Can Venezuela's socialist government survive wave of protests?

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posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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From CNN


The anti-government demonstrations are the biggest threat President Nicolas Maduro has faced since his election last year. And inside and outside the South American country's borders, there's a major question many are asking: Could this be the beginning of the end for Venezuela's socialist government?


In yet another Story. Venezuela: The Current Counter-Revolutionary Offensive and How to Deal With it

they talk about the recent campaign of rioting by protesters and harsh Reactionary reprisals by the government.

In the violence which followed 2 people were killed. An opposition youth, Bassil Da Costa as well as a revolutionary leader from the 23 de Enero neighbourhood, Juan Montoya. The media have presented Montoya as violent man, part of an armed group. This is false, as in fact he had participated in an initiative to disarm revolutionary groups in the 23 de Enero.

A member of the secret police SEBIN has been arrested in connection to these killings. The head of SEBIN has been removed by Maduro as they had been ordered to stay in barracks and disobeyed their orders.


the The images coming out Venezuela over the past few weeks have been stunning! Troops shooting, protesters hurling rocks, Molotov cocktails people bleeding, people dying.

A media blackout has stymied the flow of information during some of the most intense days of clashes between anti-government protesters but enough information is tricking out to give some idea of how brutal Maduro has been in his attempts to quash this upraising





Without backing from the Military the protesters don't stand a chance, so the only thing we can be sure of happening the price of gasoline will go up. Venezuela is after all a major oil producer and in an act of solidarity the state owned oil field workers has cut off the countries production, for now.
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posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 01:31 PM
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Not unless they declare martial law and remove the ability to vote.



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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They can survive and most likely they will, opposition is a joke in Venezuela and the government just need to unleash their paramilitary group to contain the more radical dissidents.

Haven said this, Maduro is really clueless and he can waste the structure that Chavez build. I say things will be more clear in 2 weeks, carnival is around the corner and that will cool down the protest



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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Great documentary on venezuela from a couple of years back called the revolution will not be televised, the elites are backed by the usa, they are mainly white european stock who have run the country for the last 100 years chavez took there ill gotten gains and dispersed it back to the majority, as of today there were bigger demonstrations throughout venezuela that were pro government and the anti government demos have ceased.......alot of the pictures shown on cnn have been proved to be false look it up, they have been using pictures from the brazilian riots from last year.



posted on Feb, 23 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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surfin4
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Great documentary on venezuela from a couple of years back called the revolution will not be televised, the elites are backed by the usa, they are mainly white european stock who have run the country for the last 100 years chavez took there ill gotten gains and dispersed it back to the majority, as of today there were bigger demonstrations throughout venezuela that were pro government and the anti government demos have ceased.......alot of the pictures shown on cnn have been proved to be false look it up, they have been using pictures from the brazilian riots from last year.


Not really 100% true that Chavez took all the ill gotten gain since many of them still had extreme wealth left when they left for US and some of them even stayed in Venezuela and complained about Chavez destroying their life in their mansions with a lot of private security. Also there where an private anti Chavez television channels that where trying to change the opinion in the country to the benefit of the people who had become wealthy from Venezuela:s natural resources while they people had very high poverty.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 02:21 AM
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Indigent
They can survive and most likely they will, opposition is a joke in Venezuela and the government just need to unleash their paramilitary group to contain the more radical dissidents.

Haven said this, Maduro is really clueless and he can waste the structure that Chavez build. I say things will be more clear in 2 weeks, carnival is around the corner and that will cool down the protest


Waste the structure Chavez built? What structure is that? How to destroy a country ? How to create bread lines? How to create criminal gangs to brutally attack your opposition? How many more socialist hell holes must we create to finally get the larger message that socialism never works and only creates misery?

Do we think that Obama will do socialism right in America? Economic theory is correct inasmuch as genuine free markets are always more efficient and create more prosperity than socialism can ever hope to achieve. Given the oft proven negative correlation between high taxes and government control, with actual government revenues, you'd think that socialists would have given up their state worshipping religion. Even the Chinese communists finally go this message.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:19 AM
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Little bit of the history…

36 years ago (when the sparks of the Islamic revolution started in Iran) everyone around the globe cheered the Islamic revolution and demonized the Pahlavi’s regime… until the revolution won!!

6 months into it .. Saddam forces attacked the Islamic Iran and everyone around the globe cheered Saddam and demonized the other!

As I see it today, there are no differences here; the only change applied here is the location. Scenario and tactics are the same as now happening in Ukraine or Venezuela or where ever..! One should open their eyes and see the patterns, focus on infamous and eternal questions like Cui bono.



posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 03:32 AM
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Yep how to destroy a country and keep the power, after 2002 he made sure all he did was in order to keep the power and it worked quite well until his death. This the structure I refer



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:34 AM
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Indigent
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Yep how to destroy a country and keep the power, after 2002 he made sure all he did was in order to keep the power and it worked quite well until his death. This the structure I refer


Ahh yes got it. The current president has destroyed any good will Chavez might have created with the people. Perhaps he failed in the charisma and bombast department. But really he is the unfortunate inevitable recipient of the destructive policies of his predecessor. The egg was dropped, no way to stop it from breaking.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:40 AM
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Indigent
They can survive and most likely they will, opposition is a joke in Venezuela and the government just need to unleash their paramilitary group to contain the more radical dissidents.

Haven said this, Maduro is really clueless and he can waste the structure that Chavez build. I say things will be more clear in 2 weeks, carnival is around the corner and that will cool down the protest


My wifes from Ecuador and she'll tell you, in South America they change presidents more times a year than they change their boxers..

Unless of course this is a "South American Spring"...and the CIA are going at seriously around the world at the same time...Maybe in Venezuela they're testing the water to see how Maduro reacts.
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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:49 AM
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I was born,raised and still live in Venezuela.
The propaganda machine is a joke,they post fake images,they own 90% of the media,they make short films of wounded policemen and the private media does everything they say.They own every institution.

And i find it completely disrespectful to the memory of the 18 people killed by paramilitary troopers(trained by cubans and middle east terrorisr organizations) to say that the images are fake.Don't listen to the "anti-imperialist anti-capitalist revolutionary to the death" paid trolls who are probably eating chicken and typing on their iPads while the venezuelan people can't find basic foodstuffs or afford a decent living.

Social media is the tool of the free people, and this will be the death of the communist dictatorship that wants to rule forever.
The Venezuelan people are finally waking up, and no internet-troll,no photoshopped image of a beach full of visitors on carnival,and no amount of lies will be able to stop this. It's not opposition,it's not elites and definitely no government.
It's a RESISTANCE movement,lead by the people, not parties or CIA omnipotent spies.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 02:00 AM
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metodex

It's a RESISTANCE movement,lead by the people, not parties or CIA omnipotent spies.



No, really..what went down in the Ukraine wasn't either...you have something in common.

Somewhere, within the poor people on the street, or the resistence, as you put it there are people guaranteed, working for the CIA.
Everyday, these poeple are on the streets motivating everyone else. These are the people who eat chicken and use ipads, when they're at home.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 02:04 AM
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I forgot this is ATS.I can't type anything without some "Enlightened One"(illuminati) warning me about the omnipotent and omnipresent CIA and Bankers and everything.

Alright dude, you win, I'm the CIA in the street. Bye bye,need to kill some innocents,drink some blood and hate freedom for a second.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 02:22 AM
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metodex
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I forgot this is ATS.I can't type anything without some "Enlightened One"(illuminati) warning me about the omnipotent and omnipresent CIA and Bankers and everything.

Alright dude, you win, I'm the CIA in the street. Bye bye,need to kill some innocents,drink some blood and hate freedom for a second.


Ok...
I forgot, the Americans don't deal in regime changes these days.
And the fact that Venezuela is one of the major oil powers in the world wouldn't make you a target..

So..you just keep on, keepin' on watching your telenovelas, eating arepas and wait for a revolution that will make you all happy and equal...but wait sitting down. Nothing illuminated about that, is there..




posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 02:54 AM
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surfin4
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Great documentary on venezuela from a couple of years back called the revolution will not be televised, the elites are backed by the usa.


Dont say that here, speaking the obvious will get you labelled. Venezuelan oil and natural gas is calling certain fractions within the US.





 
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