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The real ones behind it all!!!

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posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 11:05 AM
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All the conspiracies, all the lies, all the wars, there all linked.

There all part of a plan by a small minority, not the NWO, not the illuminati, believe it or not, not even the American Government


Everything is controlled by some people behind the scenes who, now this bit seems stupid (which is what they want you to think) used to travel with aliens. OK here comes the explanation.
(deep breath)

When humans first started using primitive tools, aliens became interested (greys?) and took a "sample" of about 10,000. Of course they weren't exactly Homo Sapiens yet, but i'll just call them human. These humans were taught more about technology and evovled quicker (probably due to genetic engineering on the aliens part. Anyway human nature prevailed and they wanted to be more powerful than there mentors. The aliens seeing the humans as a threat returned the leaders of them to Earth with some limited technology to avoid a revolt by the rest of the humans.

These humans who were returned to Earth still wanted to have power and so using there technology installed themselves as Gods.

They sat on their thrones as gods until other religions they didn't start began to gain strength (the monetheistic religions). They then went in to hiding and tried to destroy evidence of themselves e.g. destroy there cities and technology so other humans couldn't use them. They hid in the underground cities that have been found around the globe.

When the other humans reached a suitable level of technology they began to slowly filter back in to society and gain access to places of power using their superior knowledge.
So this brings me to the present day where people challenge almost every idea put forward. So these humans don't allow themselves to be seen as figures of power but manipulate those in power to avoid detection.


The real ones behind it all Part 2



OK the Others (that's what I will call this society from now) control everything from behind the scenes and I don't mean they are in alliance with World leaders i mean they manipulate them to their own need

Now i bet your wondering how the (insert appropriate religious place of eternal damnation here) they do this. Well if they are the people writing the speeches and arranging the meetings then would't they be able to get someone to say the right thing in the wrong place and voila you have your war.

Don't forget these people have knowledge of technology that we couldn't even dream of. So why don't they use the technology against us. One reason adaptability. If the others did use their tech against us I'm sure we will be able to capture some of their technology and back engineer it. Don't forget the others are a minority.

So to reach their goal of being in command it would make sense for them to subtely destroy all nations that could pose a threat.

All the ideas about the Antichrist are warnings. The only difference is the Antichrist is one man wheras in reality there are probably around 100000 of them. Just remember that everythimg is linked in this theory. All you have to do is look hard enough.

Anyone who has anything to add to my theory, or even if you want to totally slam it then your free to your opinion.

No one will be silenced anymore!

[edit on 23-11-2004 by Iknowthelies]

[edit on 25-11-2004 by Iknowthelies]




posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 11:56 AM
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As if I'm reading Erich von Daaniken, word for word.

All very interesting and thought-provoking. Once we've actually seen the aliens part, your theory's golden.



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Iknowthelies
When humans first started using primitive tools, aliens became interested (greys?) and took a "sample" of about 10,000.

Er, what would one want to do with 10,000 homo habilii? Were there even that many?

These humans were taught more about technology and evovled quicker (probably due to genetic engineering on the aliens part.0

Alright uhm, why would being taught anything result in 'faster' evolution and why would genetic alteration result in gaining technological knowledge?

returned the leaders of them to Earth with some limited technology to avoid a revolt by the rest of the humans.

But then these captive humans would be completely different than the ape men that were running around.

These humans who were returned to Earth still wanted to have power and so using there technology installed themselves as Gods.

Where is the archaeological evidence for this technology?


They hid in the underground cities that have been found around the globe.

Why would they hide, why wouldn't they use their tech to destroy the rebellious ones? Why are the underground 'cities' that are being found not particularly old or when they are old why are they so 'primitive', ie like the above ground cities of the time?


When the other humans reached a suitable level of technology they began to slowly filter back in to society and gain access to places of power using their superior knowledge.

When was this? Why would they hide and then return? If anything things are more difficult for them now after remaining underground for such a long time. And you are saying that there are entire cities worth of them all across the planet, no one noticed them comming out of the ground? How did they monitor everything and communicate with one another to coordinate their return?









they are the people writing the speeches and arranging the meetings then would't they be able to get someone to say the right thing in the wrong place and voila you have your war.

You are saying that the planet is run by presidential speech writers??? Actually, I would agree that pat buchannon might be an alien made mutant.


. If the others did use their tech against us I'm sure we will be able to capture some of their technology and back engineer it.

So? Either they have and use a tech advantage or they don't. Not using it is the same as using it and loosing it.

So to reach their goal of being in command it would make sense for them to subtely destroy all nations that could pose a threat.


All you have to do is look hard enough.

If one looks hard enough for a pattern and system one will probably find it, irregardless of whether its actually there or not.


Anyone who has anything to add to my theory, or even if you want to totally slam it then your free to your opinion.

What evidence backs it up? What I mean is, why is it more true than any other conspiracy theory, what allows one to say that the 10,000 ape men mutant speech writer conspiracy is more or less probable than the interdimesional baby eating reptile conspiracy? And if they have this technology, well, how'd they do that? How'd they keep it for those thousands of years, and keep it a secret, but live in rock and brick dwellings underground, and also leave no evidence of their tech or books or schools or whatever? And if they've been isolated from the rest of mankind for so long, they'd be genetically distinct from every other population, especially since you are saying that they were genetically altered in the first place.



posted on Nov, 23 2004 @ 03:42 PM
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Alright uhm, why would being taught anything result in 'faster' evolution and why would genetic alteration result in gaining technological knowledge?

First they may have evolved faster but probably not (it's only one persons idea) And second they were taught about the technology by the aliens.

Or they could evolve faster by using new technology because they would evolve to use the technology better. like when the moths evolved really fast because of soot on the trees.

I know the history is a bit dodgy and it's just speculation, but the whole idea of this thread is to highlight what their doing now not what they were doing in the past.



posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 06:31 AM
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How exactly do you know all this?

If there is no evidence from the past, no evidence from the now, where exaclty did you get this information.

Are you one of these highly advanced humans, or one of the "others" who is showing concern for a civilisation that it's species interferred with, do you hear voices, are you on Acid.


How do you know



posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 09:37 AM
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Bondi, in a sense your right, you see one of the others who did have concern did see me (or someone on acid) and told me this. To be honest i wish they hadn't because since then i've had three guys following me and i got an email telling me to stop my search or they'll stop it.

Now you can look at this in three ways
1) You can believe my story and do some searching of your own at the risk of being silenced-permanately
2)Think i am on acid and totally ignore this thread which if you do then you'll live a normal life but your children/grandchildren etc. won't
3)It's all just a coincidence, the one who spoke to me was lying,the people following me just really like me and the e-mail was just spam

Now i know that giving you options to choose really makes my argument weaker as it looks as though i doubt myself but it's just to stop sarcastic responses which really really annoy me


Like i've said before do what you will, just take one piece of advice:-

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX

That last sentence was meant in a literal sense so no smart alecs say something sarcastic about it.



posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Iknowthelies
you see one of the others who did have concern did see me (or someone on acid) and told me this


No offence, but did you ask why they chose you. With all the brilliant minds in this planet why you, that's not meant to be insulting


since then i've had three guys following me


If you are on acid, then paranoia is expected. If you are not, go and speak to the people who are following you. If they truly are what you think, they willnot dare creat a scene in pulbic, surely the last thing they want to do is be in the public eye.


and i got an email telling me to stop my search or they'll stop it.


I gues they signed their name them, for you to know it's a they, could you forward to me. As the only one with the knowledge there is no way you would of deleted it, it is prime evidence to support your theory/knowledge.


THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX


I do otherwise I would not of enquired as to your info. I am interested in your source. What did the other look like, how did the other meet you, things like that. This information helps collaborate your story.

A lack of historical evidence can always be argued with the fact it just hasn't been found yet, I am interested in the most up to date info. Alot of your first post is speculation, and can be classed as imagination.

Factual information is what is required.



posted on Nov, 24 2004 @ 04:46 PM
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But who are these people? It could well be the New World Order in disguise, they are good at hiding.
If the Aliens came, they probally took Humans, and cloned them for their own uses, maybe because their species was dying, and they needed to live on im spirit?



posted on Nov, 25 2004 @ 07:54 AM
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Is everything down to the freemasons or the NWO around here.

Can we get some original thought



posted on Nov, 25 2004 @ 09:41 AM
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i've founda strange object that i can't explain and as soon as i get a digital camera or a scanner i'll post it.

A brief description:

A metallic object that gives off a blue glow in the dark with some strange symbols on. I found it around the area where the person i met told me about .

It reminds me of the I bars found at the roswell crash.

[edit on 25-11-2004 by Iknowthelies]



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 03:27 AM
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At first I thought this thread was a bunch of bull. I'm not saying I believe it, although I am very rivited. I swear(!) if I had one wish it would be to know all of the top secret stuff going on in this country and the planet!



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by Iknowthelies
"A metallic object that gives off a blue glow in the dark with some strange symbols on. I found it around the area where the person i met told me about .

It reminds me of the I bars found at the roswell crash. "


At the roswell crash? I bars? HUH? lol, umm, please clarify.



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 03:48 AM
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I've heard of these bars before. They're little metallic things maybe about 2.5 inches long. A quarter of an inch thick. I couldn't imagine what purpose they would serve though.



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 03:55 AM
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oic. well roswell, 1947... that was a while back, so this guy's got some years on him, for sure if he was indeed at the roswell crash. Hopefully he'll post a pic of the blue glowing thing, so all the debunkers can have their turn.



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 02:55 PM
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Maybe he was saying that he found them at the site recently.



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 06:39 PM
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Well true, I see what you are saying Hallow, and I too realized this, but the way he stated it, sounded to me like he was there.... Anyway, I hope he comes back soon and makes a post with the updates...



posted on Nov, 27 2004 @ 10:49 PM
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I'm still finding this a bit hard to swallow. However, like you, I hope he returns soon.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 04:21 PM
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he did not find these i bar type things at rosswell, he found them at the place that the guy who told him about 'the others.' met him, and told him about this. He said they just remind him of the i bars found at rosswell (if indeed they ever existed). I personally think this guy is just a crackhead. We'll see once he posts these pics.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by SuperVincent
he did not find these i bar type things at rosswell, he found them at the place that the guy who told him about 'the others.' met him, and told him about this. He said they just remind him of the i bars found at rosswell (if indeed they ever existed). I personally think this guy is just a crackhead. We'll see once he posts these pics.


True. However, just because he posts a bunch of pics on the board doesn't make them real or true. I know one thing. I'd love to meet this "other" person. I have a few questions of my own that I would like to ask.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 05:41 PM
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yeah, I really think this story is bs. I don't think he's 'making it up.' It's just not real, a coincidence, or he's just halucinating cause he's a crackhead or something. He said the guy who told him was on acid lol. You'd think the 'others' would be smart and stay away from drugs or something.

Anyways, if I met him, I'd definatly have a nice discussion with him, not just... listen to him, and be like 'well thats food for thought... cya.' And about these bars, what did they just fall out of his pocket? Like they carry wierd bars around with them? In the rosswell incident, the bars (if true, I'm leaning towards it was just made up) but the bars were guessing to be some kind of structural support from what I gather. I don't want to know what this guy had that needed support. And how much later did you go? I can't see these things just sitting there for days. I don't mean any offense by this, I can't prove it wrong, but I'd give this a 1/10 on a credibility scale.



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