes enteroviruses and rhinoviruses (better known as the common cold). There are more than 100 types of enterovirus that cause 10 million to 15 million infections in the United States each year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Most people who become infected with an enterovirus do not get sick or experience only mild symptoms, said Dr. Steven Oberste, chief of the Polio and Picornavirus Laboratory Branch at the CDC. Common symptoms include fever, runny nose, cough, skin rash and body aches.
Enterovirus is often the cause of "summer colds," whose cases spike in July, August and September. Children and teens are more likely to fall ill because they have not yet built up immunity to these common viruses.

However, some types of enterovirus are more serious. These can cause hand, foot and mouth disease; viral meningitis; encephalitis (inflammation of the brain); an infection of the heart; and paralysis in some patients.

Enterovirus 68 was first identified in a California lab in 1962 after four children came down with a severe respiratory illness. Between 1970 and 2005, only 26 cases of enterovirus 68 in the United States were reported to the CDC. Since 2000, the government agency has kept a closer watch and has seen 47 cases, Oberste said. Outbreaks have occurred over the years in Asia and Europe, but it's still one of the rarest types of enterovirus.

More common -- and more concerning to health officials -- is enterovirus 71, which was discovered by the same California lab in 1969, Oberste said. Enterovirus 71 is usually associated with severe neurological issues, including aseptic meningitis, polio-like paralysis and encephalitis. Waubant is not sure if the samples from this latest group of patients were tested for enterovirus 71.

According to a CDC report, several outbreaks of paralysis caused by enterovirus 71 were seen in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s. In the late 1990s and early 2000s, fatal encephalitis was a big problem in Malaysia and Taiwan.

"Ever since then, the virus has circulated in high levels in Southeast Asia," Oberste said.

In recent years, the outbreaks have spread to Australia; a cluster of cases near Sydney drew media attention in 2013.
Between 1983 and 2005, 270 cases of enterovirus 71 were reported in the United States. But none has resulted in a larger outbreak despite the infectious nature of the virus.

"That's the really odd thing," Oberste said. "We see cases from time to time in the United States. Occasionally they'll be severe. Basically it's identical to what's circulating in Asia ... but it doesn't cause the same big outbreak in disease. And we really don't know why."



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