reply to post by GodIsRelative
TextIf the Kingdom of God is already among us, then why should we believe that Hell will wait for us to die to show itself?
What do you mean when you say the kingdom of God is already among us? Could you please explain this?
Before Jesus died all spirits of humans were contained in Sheol, which is the underworld of spirits. Within this underworld were separated areas for
the good and bad spirits of people and among these areas were hell and paradise. The good spirit would be contained in paradise (Abraham’s Bosom)
while the bad spirit was contained in hell. This is the doctrine that Jesus preached.
As the Christ Jesus died, he then presented Himself to those spirits who were in Sheol and were to be salvaged and led them out of the bondage of the
underworld and into the celestial realm of the kingdom of God (kingdom of heaven). These were the first to be resurrected from a naked terrestrial
spirit to a clothed celestial spirit. Paradise was thus removed from the terrestrial earth to the celestial third heaven's New Jerusalem.
Within this celestial paradise are the trees of life and the water of life which offers eternal celestial life. The kingdom of heaven, which Jesus
preached, was not revealed to people until He died. The reason being that His blood must create the new covenant which will allow those in Sheol to
enter New Jerusalem. That kingdom of heaven is the New Jerusalem which replaced the earthly paradise. The book of Isaiah reveals this and verifies
John’s Revelation in the last two chapters of Isaiah.
Since the New Jerusalem has been given at Jesus’ death, all righteous spirits now are contained in the celestial New Jerusalem while the unrighteous
spirits remain in this earth in Sheol. As a soul dies, that spirit of that soul is immediately judged and sentenced. If found unworthy it is still
contained in hell as a unclothed naked spirit till the last day. If a spirit is found worthy, it is given a celestial garment and a new name written
on a white stone and allowed eternal life in the celestial New Jerusalem. All souls who die before the last day are treated in this same manner and
are not re tried in the last day of the white throne judgment. All souls who are alive at the last day will face the white throne judgment of Christ
Now in reference to a Satan. A Satan is anyone who is against God. An Antichrist is the same. There are many Satan’s and there are many
Antichrists but a Satan is a celestial entity while an Antichrist is a terrestrial entity. All are independent entities who are against God and not a
figment of imagination.
Revelation 12:7-9 - (7) - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (8) -
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. (9) - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and
Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Isaiah 14:12 -15 - (12)-How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken
the nations! (13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon
the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (14) -I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (15) Yet
thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
2nd Peter 2:4- For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto
the judgment of the great day.
All four men have referenced this entity called Lucifer (Satan, Devil) and all agree that these angels are now contained in this terrestrial earth
called hell. This should show that these angels are not loosed upon the world as demons such as many people believe. Demons are not fallen angels
and in fact demons are not celestial entities whatsoever.
As Jesus was upon this earth, He fought many demons and was tempted by Satan’s but this was not Lucifer as you can plainly see. Lucifer is in hell
and has been in hell since before Noah repopulated this earth. Jesus was tempted by a Satan but it was not Lucifer.
God’s perfect will is that not one will perish. That is true but then you must remember that God has a perfect will and a permissive will. Today
as since the days of the flood, we are living in the permissive will of God. If we were living in God’s perfect will the universe would not exist.
My last thought in this post is that of sin. Sin came from heavenly order. Sin is actually the practice of evil and yet evil was created by God.
Isaiah 45:7 – “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things”.
Lucifer did not invent sin but he embraced sin. God has created unrighteousness as the opposite of righteousness. How else would creation have
knowledge? Could we understand heat without cold? All knowledge is the choice of opposites otherwise knowledge would not exist. Wisdom is the fruit
of knowledge and this is the gift that was offered even in the Gan Eden. Without the tree of knowledge and the tree of life, a choice could not have
been made nor sin be revealed. So in death we have the tree of life restored in paradise with the gift of knowledge. God did not create evil in
malice but only as a teaching tool to learn to love. Love is the only creation that survives the terrestrial man. Lucifer did not embrace love but
The Serpent also embraced evil and would not repent but taught his will to the creation. Eve embraced this spirit of disobedience by choice without
realizing the repercussions but it was still not the perfect will of God. With grace, god instilled knowledge into His creation and restored paradise
to those who will choose His New Jerusalem.
All of this discussion is bible based in the 1611 KJV bible along with the answer as to the child who has been aborted, the mentally handicapped and
the children who have not reached accountability. I am amazed that organized religion will not reveal this to the people.