It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Cloud Seeding has NOTHING to do with con/chem-trails.

page: 1
4
<<   2  3 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:36 AM
link   

What is cloud seeding?
Cloud seeding is the process of spreading either dry ice, or more commonly, silver iodide aerosols, into the upper part of clouds to try to stimulate the precipitation process and form rain.

Since most rainfall starts through the growth of ice crystals from super-cooled cloud droplets (droplets colder than the freezing point, 32 deg. F or 0 deg. C) in the upper parts of clouds, the silver iodide particles are meant to encourage the growth of new ice particles.

The history of cloud seeding has experienced uncertain results because it can never be known whether a cloud that rains after seeding might have rained anyway. This is because seeding is performed on clouds that look like they have some potential for producing rain.


Link to source.

This is science fact. It's accepted by everyone in the field. There are no grey areas. You just need to apply for a permit and you can seed clouds in your area. Or you can hire a company to do it for you. But this process cannot be seen from the ground. It has nothing to do with contrails. It looks nothing like contrails. As it's not VISIBLE from the ground.

The chemtrail discussions have been largely derailed lately by the apparent non understanding of this.
Here is an example of a cloud that could be seeded. Notice that you cannot see the ground under the cloud deck.



these are contrails. Notice that there is no massive cloud cover where seeding could be done.




posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:39 AM
link   
already. Silver Iodide is a CHEMICAL. duuuuuuuuuh



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:41 AM
link   
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


lets break down that word.

chem-TRAIL

Trail:

noun
1.
a mark or a series of signs or objects left behind by the passage of someone or something.
"a trail of blood on the grass"
synonyms: series, string, chain, succession, sequence; More
a track or scent used in following someone or hunting an animal.
"police followed his trail to Atlantic City"
synonyms: track, spoor, path, scent; More
a part, typically long and thin, stretching behind or hanging down from someone or something.
"smoke trails"
synonyms: wake, contrail, tail, stream More
a line of people or things following behind each other.
"a trail of ants"
2.
a beaten path through rough country such as a forest or moor.
synonyms: path, pathway, way, footpath, walk, track, course, route More
a route planned or followed for a particular purpose.
"a Democratic candidate on the campaign trail"
a downhill ski run or cross-country ski route.
noun: ski trail; plural noun: ski trails
3.
short for trailer (sense 2 of the noun).
4.
the rear end of a gun carriage, resting or sliding on the ground when the gun is unlimbered.
verb
verb: trail; 3rd person present: trails; past tense: trailed; past participle: trailed; gerund or present participle: trailing
1.
draw or be drawn along the ground or other surface behind someone or something.
"Alex trailed a hand through the clear water"
synonyms: drag, sweep, swish, be drawn; More
(typically of a plant) grow or hang over the edge of something or along the ground.
"the roses grew wild, their stems trailing over the banks"
synonyms: hang, droop, fall, spill, cascade More
follow (a person or animal), typically by using marks, signs, or scent left behind.
synonyms: follow, pursue, track, shadow, stalk, hunt (down); More
be losing to an opponent in a game or contest.
"the Packers were trailing 10–6 at halftime"
synonyms: lose, be down, be behind, lag behind More
2.
walk or move slowly or wearily.link to source
"she trailed behind, whimpering at intervals"



Please acknowledge that you comprehend the information presented.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:45 AM
link   
reply to post by network dude
 


Siver Iodide

The crystalline structure of β-AgI is similar to that of ice, allowing it to induce freezing by the process known as heterogeneous nucleation. Approximately 50,000 kg are used for cloud seeding annually, each seeding experiment consuming 10-50 grams.
That's why those trails "linger."



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:47 AM
link   
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


so you are saying those lines in the sky


are silver iodide sprayed by planes?



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:47 AM
link   
reply to post by network dude
 


Con-trails form in the stratosphere where moisture is relatively scarce. Enough to form ugly lines across the sky that depending on conditions, can expand into feathery patterns but not enough to actually cause precip. Cloud seeding is done at lower levels where there is ample available moisture to create rain/snow.

So, in terms of the conspiracy theory, the only motives that remain are:
1. TPTB trying to stave off global warming by increasing albedo.
2. TPTB trying to kill everyone with poison.
3. A weaponized internet meme designed to overtly "stress out" those that distrust authorities in the first place.

3 seems the most likely to me.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:49 AM
link   

network dude
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


so you are saying those lines in the sky


are silver iodide sprayed by planes?
It could be any number of chemicals, including salt. Silver iodide is just one type.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:51 AM
link   
reply to post by InverseLookingGlass
 


I could not agree more.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:51 AM
link   
reply to post by InverseLookingGlass
 
i like option no. 4........population control. He who controls the weather, makes the rules! It would be a "conspiracy" if there weren't actual facts to support their projects. They have been quite successful, at weather modification. I can think of 3 instances, to support that claim!



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:53 AM
link   

WonderBoi
It could be any number of chemicals, including salt. Silver iodide is just one type.


I believe you are party correct. It's a frozen variation of one part hydrogen and two parts oxygen.

If you truly believe that those lines are all chemicals, then we can discuss that and put your mind to rest very quickly, but you seem to not have any idea what you really mean most of the time, so I need some clarification. Just to ensure you are sure what you mean.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 10:56 AM
link   
reply to post by network dude
 
You don't even know what a "chemical" is. You think it's some kind of Raid product. No wait, Black Flag. lol



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:00 AM
link   

WonderBoi
reply to post by InverseLookingGlass
 
i like option no. 4........population control. He who controls the weather, makes the rules! It would be a "conspiracy" if there weren't actual facts to support their projects. They have been quite successful, at weather modification. I can think of 3 instances, to support that claim!


Well then it is a big failure:
Human Population Growth

Please show some data that the population of the Earth is shrinking or growing less then expected.



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:02 AM
link   
Here, let me try to help you because you are SERIOUSLY CONFUSED!

Charged Particles

In physics, a charged particle is a particle with an electric charge. It may be either a subatomic particle or an ion. A collection of charged particles, or even a gas containing a proportion of charged particles, is called a plasma, which is called the fourth state of matter because its properties are quite different from solids, liquids and gases (plasma is the most common state of matter in the universe). Particles either have a positive, negative or no charge (being neutral).

Silver Iodide

Silver iodide is prepared by reaction of an iodide solution (e.g., potassium iodide) with a solution of silver ions (e.g., silver nitrate).

Salt

In chemistry, salts are ionic compounds that can result from the neutralization reaction of an acid and a base. They are composed of related numbers of cations (positively charged ions) and anions (negative ions) so that the product is electrically neutral (without a net charge).
Wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round.......



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:07 AM
link   
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


My God, do you even listen to yourself? I am very happy you decided to take chemistry 101. We are discussing

Why cloud seeding has nothing to do with contrails.

Is there any way you might find your way back to that?



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:12 AM
link   

WonderBoi
Here, let me try to help you because you are SERIOUSLY CONFUSED!

Charged Particles

In physics, a charged particle is a particle with an electric charge. It may be either a subatomic particle or an ion. A collection of charged particles, or even a gas containing a proportion of charged particles, is called a plasma, which is called the fourth state of matter because its properties are quite different from solids, liquids and gases (plasma is the most common state of matter in the universe). Particles either have a positive, negative or no charge (being neutral).

Silver Iodide

Silver iodide is prepared by reaction of an iodide solution (e.g., potassium iodide) with a solution of silver ions (e.g., silver nitrate).

Salt

In chemistry, salts are ionic compounds that can result from the neutralization reaction of an acid and a base. They are composed of related numbers of cations (positively charged ions) and anions (negative ions) so that the product is electrically neutral (without a net charge).
Wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round.......


So how are these "chemicals" distributed? How many do you think are needed to make the trails in the sky? What is the chemical equation that makes this happen?



posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:19 AM
link   
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


SInce at least two people starred you post here, perhaps they, or you, could explain the following:


50,000 kg are used for cloud seeding annually


From your link

Now how does 50 thousand kilograms cover the entire US? Please show the math that explains this. (using math to explain things is often used in chemistry, but I am sure you knew that)


(post by Urantia1111 removed for a manners violation)

posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:36 AM
link   
reply to post by network dude
 
50,000 kilograms, is 50,000 kilograms too much! Does it matter if you shoot a person with a .45 or a rifle?


(post by network dude removed for a manners violation)

posted on Feb, 21 2014 @ 11:44 AM
link   

WonderBoi
reply to post by network dude
 
50,000 kilograms, is 50,000 kilograms too much! Does it matter if you shoot a person with a .45 or a rifle?



Please show what studies have been done that find problems with cloud seeding impacting the environment due to chemicals.



new topics

top topics



 
4
<<   2  3 >>

log in

join