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Sobek
adarma
Yes , watch the TRUE account made into a film called , The Fourth Kind .
depleteduranium92
I know Travis Walton hold the record for the longest abduction (5 days), but I'm wondering if there are others who were infact taken by the aliens and have not been returned.
Do you really believe they didn't dramatize the events in that film?
As for the OP, where is any evidence of alien abductions besides someones word?
AliceBleachWhite
adarma
Thank you for your analogy , very interesting . Dr John Mac did very good work into abduction experiencers . So if your theory is correct , how do you explain multiple abductions at the same time/place ?
hadn’t had high hopes for the book Abducted: How people Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped by Aliens by Dr. Susan A. Clancy. After all, the segment about abductions which featured her on Peter Jennings’s grossly-misleading “documentary” on February 24, 2005, was definitely unscientific. The focus was on sleep paralysis with no recognition being given to multiple persons being abducted at once, the fact that most abductions have taken place other than when the abductee was sleeping in bed, and that many people have recalled the details without the use of hypnosis. This despite the fact that all of these had been discussed by Budd Hopkins during his PJ interview, but never made the program. I also was not impressed with what she had to say on last July’s Larry King TV show. Still I was shocked by how much bias and prejudice she shows in the book. She should have been flunked for her gross inaccuracy in her accounts, brief though they were, of various cases about which I am well informed. Remember that her so-called research was conducted at Harvard University using government research grants and the book was published by Harvard University Press. I guess they couldn’t afford a fact checker.
Multiple people "abducted" at the same time?
Well, before jumping to fantastic conclusions for which there's no means to validate accountability, the rational approach would be to consider more prosaic solutions.
One higher likelihood everyday explanation would pin accountability on false testimony and collusion for whatever reason.
There's also sympathetic collusion or Asch Conformity in deference to the assertions of an 'Alpha' personality or unconscious social compliance.
If unfamiliar with this process, then the following video or the link provided may prove of interest:
An example of this group conformity in the wild can also be seen regarding a top UFO Case involving multiple witnesses claiming to have seen a huge 'mothership' UFO:
"Top Ten" UFO Case - Yukon, Canada, 1996 - BUSTED!?
There's also the issue of deference to authority, which, in many cases with abduction experiences involves UFO Investigators and sloppy interview procedure which contaminates witness statements in telling the interviewer what they think the interviewer wants to hear, and/or poor interviewing allowing for cross contamination between multiple witnesses.
Further, any results requiring hypnosis for recollection are inadmissible due the relative ease with which False Memory Syndrome occurs.
Additionally, quite sadly so, there's also the nutter demographic that's invariably always attracted to fringe subjects.
These more mundane explanations, though unpopular among many adherents to fringe related phenomenon, hold greater likelihood as probable explanations over smaller, less likely speculations involving Space Aliens.
Notable Physicist Richard Feynman in talking about Flying Saucers, which could also apply to the Alien Abduction phenomenon has a fun statement regarding likelihood or probability:
"... from my knowledge of the world that I see around me, I think that it is much more likely that the reports of flying saucers are the results of the known irrational characteristics of terrestrial intelligence than of the unknown rational efforts of extra-terrestrial intelligence." It is just more likely. That is all." -Feynman.
In other words, from what we know, can prove, examine, and can also replicate, It's more likely attribution can be given to something we already know, than to something we don't know.
edit on 2/19/2014 by AliceBleachWhite because: (no reason given)
Jefferton
reply to post by adarma
The Fourth Kind is as fake as Santa.
Misinformation
depleteduranium92
Has anyone been abducted for more than 2+weeks and returned?
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The Aliens have time travel ,,,they could abduct someone for a whole lifetime & bring them back a second after they were abducted ,,.....they could travel back in time and erase any evidence that they were ever seen when the need arisesedit on 19-2-2014 by Misinformation because: (no reason given)
On the night of November 29, 1980, gale force winds tore through the central portion of Vancouver Island, knocking out the electricity and sending locals scurrying for shelter. In the midst of this violent storm a shy and uncannily bright young man posted a short note on his father’s bedroom door and walked out of his parents’ home leaving all of his worldly possessions behind, including $10,000. He climbed into his 1972, pale blue Datsun pick-up, drove past the flying saucer replica he had built in his backyard and was never heard from again.
raedar
reply to post by depleteduranium92
I'm always surprised how many people come to the UFO forum to debunk or express complete disbelief. I guess I don't really care; I just feel bad for people that post topics and then it's off to the races.
Here's an interesting story about a man that disappeared forever. It's an interesting story presented as fact. Even if it's not true, it's a good read.
Mysterious Universe
On the night of November 29, 1980, gale force winds tore through the central portion of Vancouver Island, knocking out the electricity and sending locals scurrying for shelter. In the midst of this violent storm a shy and uncannily bright young man posted a short note on his father’s bedroom door and walked out of his parents’ home leaving all of his worldly possessions behind, including $10,000. He climbed into his 1972, pale blue Datsun pick-up, drove past the flying saucer replica he had built in his backyard and was never heard from again.
StormyStars
reply to post by AliceBleachWhite[/Text Purple
My life's career has been in medicine & psychology. What you said was utter nonsense!
But most especially, my Mom & Dad, myself & 1 of my close cousins' were ALL taken for 2 weeks!
We didn't tell a soul till this very moment because of people like YOU.
You may be in training or you've read some, " Psychology Today." & now you THINK you know it all.
You don't.
I would have remained silent about it forever.
You pissed me off with your nonsensical psycho babble. So explain to me how 4 people just went poof! For that because we couldn't.
We ALL could never explain it, much. So we remained silent about THAT incident even amongst each other after a time.
Now today I broke it. But my parents passed on within 4 moths of each other, my Mom at age 67 October 2012 & my Dad age 84 February 2012.
Also, we ALL HAD Cancers' at various times.
My late Mom & I continued to be taken, contacted, & have come back with new scars or the little cysts, which in 2008, proved to be foreign metallic CHIPS. That didn't help us remain quiet, but we did.
My late Mom was taken most often.
We ALL had radiation burns BEFORE Cancers'.
I'm not saying anything more no matter if you, & how you respond to this. I just wanted to read, not comment...
AliceBleachWhite
Everything we see and experience goes through the brain. Direct stimuli to the brain, as in the case with tumors, and even chemical tampering can provide complete and total sensory experiences indistinguishable from reality for those experiencing them.
violetAlso, Mack was fooled by someone pretending.edit on 19-2-2014 by violet because: (no reason given)