reply to post by Daedalus
Most of the replies from you, to me, have been posts NOT to you. What' s your point? I answered, because it wasn't what he said. I pointed out rather
succinctly, what he said.
again, and it's really annoying that you can't seem to understand this....i pointed out factually inaccurate statements that you had made, regardless
of whether or not the posts were addressed to me or not, does not change the fact that the statements were factually inaccurate.
what you did was go off on me, when i asked someone to clarify what they meant, which is only something the person who made the statement can do.
there is a HUGE difference.
And I, just like you, will reply any time I feel like it, to whom I feel like. Suck it up, cupcake, and put on your big boy pants. What's good
for the goose is good for the gander.
deliberately antagonistic. never said don't reply.....what you shouldn't do is attempt to speak for someone, when they are the only one who can answer
the question "what did you mean?"
I have been called all sorts of names, been accused of being a muslim hater, all sorts of things. A lo of assumptions were made about me for
simply posting factual evidence to a thread. I was screamed at
And you are going to preach to me? Seriously?
i never accused you of being a muslim hater...i asked if you had a problem with them, or disliked them...i was trying to get you to explain your
position..it was a valid question. i was, and still am trying to understand why you give so much credence to a source that is dubious at best...i'm
curious why you seem to agree with this "terrorists are everywhere" thing....if you don't agree with it, then i am sorry, and must have misunderstood
i was mentioning decaf, because you seemed to be rather hyper, and were all over the place.....you weren't making a whole lot of sense, and you kept
harping on the "fact" that the people in texas, are in the same group that killed daniel pearl, when i demonstrated that this was simply not the
i was trying to get you to calm down....you made some valid points, and pulled up quite a bit of information, but your execution of connecting the
dots was faulty.
I said there were jewish people involved. Never glossed over that, denied that, said it wasn't true.
this is very true....BUT, you seem to want to minimize it, and ignore the evidence to suggest that this "news outlet" is a front...
I did, however, point out that the Muslim involvement in Clarion is quite prominent, along with other prominent, well known, astute people that
have participated in think tanks and received a large amount of respect and notoriety for their positions and opinions are also involved with Clarion.
That part cannot be denied, as well.
they have one muslim on their board, and one "featured expert" who is a muslim, and another who is american-born, of egyptian descent, but is an
expert on middle eastern affairs....that's hardly prominent.....on the other side of the spectrum, you have board members, and "featured experts" who
are affiliated with pro-israel organizations, and D.C. thinktanks....it really doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in their ability to remain
impartial, and report the facts without some form of spin..
It would be rather difficult to take the stances suggested when you have the types of people involved, Moderate Muslims, who would most
certainly have an issue about their reputations being entangled in that sort of misperception, don't you think? Perhaps, just perhaps, the nastiness
that was posted about Clarion was far more partisan and biased than the other way around.
the moderates involved want to demonize islamic extremism(and rightfully so), so long as their goals allign with the other entities involved, i don't
see why they'd have an issue working with them...
again, i'll say, i was only pointing out the ties to groups, the slant and apparent agenda at work, and the spin...the (what, to me, looks like)
propaganda, designed to insight fear, and paranoia...generating an air of "the enemy is everywhere"....it's a vibe that permeates their site...
But, as was pointed out above, it's really sad that people complain that moderate muslims never take a stand, and when they finally do, they
get slapped down because they have Jewish partners. How utterly, stinkin' sad. They can't win for losing. Say nothing, they are wrong, take a stand
against extremism, they have an "agenda".
plenty of moderate muslims speak out against islamic extremism, and jihad, and terrorism....it just doesn't get as loud a voice, because it promotes
peace, rational thinking, and cooperation....things that are antithetical to the current designs of TPTB, which are domination, control, perpetual
fear, and endless war.. because of this, it doesn't gather much mainstream attention...so we end up with endless reports of "oh my god, they're
everywhere, and they wanna kill us all"...which scares the bejesus out of people..
Done with the thread. The ending was delicious.
sorry to see you go, i was quite enjoying the debate..
edit on 22-2-2014 by Daedalus because: (no reason given)