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Obama's Coming Communist Coup D'état in 2016

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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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Your FAIL is so huge, I don't know where to begin. Let's start with congress....Did Obama appoint Congress? No? Then your argument is invalid.


How the hell did he fail ?

Never heard of the DOJ,IRS,and DHS that are nothing, but political arms of the administration.

I say he was spot on.




posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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neo96
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No, it's a word that people use when they disagree with something because they can't think of anything better. Believe it or not, Communism has a definition. It's not a term you can mindlessly throw at everything you hate.


Sure I can just like those people who throw the word fascist around all the time.
Have you ever thought about not mindlessly throwing terms with well-established definitions at everything you disagree with? Some people might have trouble taking you seriously when you can't even take the basic concepts of language seriously.

Also, great that your post is relevant to the topic; perhaps you should've stuck to discussing the topic instead of going for "scary liberals are killing black babies and turning America into a Communist Regime" angle.
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:05 PM
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How about people stop mindlessly supporting Obama and his party since their entire platform is straight out of the communist manifesto.

How about that ?

Those are the people I don't take seriously.




Also, great that your post is relevant to the topic; perhaps you should've stuck to discussing the topic instead of going for "scary liberals are killing black babies and turning America into a Communist Regime" angle.


Guess them 'scary liberals' your words not mine should stop mimicking China's one child policy.
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:07 PM
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:27 PM
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neo96
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How about people stop mindlessly supporting Obama and his party since their entire platform is straight out of the communist manifesto.

How about that ?

Those are the people I don't take seriously.




Also, great that your post is relevant to the topic; perhaps you should've stuck to discussing the topic instead of going for "scary liberals are killing black babies and turning America into a Communist Regime" angle.


Guess them 'scary liberals' your words not mine should stop mimicking China's one child policy.
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So far you have had trouble using the proper definition of a word (challenging, I know) and now you have somehow managed to confuse allowing a human being to do something with forcing a human being to do something.

And before you decide to make the claim that abortion is forcing the fetus do something, bear in mind the fetus (a yet-to-be human being) lives within an actual human being's body, so the issue isn't as cut and dry as you would believe it to be.
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:31 PM
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So far you have had trouble using the proper definition of a word


Again NO.

Didn't agree the first time, or the second time, or third time, or the fourth time.

In fact not a thing I have said has been 'disputed' with anything of real substance.



com·mu·nism ˈkämyəˌnizəm/ noun noun: communism; noun:

Communism; plural noun: Communisms
1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Origin



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Pretty much what I have said.

Describes perfectly Obama and his party.

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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 09:37 PM
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1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Origin


Case in point:

Hey them evil rich people don't 'need' all that money.

Hey them people don't need them evil guns.

Hey people don't need kids.

Because they don't have the ability to 'properly use them' or 'it's too much trouble taking care of them'.


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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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neo96
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Your FAIL is so huge, I don't know where to begin. Let's start with congress....Did Obama appoint Congress? No? Then your argument is invalid.


How the hell did he fail ?

Never heard of the DOJ,IRS,and DHS that are nothing, but political arms of the administration.

I say he was spot on.


So, POTUS's appoints Congressional members?

I didn't think so.

You fail too!!!!

A regular thing around here...

Your hatred is so blind, you miss the truth.

Admit it, I'm right; you're wrong.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:16 PM
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But Obama has appointed his own people to run the other branches of government, so he controls those already..


This is what They said.

Yeah someone did fail there since that is what has happened.

then someone said this :




Your FAIL is so huge, I don't know where to begin. Let's start with congress....Did Obama appoint Congress? No? Then your argument is invalid.


THey never said Obama 'appointed congress'.

NEVER.

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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:16 PM
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neo96

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Origin


Case in point:

[Hey them evil rich people don't 'need' all that money.
Ok, related to communism, but not really evidence of Communism. Communism is a lot more than rich people being slightly less rich. Also, I'm pretty sure if Obama believed that, then the bailouts wouldn't have happened. Besides, doesn't Obamacare force people to buy health insurance? Pretty positive that rich people exist in the health insurance business.


Hey them people don't need them evil guns.
I've heard some Democrats say this, so you're partially right. For the most part though, Obama and Democrats support gun control, which still allows people to own weapons (well, some weapons anyways).


Hey people don't need kids.
And now you've just ran out of things that are vaguely related to communism at this point.

So I would say pretty weak list overall. Sounds like your typical paranoid nonsense.
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:32 PM
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Get ready,

Get set,

GO !!



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:35 PM
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Communism is a lot more than rich people being slightly less rich. Also, I'm pretty sure if Obama believed that, then the bailouts wouldn't have happened.


Bailouts wouldn't have happened ?

Sure they would since he bailed out that other communist fabulous dream. The auto bailouts were about UNIONS.

Can't get any more communist than supporting unions.

No individual identity and much like communism. The party comes first the union comes first.


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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:54 PM
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Just something to toss in for the record here because it really does matter. The Russian Federation, for it's part, largely rejected Communism. (Totally, in any official way, I suppose). China on the other hand, IS a communist nation and has been, continuously, a communist nation from October 1949 onward. Folks can insist communists aren't communists and it's almost amusing to watch at times, as it literally is that basic a thing. It's calling the people who define communism, not communist enough to be allowed to call themselves communist.

Umm.. China makes absolutely no bones about who or what they are and never pretends to be otherwise. I respect them for that, among other things. However, as a famous sailor once said... I is what I is...and in this case? They certainly are, what they are.


Inspired by the Russian Revolution the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was established in Shanghai by Chen Duxiu and Li Dazhao in June 1921. Early members included Mao Zedong, Zhou Enlai, Zhu De and Lin Biao. Following instructions from the Comintern members also joined the Kuomintang.

Mao Zedong soon became the most important member of the CCP. He adapted the ideas of Lenin who had successfully achieved a revolution in Russia in 1917. He argued that in Asia it was important to concentrate on the countryside rather than the towns, in order to create a revolutionary elite.


Then of course World War II happened after a rather brutal war with the Japanese Empire on Chinese soil. Nanking, as one example...lots of history there..then


During the Second World War the communist guerrilla forces were well led by Zhu De and Lin Biao. As soon as the Japanese surrendered, Communist forces began a war against the Kuomintang. The communists gradually gained control of the country and on 1st October, 1949, Mao Zedong announced the establishment of People's Republic of China.

In 1958 Mao Zedong announced the Great Leap Forward, an attempt to increase agricultural and industrial production
Source: Sparticus Educational

Then we have the modern day. They've certainly instituted some reforms. Quite a few in fact, while ramming through their phase of industrial revolution, just as the west once did, but with a typical Communist efficiency. It works, but it's dirty. It's still very much, and non apologetic about, being communist.


After Mao’s death Hua Guofeng was party chairman until 1981, when Deng’s protege Hu Yaobang took over the post. Hu was replaced as the party general secretary (the post of chairman was abolished in 1982) by another Deng protégé, Zhao Ziyang, in 1987. Zhao was succeeded by Jiang Zemin in 1989, and Hu Jintao was elected general secretary in 2002. Hu was then followed as general secretary by Xi Jinping, who was elected to the post in 2012.

With more than 80 million members, the CCP is the largest political party in the world. It is a monolithic, monopolistic party that dominates the political life of China. It is the major policy-making body in China, and it sees that the central, provincial, and local organs of government carry out those policies.

The CCP’s structure is as follows. Once every five years or so, a National Party Congress of some 2,000 delegates (the number varies) meets in plenary session to elect a Central Committee of about 200 full members, which in turn meets at least once a year. The Central Committee elects a Political Bureau of about 20–25 full members; this body is the ruling leadership of the CCP. The Political Bureau’s Standing Committee of about six to nine of its most authoritative members is the highest leadership in the CCP and the country as a whole. In practice, power flows from the top down in the CCP.
Source: Chinese Communist Party (CCP)

They are what they are and while far more subtle and professional in some ways, they're every bit the equal of the NSA, and I'm sure our side doesn't underestimate their Ministry of State Security. In fact, the NSA could have been tapping the Chinese to have the same as them.

Who says it was THEY who had the same as WE? Could have been the other way around.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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neo96

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Origin


Case in point:

Hey them evil rich people don't 'need' all that money.

Hey them people don't need them evil guns.

Hey people don't need kids.

Because they don't have the ability to 'properly use them' or 'it's too much trouble taking care of them'.


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Hello Archie Bunker

If the heat gets tough you can always go to Fox News dot com and get a sympathetic ear.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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Then we have the modern day. They've certainly instituted some reforms. Quite a few in fact, while ramming through their phase of industrial revolution, just as the west once did, but with a typical Communist efficiency. It works, but it's dirty. It's still very much, and non apologetic about, being communist.


The only reason it 'works' is because China props themselves up with 'capitalist' countries.

They would implode otherwise.




Just something to toss in for the record here because it really does matter. The Russian Federation, for it's part, largely rejected Communism. (Totally, in any official way, I suppose). China on the other hand, IS a communist nation and has been, continuously, a communist nation from October 1949 onward. Folks can insist communists aren't communists and it's almost amusing to watch at times, as it literally is that basic a thing. It's calling the people who define communism, not communist enough to be allowed to call themselves communist.


Definitely agree with this.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:04 PM
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neo96

1. a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. Origin


Case in point:

Hey them evil rich people don't 'need' all that money.

Hey them people don't need them evil guns.

Hey people don't need kids.

Because they don't have the ability to 'properly use them' or 'it's too much trouble taking care of them'.


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Hello Archie Bunker

If the heat gets tough you can always go to Fox News dot com and get a sympathetic ear.


Guess all the 'communist' sympathizers can go to MSNBC or write the potus for a 'sympathetic ear'.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:21 PM
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Actually, I disagree on the basic reason China works. The Chinese ruling members are still few among fully four times the population of the United States but living in roughly the same land mass, with equally vast areas of sparsely inhabited. So, basically, 4x's the potential problems.

China does it by an event I recall by having been one of those kinda nerdy, kinda not teens that happened to like CNN in the background as something to watch any time or just browsing an encyclopedia when bored in grade school.

So The Tiananmen Square protests and the absolute definitive outcome they came to have for the world to see (Live TV being so super high tech back then) is something burned in as an early memory. Definitely a lesson to cross generations about the ultimate shove in a push come to shove situation. Losing power simply isn't an option there.... It's a whole different way of life and culture.

Personally, I'm no apologist but I will say, more power to 'em, but over there. Not here or where it's not wanted. (same for ourselves and others, but other threads of course) Over there tho? Wow.... Who can forget the really ugly and vodka smelling results from forcing democracy where it wasn't wanted? China works by what China needs, I'd say. 100% not what we need...but it works there.
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posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:27 PM
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The only reason it 'works' is because China props themselves up with 'capitalist' countries.

They would implode otherwise.

 


And they damn near did implode early on.




The Great Leap Forward (simplified Chinese: 大跃进; traditional Chinese: 大躍進; pinyin: Dà yuè jìn) of the People's Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign by the Communist Party of China (CPC) from 1958 to 1961. The campaign was led by Mao Zedong and aimed to rapidly transform the country from an agrarian economy into a communist society through rapid industrialization and collectivization. The campaign caused the Great Chinese Famine.

Chief changes in the lives of rural Chinese included the introduction of a mandatory process of agricultural collectivization, which was introduced incrementally. Private farming was prohibited, and those engaged in it were labeled as counter revolutionaries and persecuted. Restrictions on rural people were enforced through public struggle sessions, and social pressure, although people also experienced forced labor.[1] Rural industrialization, officially a priority of the campaign, saw "its development ... aborted by the mistakes of the Great Leap Forward."[2]

The Great Leap ended in catastrophe, resulting in tens of millions of deaths.[3] Estimates of the death toll range from 18 million[4] to 45 million,[5] with estimates by demographic specialists ranging from 18 million to 32.5 million.[4] Historian Frank Dikötter asserts that "coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward" and it "motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history".


Great Leap Forward


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