Russian Computer Virus 666 .... Can Kill You

I can't believe there aren't more IT folks jumping in to say this is nonsense. (It is)

wulff
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus

 

This is totally a HOAX, there is nothing a computer virus can do to harm a human, only programs and sometimes (rarely) peripherals.
I didn't read all of this but I was wonder where your info came from (before the mods move this to the HOAX thread)?

well....I do this thing called...."reading".....and I am reading a book by Dr. Len Horowitz where it stated that this Russian 666 virus was admitted by more than three highly respected Russian scientists. Dr. Horowitz even claimed that it was researched and covered in the Army Manual.

So, since my interest is peaked....I do something else....which is called "research"....and found some interesting stuff which was linked in my original post on this thread....

it is there for you to do the same....if you so choose.

but mind control is very real and mind control through visual queue is very well studied and documented so I don't see how this is that big of a stretch and certainly not in hoaxville.

kabfighter
reply to post by LABTECH767

 

I will say this again: the heart beats independently of the nervous system. People who are brain dead (brain stem, everything) will still have a heart beat because certain cardiac cells have a property called 'automaticity', which allows them to generate action potentials spontaneously. Any arrhythmia (atrioventricular block, ventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation, ventricular fibrillation, junctional rhythms, etc.) is caused by a defect in the heart's electrical system. There is no way that subliminal messaging could cause any sort of altered heart rhythm.

then why does your heart race when you are scared? Fear is in the mind....not the heart. Oh...because the brain is telling the heart to beat faster to get ready to either fight or run. Or maybe the heart knew to do that on it's own?

Biigs
No one has called it yet so i will.

SHENANIGANS!!!!!

The same bull# that says that coke makes you buy it subconsciously, i watch TV and read magazines, i manage to not buy it.

uh...if advertising didn't work.....they wouldn't do it.

and subliminal advertising works too well....there is tons of research on this....even Congressional hearings...

Kuebel33
I can't believe there aren't more IT folks jumping in to say this is nonsense. (It is)

why would IT folks know? I am surprised more brain researchers aren't jumping in here to say that is is fact.

This is a brain thing....not an IT thing

Of course it is nonsense, but still a fun(ny) read.

But for a better dose of entertainment along the same lines, read Snowcrash. Brilliant book about how future America might look, with subject matter directly relating to viruses that could affect a person.

reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
reminds of the tv series "Chuck" where he is implanted with all the nsa ansd cia secrets thru a visual series of images within images

reply to post by UxoriousMagnus


Doesn't spirituality offer that firewall, whether you believe in god or you have a good soul and live a spiritual life you are protected from such things?

I believe so.

UxoriousMagnus

kabfighter
reply to post by LABTECH767

 

I will say this again: the heart beats independently of the nervous system. People who are brain dead (brain stem, everything) will still have a heart beat because certain cardiac cells have a property called 'automaticity', which allows them to generate action potentials spontaneously. Any arrhythmia (atrioventricular block, ventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation, ventricular fibrillation, junctional rhythms, etc.) is caused by a defect in the heart's electrical system. There is no way that subliminal messaging could cause any sort of altered heart rhythm.

then why does your heart race when you are scared? Fear is in the mind....not the heart. Oh...because the brain is telling the heart to beat faster to get ready to either fight or run. Or maybe the heart knew to do that on it's own?

I've covered this. The autonomic nervous system can influence the heart rate, but it does not cause the heart to beat. Beta blockers are used to decrease the effects of beta-adrenergic (sympathetic) chemicals within the body, resulting in a slower rate and less forceful contractions. Likewise, epinephrine can be administered to increase the heart rate. The central nervous system cannot change the path of conduction within the heart.

wulff
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus

 

This is totally a HOAX, there is nothing a computer virus can do to harm a human, only programs and sometimes (rarely) peripherals.
I didn't read all of this but I was wonder where your info came from (before the mods move this to the HOAX thread)?

the OP's quote ...

but my thoughts are, that just because it hasn't been used and found by virus detection software, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

he's NOT saying it's true.. he's just posting what he found and posing a question...not a statement....ensuring you read the entire OP would lesson the amount of mis-understanding

could it be a hoax ? Yes.. did the OP state that it was a reality ? NO

Sounds like Snow Crash...
I don't find it completely implausible.
The optic nerve is essentially an extension of the brain.
I don't know that it'd be very simple to imprint the brain with the instruction of one's choosing, but if one were to crack the code, who is to say what the limitations would be?
Memeticsis certainly a real phenomenon, who is to say this isn't how it works?

old_god
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus

 

Doesn't spirituality offer that firewall, whether you believe in god or you have a good soul and live a spiritual life you are protected from such things?

I believe so.

I don't think so. Obviously if you believe in an all powerful God....then He can protect you from "anything" but this isn't a spiritual or demonic thing in and of itself.

It is simply information being put into your head....just like information is put into your head when you read a book or watch a movie. But in this situation it is information you don't want and don't know you are getting.

demonhauntedworld
Sounds like Snow Crash...
I don't find it completely implausible.
The optic nerve is essentially an extension of the brain.
I don't know that it'd be very simple to imprint the brain with the instruction of one's choosing, but if one were to crack the code, who is to say what the limitations would be?
Memeticsis certainly a real phenomenon, who is to say this isn't how it works?

another member mentioned Snow Crash as well. I must admit it has been about 16 years or so since I read that but it is interesting that he wrote that book back when these things were being "tested" if they were indeed being tested.

I can't remember what all happened in that book though.

999zxcv
nasty ruskies were using the woodpecker signal on us then chernobal blew up which was supplying the juice i can believe this story nice find

Actually the theory that the 'woodpecker signal' was some type of Russian mind control device has been widely debunked. The signal was later found the emanating from the now defunct Duga-3 over-the-horizon radar system.

kabfighter

UxoriousMagnus

kabfighter
reply to post by LABTECH767

 

I will say this again: the heart beats independently of the nervous system. People who are brain dead (brain stem, everything) will still have a heart beat because certain cardiac cells have a property called 'automaticity', which allows them to generate action potentials spontaneously. Any arrhythmia (atrioventricular block, ventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation, ventricular fibrillation, junctional rhythms, etc.) is caused by a defect in the heart's electrical system. There is no way that subliminal messaging could cause any sort of altered heart rhythm.

then why does your heart race when you are scared? Fear is in the mind....not the heart. Oh...because the brain is telling the heart to beat faster to get ready to either fight or run. Or maybe the heart knew to do that on it's own?

I've covered this. The autonomic nervous system can influence the heart rate, but it does not cause the heart to beat. Beta blockers are used to decrease the effects of beta-adrenergic (sympathetic) chemicals within the body, resulting in a slower rate and less forceful contractions. Likewise, epinephrine can be administered to increase the heart rate. The central nervous system cannot change the path of conduction within the heart.

and you make good points. I am just saying that the article says the virus can cause arrhythmia which is unusual or erratic heart beats. Not stopping or starting the actual heart beats themselves.

Dr. Martin A. Samuels, MD has studied the brain-heart connection extensively and published his findings

It is likely that the increased tendency for life-threatening arrhythmias found in patients with acute neurological disease is a result of the repolarization change,

Nervous system stimulation produces cardiac lesions that are histologically indistinguishable from those described for stress and catecholamine-induced cardiac damage

link to his work: circ.ahajournals.org...

Re- Snow Crash

Short answer from memory is that Gilgamesh or the like is the first modern man and the father of civilization, the one who turned humans from animals into people, because he figured out how to program his fellow humans with useful memetic viruses.. virii... whatever, such as instructions on how to grow food, bake bread, etc.

The virus also has a biological component which is sexually transmitted, the explanation being that back in the day, something like a "temple prostitute" was not looked down upon at all, and in fact was looked up to in the community because it was useful for passing along instructive viruses. Then along came things like organized religions that wanted control over the dissemination of said instructions, and demonized those who passed them around without their approval (i.e. prostitutes and promiscuous types in general).

Flash forward to modern day, the population interacts with each other in cyberspace via VR headsets, and someone finds a way to write a memetic virus and communicate it through the optic nerve, via said headset, directly interfacing with the human brain, and with bad intentions.

It reminds of this quote by Gen George Patton, re- the Russians.

The difficulty in understanding the Russians is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.

It is patently racist on the face of it, but perhaps the problem is not one of race or racism, but that the brain *does* have a firewall, and not all brains are susceptible to the same memetic virus. If value for human life is something that must be learned culturally, and I think we would all agree that it is, then perhaps what is needed for world peace is not diplomacy but a novel method of instruction delivery.
Something to think about in any case.

Maybe this explains why the U.S. Government created laws that eliminate analog TV in favor of digital HDTV.

If you think back, they went after this with a fervor, created laws, and implemented the plan (more or less) flawlessly. They even gave away $40 gift certificates to anyone who asked for them, when the digital converter box cost $40.

Something very suspicious about the government insisting that we all have an awesome TV experience, if you ask me.

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If this is an actual fact, then it seems obvious this kind of technology can also be used for good as well as bad?

If it can influence a person on a subconscious level in negative ways, it should also be possible to affect people in positive ways too shouldn't it?

reply to post by ypperst


How is killing someone outright better than looking at their porn habits online? Just a question.

MysterX
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus

 

If this is an actual fact, then it seems obvious this kind of technology can also be used for good as well as bad?

If it can influence a person on a subconscious level in negative ways, it should also be possible to affect people in positive ways too shouldn't it?

I think it could....but how?

maybe to help people kick addiction or something like that? Is this what you mean?