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Here are 3 reasons why someone would not want to believe in God and Jesus :
reply to post by graphuto
In the Greek of the John references, it's possible to see a distinction between "believing in" and "believing that".
Believing that is about accepting the truth of a statement.
Believing in is about trusting a person.
If you look through these references, you see that believing in (i.e.Jesus) is the most important feature of Faith, while believing that is secondary, and follows on from the first.
edit on 22-2-2014 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)
The difference between a true believer and a demon is that although the demon mentally understands the concept, he rejects the lordship of Jesus Christ. Likewise, a "Christian" who responded to an altar call in 1982, but isn't following Jesus isn't really a believer. The New Testament qualifies the definition of a believer as being one who has faith in Jesus Christ.6 Faith is more than merely having some knowledge about the facts surrounding the life and teaching of Jesus Christ. Jesus Himself said that those who truly believed in Him would "take up his cross" and follow Him.7 The Bible calls into question the "belief" of anyone who is not following Jesus as Lord. Another sign of a true believer is that the believer does not practice sin (live in a state of continual sin),8 although we are not completely without sin.9
At least part of the controversy about the security of the believer has to do with the definition of a true believer. Many critics of "once saved always saved" object to what they call "easy beliefism." Much of the emphasis in Christian evangelism is on the "altar call" or "revival meeting." Although some people can be saved through such activities, many are caught up in the emotion of the moment and do not really believe. Then they wonder why their lives have not changed. It is clear from the Bible that the true believer is transformed through the power of the Holy Spirit.
reply to post by flammadraco, iRoyalty
The King James Version that has been in print since 1611. The one we've had for the past 400 years. Perhaps I should have put that in the beginning of the thread and alot of this could have been avoided.edit on 22-2-2014 by graphuto because: (no reason given)
What say you about the fact that people ACTIVELY TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO NOT BELIEVE, without even offering up a better or more probable possibility, without ANY sort of evidence, and for what reason?
At least WE have the Bible, it's SOMETHING!edit on 22-2-2014 by graphuto because: (no reason given)
Let me gently remind you the motto of ATS "Deny Ignorance" and as such, there are members on ATS that believe the Bible is not a book written by god and as such we have the right to respond to these threads.