Goverment Researchers To Be Placed in U.S. Newsrooms.

NavyDoc
And yet, so many people think that the government is the only organization we can trust with running healthcare and owning guns.

That would have been bad enough if it would not have gotten even worse. After the people trusted them with those they ended up owning healthcare and running guns.

reply to post by skuly


THINGS CAN'T GET WORSE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE!

Especially when it comes to Fox. If you played a drinking game called "spot the propaganda tactics" while watching Fox, you would be throwing up within 2 minutes tops. I guess once you hit rock bottom, there is no where to go but up (pun intended).

reply to post by Erongaricuaro


Everyone should have free healthcare. There is plenty of money to go around. Take it out of the ruling class's tax bracket.

Running guns in Mexico...who cares? Without people "running guns" who are likely from our government, the Mexican Self Defense Force would likely not exist.

Well, MSM hasn't been the pillar of truth, justice and fair play for a long time now. Perhaps Walter Cronkite would have related to those ideals. Some who once did, like Dan Rather, probably wouldn't appreciate minders in the newsroom either. There are still some in modern news who came from the old world. Bob Woodward still writes and is a rather prolific writer at that for books of the type he produces. He's someone I still believe has integrity, but one of the very very few who may still and sit anywhere near a high or respected position in for-profit news.

The problem here I think, isn't the fact that MSM has been crappy and so what is there to see lost....but the fact that with Uncle Sam's little brothers in the newsrooms, MSM will never get better than they are right now. They could mint out a million fresh reporters from the most unbiased and fair minded schools in the world ...and when they can't get hired on where it matters, it won't make any difference. (sigh)

Reagan's words come back to me at moments like this....

If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.

-RONALD REAGAN, speech in support of Barry Goldwater, October 27, 1964

Freedom hadn't existed in the world as people have come to know it, prior to the United States. At least not within a time frame meaningful to recall for the people then. That's simple historical fact for how the power structures of the ruling class in other global powers functioned, at that point in history.

Sadly, we've lost much of that over time ourselves, now. We've gone backward in centralizing power in ways our nation was founded specifically to avoid and to shun as having failed in the past. We've actually come to embrace what we once saw our people fight and die to resist, for some examples.

Disturbing times...and in some ways, I'm glad I'm "over the hill" and not just starting up the near side of it for life. I at least enjoyed most of mine while America was still largely free, relative to today.

Sounds like they want to make sure their cronies play ball at all times. Also would be a great way to make sure they say the right things at the right time during false flag events. I guess they are sick of people being able to poke holes in the official story due to sloppy "journalism".

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Reagan saying that is the most hilariously ironic thing I have read all day.

So here we have it people, here we have just another example of this administration trying to bully the so-called free citizens of The United States of America.

However, now it's even one step worse, it's against the so-called free press! Which has not been free for decades anyway, but that is another discussion. The point still needs to be made, and it will.

Luckily, we still have the freedom of the internet. However, that is why these bottom feeders came up with this new idea. What we have here is the masters of puppets straight out just declaring that they will have red agents at every portal.

Before this, they just paid off the very few media tycoons that were / are their yes men, puppet lap dogs. However now, that is longer good enough because of all the maverick journalists running free on the net.

It's perfectly clear that these carpetbaggers want to induce fear, and terrorize the people who chose to report the news as their profession. They want to make them think twice, while also reminding them that big brother has his all knowing eye on them all the time.

What a disgrace to the USA. This is straight up Stalinist # going on right here my friends. This is them dipping their slimy toes into the water in order to see if they can take the cold, or if the sheople will even be alerted, or just typically herded once again.

This is a beta, a test. Speak out everywhere that you can online, and read between the lies if you love your country. ~$heopleNation

*stares owl-eyed from doorway, backs up slowly*

Minders in the news rooms? Yes, what a wonderful idea. Because all the countries with tightly state-controlled media are all hunk-dory bastions of utopian freedom.

What the hell, journalism used to mean something, like it was a lifeblood deal. Integrity and stuff. Now they're just going to bend over & lube up for the government? Are they all sell-outs now? If they don't push back, it's a pretty good sign the everyday citizens likely won't either.

FreeWillAnomaly
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Reagan saying that is the most hilariously ironic thing I have read all day.

I found nothing funny about it, personally. I recall the Presidency and I recall the man. I've even been out to his Library in Simi Valley a couple times. A great place with Air Force One you can walk through as well as a Star Wars Defense Initiative Satellite you can look at up close. Real interesting stuff...but I digress.

In many ways, he too was just another politician but in others, nothing at all like what we have today. He did bring in what made today possible with his choice for a Vice President. Stories have it, a choice he did live to regret, too. Learning about the man personally and the little quirks of the man himself really reminds me of how different many of the leaders were then compared to now. Perhaps all links in the same chain of events ...but the turn for the colder and worse is marked and clear. Not business as usual across 30 continuous years. Nope... A definite slide down, in my view.

FreeWillAnomaly
Reagan saying that is the most hilariously ironic thing I have read all day.

Actually, there was nothing "hilarious" about what Reagan said whatsoever because he said it back in 1964, in support of Barry Goldwater, who was a true American.

Reagan said it long before he was ever corrupted after occupying the Oval office. Or even after that, where he nearly had his head blown off by people who did not take kindly to hearing his pro-constitutional rhetoric.

You might want to study up on the Man, before you try to paint him as a puppet during his earlier years. Just some friendly advice my friend. ~$heopleNation

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You are talking about trickle down economics Reagan, right? Destroyer of the free world Reagan? They guy that paved the way for international bankers to get a death grip on the economy Reagan?

As opposed to the guy who actually did get his head blown off by the MIC for trying to enact change after serving on a PT boat in WWII, right after averting a nuclear war?

Only Republicans pretend to like Reagan, and they do this for acceptance among their peers.

Are you a member of the Tea Party?

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Reagan paved the way for things to slide down. Who would be dumb enough to trust rich people with money other than a sell out? Would you trust two crackheads to let crack trickle down to their crackhead friends?

Reagan is, as you stated, the reason for the state of affairs today. He paved the way for an endless left-right debate and gave the left more ammunition than the left gave to Mexico. He also paved the way for the ruling class to...well...continue ruling with an iron fist only this time it is made of reinforced space age metals.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

Only Republicans pretend to like Reagan, and they do this for acceptance among their peers.

I know a lot of democrats who respected Reagan, although few liked him then or now. Respect and Like are two very different things our leaders once appreciated the difference in. They don't anymore and they're happy if they're liked ...respect they consider a 'meh' type of thing. Appearances, for lack of a better word, used to matter. Reagan was among the last to care, even that much. He did care though.

He's also the man who sent checks from his own checking account on occasion, and as recounted by Secret Service agents in the years since, to hard luck letters he'd get. He really read some of his own mail. I wonder if Obama ever has, outside of political cherry picking stories for public announcement? Bush too, for that matter...and likely either of them.

The Bush's had a better reputation among staff and agents than Clinton and absolutely better than Obama. The Reagan family engendered respect on a personal as well as political level, IMO. Heck.....Reagan was among the last of the US Presidents who actually COULD still work with the other side, either side, in good faith. All that is gone now.

Did Reagan screw up? OH yeah.. I cuss his name on some issues, like the dismantling of US Mental Health systems in 1980/81. Iran/Contra did more damage to help create the troubles of today than people give credit (Who was recently re-elected in Central America..for instance? One of those LA quakes was Reagan rolling in his grave..lol). The hostages releasing within an hour or so of his inauguration ...wasn't merely a kind gesture by Iran to say 'Hi' to a new President either. Reagan had his problems..and a troll of a V.P. to boot. No one's perfect...

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Who cares about appearances and perceptions? What did he actually *do?* As a politician, I can't stand what he did. As a person, I can not judge him (therefore my perceptions of him, personally, are irrelevant).

But you know what is even MORE annoying? These days everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, is about perceptions and appearances. As you say, respect went out the window, but that was only feigned respect back in the day anyways. But what a person actually *does* is irrelevant to. It is all about what it *appears* to be. People need to stop trusting their perceptions. Look at Snyder's recent state of the state address if you have the time. This is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Pay attention to the voice he uses. It's almost as bad as Obama's (almost).

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly

Who cares about appearances and perceptions?

That's precisely the problem today with Obama and the one before him, particularly. No one does care at the top and when the top doesn't care, what comes down lower cares even less in direct proportion to how far from the top they get. It's always been that way, of course, but when appearances matter at the top, there is SOME decorum maintained on the way down the chain. The opposite holds equally true as anyone who has served in or been a part of complex management can attest to.

As far as what he did? I'm not speaking Russian today, in part and perhaps large part, due to 8 years of Reagan. Carter made this nation a laughing stock and paper tiger no one on Earth respected much. Similar to the situation we find ourselves in today, as a matter of fact. By the end, the Soviet Union admitted to leveraging debt beyond it's ability to manage further in the race to maintain place with us militarily and otherwise. That economic disaster that developed, again in large part, over the 1980's is what helped push their side over the edge (and perhaps not far ahead of our own side....had the cold war gone on much longer).

So, indeed...having lived the memories to recall now, I do credit Reagan. Not entirely, but he was there for the coup de grace and the most important final stages that determined which nation fell first.....and yeah..I do think it may well have been that close a thing, had it gone on many more years at 80's levels of commitment.

Getting back with the thread....these are all things that happened with a leader focused outward on action and really not focused on media of public attention like the absolute 7 day a week appearance rock star we've had for 5+ years now. Now that we're in perpetual campaign mode (Political Scientists credit Clinton largely with starting) and perpetually chasing the 24hr news cycle (I'll go with Bush for $100 there), control of the media is paramount and these nice minders Reagan would have screamed at the very thought of.....are apparently going to become a fixture. 1984 wasn't....but 2014 sure is.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


However, isn't there a chance that if not for trickle down economics, the media would not be completely controlled by, I think it is, 9 corporations who have instituted a complete information blackout and made real journalism a thing of the past?

Cliche alert: Power corrupts...Absolute power corrupts absolutely

I can't credit Reagan for me not speaking Russian. I can credit a lot of propaganda for being propaganda.

beezzer
reply to post by The Vagabond

 

With all due respect, I wish you'd put this in the Hoax Bin!

What is going to happen? I'm watching "Game of Thrones" and my "smart tv" will just switch to MSNBC because I didn't receive my daily allowance of "information"?

Through all your home entertainment equipment, that has mics and cameras for the purpose of monitoring you. (X-BOX1......)

We already know they are watching our net activity and monitoring all electronic information.

Why would they need complete information intake at all levels? What are they looking for, we all know it isnt the terrorists, that is and was always BS. It was used as an excuse to get us to where we are today.

The government is obviously preparing for something against the people, or they wouldnt be using more information tracking technologies and forces against us, than they do to gather intel before a big attack in actual warfare.

This is just the latest in many oversteps that keep taking place in gradual steps.

This pattern has been repeated more than once in modern times, it has never resulted in but one outcome. A government lockdown, and then the "undesirables" are rounded up, and then this other group of people are also "the bad guy", and they round them up, and so on wash rinse repeat................

I never really believed that Obama would be the president who either implemented this or allowed it to go on. People said for years, I was skeptical.........I dont know man, this is kinda crazy, it seems like alot of the same events we have doom porned over all seem to be converging towards an end game.

marg6043
reply to post by kosmicjack

 

Sadly is something wrong going on when people no longer trust their constitutional rights anymore, freedoms seems to become now something to be ashamed off rather than cherished, you can see that going on when the government is attacking those that try to protect any rights.

I can see that when people post agreeing with anything that is done in the nation in the name of protection and national security, the NSA spying is ok, the tracking of citizens is ok, drones in the sky is ok, attacking groups protesting against oppression and government expansion is ok because is not oppression is national security.

I can go on and on, the new generation growing up in this new America will have nothing to pass on to their children.

I was already worried, but you naming about half the things I am worried about is almost alarming, I was thinking the same thing.

Too many missteps in too many different directions that are seem to be following a pattern that has been seen before.

This story kind of makes me think of the situation that Adrian Cronauer had to deal with in "Good Morning Vietnam".

The big difference? The news agencies WANT to have these moles present.

reply to post by FreeWillAnomaly


We'll agree to disagree and figure we lived very different periods of time during the 1980's in America. Our perspectives are night/day radically different, to say the very least. Almost as if we were different generations all together, but I'm sure you did live through those years, right?

We can all have different takes on the same events though, and as noted, we couldn't possibly be further apart on politics. Particularly that span of years for recent American politics. To each their own.