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buster2010
reply to post by beezzer
I also thought that the little dust-up we had with the King was over taxation.
You are half right. That little dust up was because of taxation without representation.
buster2010
neo96
reply to post by buster2010
Fine lets talk about history like California, Pelosi's state didn't exist at the writing of the Declaration, or the Constitution,.
And women didn't have the right to vote, and women congressman were unheard off.
So women should be told to get back into the kitchen and remember their place?
buster2010
neo96
reply to post by buster2010
Fine lets talk about history like California, Pelosi's state didn't exist at the writing of the Declaration, or the Constitution,.
And women didn't have the right to vote, and women congressman were unheard off.
So women should be told to get back into the kitchen and remember their place?
NavyDoc
buster2010
reply to post by neo96
The founding fathers would support being forced to buy a corporate products, and if they didn't they get fined by government for not doing so.
If you knew more about the founding fathers you would know they had no problem with forcing people to buy corporate products and tax people for corporate services.
The second militia act of 1792 forced all male citizens to buy weapons and ammo. Both of which are corporate products.
And passed a law in 1795 that charged a fee to ships that docked in America to help pay for medical services for injured sailors.
Jefferson also said in a letter to Madison that the wealthy should be taxed for every cent the government could get out of them to pay for social services to the poor.
Sounds like they would have had no problem with the ACA.
Fees and tariffs certainly were part of the constitution.
I'd like to see a copy of that letter from Jefferson to Madison.
No, they would have a problem with the ACA because they put in the 9th and 10th Amendments. Maintaining a militia was part of the Constitutionally duties enumerated for the Federal Government. Making sure everyone had healthcare was not. Both Madison and Jefferson would have said, and rightly so, it was a state issue, not one of the Federal government. If they would have wanted it to be, they would have insisted that it was put in there.
Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.
So women should be told to get back into the kitchen and remember their place?
neo96
buster2010
neo96
reply to post by buster2010
Fine lets talk about history like California, Pelosi's state didn't exist at the writing of the Declaration, or the Constitution,.
And women didn't have the right to vote, and women congressman were unheard off.
So women should be told to get back into the kitchen and remember their place?
Did I say that ?
No.
hounddoghowlie
reply to post by neo96
first the founders would have never passed a law with out knowing what was in it.
they use to squabble about every little detail about that a word meant.
buster2010
neo96
reply to post by buster2010
Fine lets talk about history like California, Pelosi's state didn't exist at the writing of the Declaration, or the Constitution,.
And women didn't have the right to vote, and women congressman were unheard off.
So women should be told to get back into the kitchen and remember their place?
buster2010
NavyDoc
buster2010
reply to post by neo96
The founding fathers would support being forced to buy a corporate products, and if they didn't they get fined by government for not doing so.
If you knew more about the founding fathers you would know they had no problem with forcing people to buy corporate products and tax people for corporate services.
The second militia act of 1792 forced all male citizens to buy weapons and ammo. Both of which are corporate products.
And passed a law in 1795 that charged a fee to ships that docked in America to help pay for medical services for injured sailors.
Jefferson also said in a letter to Madison that the wealthy should be taxed for every cent the government could get out of them to pay for social services to the poor.
Sounds like they would have had no problem with the ACA.
Fees and tariffs certainly were part of the constitution.
I'd like to see a copy of that letter from Jefferson to Madison.
No, they would have a problem with the ACA because they put in the 9th and 10th Amendments. Maintaining a militia was part of the Constitutionally duties enumerated for the Federal Government. Making sure everyone had healthcare was not. Both Madison and Jefferson would have said, and rightly so, it was a state issue, not one of the Federal government. If they would have wanted it to be, they would have insisted that it was put in there.
Here you go.
Equality
Here's the important part.
Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.
I'll dumb it down for you. The wealthy owns the most property like it says in the letter.edit on 17-2-2014 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)
The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children, or to all the brothers and sisters, or other relations in equal degree is a politic measure, and a practicable one.
I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable.
It is too soon yet in our country to say that every man who cannot find employment but who can find uncultivated land, shall be at liberty to cultivate it, paying a moderate rent.
Hoosierdaddy71
reply to post by alldaylong
what are you doing about it now?
alldaylong
Hoosierdaddy71
reply to post by alldaylong
what are you doing about it now?
Not willing supporting anyone or anything that uses cheap labour.
What are you doing? Are you following your founding fathers actions or have you got a back bone?
Hoosierdaddy71
reply to post by alldaylong
Thats because America invented slavery! No wait, that's not right. Slavery still exists today, what are you doing about it now?