National School Safety Expert: Sandy Hook shooting was a fraud

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posted on Mar, 23 2014 @ 09:57 PM

reply to post by Sremmos80

This will simultaneously shed some light on a few of those things while at the same time somehow making them more confusing:

Testimony of Trooper William F. Cario, Book 6

I wish I could highlight this sentence:

Trust me, just read it…

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The description of the shooter given by the surviving victim does not match up with Lanza' s body as found in Room 10, according to this officer's testimony.

Second shooter suspected.

posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 06:22 PM
reply to post by zazen

The witnesses' accounts just don't match up.

-The only two adult witnesses to actually see the shooter, Natalie Hammond and redacted, described him as ‘wearing a mask’.
-The police, on the other hand, say there was no mask.

-The cops in the school encountering the partially supine, deceased gunman, are initially unsure if he is a victim, due to his ‘small stature’
-One Trooper's account even described the gunman as ‘an adolescent male’.
^These descriptions are kind of difficult to reconcile with an Adam Lanza that, even as malnourished as they claim, had a height of 6'1"

What people claim to have heard over the intercom is another jarring inconsistency.
-Many heard solely gunshots coming from the intercom.
-Kaitlin Roig, during a pause in the shooting, leaves the closet to get her phone, (which apparently was missing from her desk; and she later tells police that she thinks that the shooter entered the room and took her cellphone), and hears people in the office, via the intercom ‘talking about being shot’.
-Others hear arguing.
-Still others hear kids crying and pleading.
-The women in the conference room, the room from which Dawn Hochsprung and Mary Sherlach had just run, which is closest to the two, fated classrooms, didn't hear any children, and thought that the kids were just ‘being good’.

-Multiple people relate the same tale of hearing Rick Thorne, the school's custodian, either yelling at the shooter, or otherwise encountering the shooter.
-Rick Thorne himself, however, says that he never saw him. He just "smelled gunpowder", ran to the gym, and called 9-1-1.

Another statement of Thorne's definitely caused me to raise an eyebrow:

Lastly, Thorne related that as he was being escorted out of the school, he observed two adult females lying in the hallway by the office. Thorne stated that they were near a bench and they both appeared shot. Moreover, Thorne stated that he did not recognize them, but he did notice that one of the females was wearing an orange dress.

Testimony of Rick Thorne (last paragraph in-situ, below)


-Some places in the report it says that arriving officers assumed that the shooter had killed himself, and that the police fired no shots.
-Elsewhere it states that Lanza was ‘fatally wounded by police’.

Excuse the language, but seriously … wtf?
This is the same report we're talking about. Not a news report. A police investigation report. One that people supposedly spent a year working on.

ATS is right about putting this topic in the [HOAX] and LOL forums.
Just not for the reasons stated.

Now for a detail:
The investigators go interview this one woman, not because she was a witness, but because they found her name on the school visitor's log. She was there to deliver a letter to a teacher, written by her kid, apologizing for cheating on a test. According to the log, she apparently signed-out at 9:32 … directly before the first 9-1-1 call was received.
She sees a dour 60-65 year old man, dressed in dark clothing…

who was this?
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posted on Mar, 24 2014 @ 07:50 PM
reply to post by 3mperorConstantinE

Good points. I am particularly interested in the portion of the trooper's testimony where he describes treating the injured woman in Room #9.

"...the victim, although very emotional, reported the shooter was wearing black and had a mask. This was not what we had observed in Room #10 [where the trooper had just seen Lanza's body]."

Why did the man who shot this woman not match the description of the body [Lanza] found in the classroom?

I'm guessing it is because someone else shot this woman. This person is probably the same one who shot Lanza in the head and possibly shot some or all of the other victims.

posted on Mar, 25 2014 @ 01:07 AM
reply to post by zazen

Yes, the issue with the mask is a ... pretty big red flag. More than fog of war, since these two different people saw the same thing.

Another problem for me, are the dates of these investigation reports.
Most are (naturally) dated December 2012 and January 2013.
Then there's a trickling of things filed later.

Okay, so what were they doing the entire rest of the year?
What exactly took Sedensky a year's worth of time?
Typing a 48 page “Final Report” replete with a redacted appendix?

And why in God's name would they wait until April 10, 2013, 5 months after the incident, to hand AT&T a search-warrant for the phone records of

  1. Nancy Lanza's iPhone,
  2. Adam's old Samsung cellular phone,
  3. 36 Yogananda Street's landline house phone.

    I'm sorry, but in the real world, that would've happened that very same afternoon after they discovered the identity of the perpetrator.
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posted on Mar, 29 2014 @ 02:51 PM
reply to post by Sremmos80

I have the name of the company and all the individuals who cleaned up the scene at SH.

I also have the names and company who cleaned the Lanza house.

Can't believe any serious researcher couldn't easily find this info in 15 minutes on the web.

posted on Mar, 29 2014 @ 02:59 PM

reply to post by Sremmos80

I have the name of the company and all the individuals who cleaned up the scene at SH.

I also have the names and company who cleaned the Lanza house.

Can't believe any serious researcher couldn't easily find this info in 15 minutes on the web.

Oh sweet! What are they and what is your source?

posted on Mar, 29 2014 @ 03:10 PM
reply to post by zazen

Source is the horse's mouth sir!

Simply read the Newtown PD Field Case Supplemental Report. It's all there, including some stuff about a 2nd shooter and a "confidential informant".

posted on Mar, 30 2014 @ 11:29 PM
I see this has been moved to LOL now.

Exactly which post on this last page pushed it into this garbage bin ATS Overlord's?

Pretty much everything is from the Conn State Police Official Report?

What say you?

posted on Mar, 31 2014 @ 03:18 AM
reply to post by freedom12

Actually, (ATS Super Mod)¹⁰ re-opened this thread in the LOL forum, after its brief temporary closure, … back on page 3.

I've done it before too — commenting on similarly-named threads can get confusing, lol


posted on Apr, 2 2014 @ 07:43 PM
This LIE is final nail in the coffin of Halbig’s scam:

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