reply to post by JamesCookieIII
Science is based on belief and faith too.
Science is not based on belief or faith. Where did you get that? Science is based on what we know....what is measurable, provable and repeatable.
Faith, as far as I'm concerned is abhorrent. Faith can justify any attrocity...any indignity. How many millions have met their deaths because of the
belief and faith of others? Faith and belief holds humanity back. Just 500 years ago we "believed" because of our "faith" that the Earth was the
center of all creation. We truely believed the Earth was flat....despite the fact that there was evidence that clearly showed that this was nonsense.
I could go on and on but I'm guessing we are at two completely different ends of the spectrum...never to find common ground.
I wish you well on your journey.
Science i3s based on a few assumptions... and technically it never proved anything. It only disproves something. take a re-look at the scientific
method. The faith comes in during the interpretation of the data, and the communication process. We often assume as scientists that the future will
resemble the past. however, with string theory and development of quantum physics, this assumption should not be ALWAYS assumed.
also, I would like to point out that we are not at the opposite ends of the spectrum, because there is no spectrum. There is an artificial "paradox"
created by arguing about how to go about life... empirically or rationally? for this little bit I'd like to keep it related to science v religion, but
really it's a philosophical arguement about ethics.
The point I really would like to see people agree on is that virtuous ethical scientists are who really makes miracles happen in the science
just like religion, science can be distorted and misrepresent how good both of them can be. The way to do it right is be a faithful scientist,
following virtuous examples in both feilds. now sometimes people don't know what virtue means. I think that the bible offers an awesome example of a
virtuous person, namely a dude named Jesus. If you disagree, I wish u could tell me why.
sorry bout the mixed up quotes in the original response. thought I'd move it here. look - life is like one hell of a hard experiment - one that we
cannot hope to analyze alone. there's no secret to solving a hard problem besides doing the work out... Faith is the key to setting off a chain
reaction, or as AfterInfinity posted in another one of the original poster's threads, the key to breaking the encryption which masks your true
purpose. it is what allows a person to make decisions.
Although the problem is hard, if you have faith, in reality you make it become an ideal situation problem - as opposed to an abstract one - which you
can solve with a forumla. that formula is to have faith in good people, feel sorry for bad people (not get mad at them), and since EVERYONE makes
mistakes, learn to forgive one another. Now, applying that to Oktopus and AfterInfinity's relationship, in the name of truth in science, religion,
life, and whatever comes after, please apologize to one another, for the love of ATS. You guys are both too smart for this nonsense, and this
community sure can use some more brilliant teachers.
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