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you are not right for the Roman catholic church. It is generally known among the non catholics as that.
The term Roman Catholic is not used by the Church herself; it is a relatively modern term, and one, moreover, that is confined largely to the English language. The English-speaking bishops at the First Vatican Council in 1870, in fact, conducted a vigorous and successful campaign to insure that the term Roman Catholic was nowhere included in any of the Council's official documents about the Church herself, and the term was not included.
Similarly, nowhere in the 16 documents of the Second Vatican Council will you find the term Roman Catholic. Pope Paul VI signed all the documents of the Second Vatican Council as "I, Paul. Bishop of the Catholic Church." Simply that -- Catholic Church. There are references to the Roman curia, the Roman missal, the Roman rite, etc., but when the adjective Roman is applied to the Church herself, it refers to the Diocese of Rome! (Source)
Perhaps all those 1 bln+ catholics go every Sunday on mass, yes? Or we have to cut the number in half or one third.
Perhaps priceless documents are still inside the secret Vatican archive. Including documents of Jesus' time. I expect the time they will be made public.
The cardinal proto-deacon Jean-Louis Tauran made the solemn announcement to the people at 8.12 p.m. from the external loggia of the Hall of Blessings of the Vatican Basilica following the white smoke which occurred at 7.06 p.m.
Following are the words pronounced by Cardinal Tauran:
Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum;
Eminentissimum ac Reverendissimum Dominum,
Dominum Georgium Marium
Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae Cardinalem Bergoglio
qui sibi nomen imposuit Franciscum.
[I announce to you with great joy;
We have a Pope;
The most eminent and most reverend Lord
Lord Jorge Mario
Cardinal of Holy Roman Church Bergoglio
Who has taken the name Francis.]
Oh I bet those ones are not listed even among the secret ones...Perhaps they are buried under the tomb of Peter.
You'd better address more historical issues, and say whether or not you support the papal move to change.
A document obtained by The Associated Press on Friday shows Pope Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests over just two years for sexually molesting children.
The statistics for 2011 and 2012 show a dramatic increase over the 171 priests removed in 2008 and 2009, when the Vatican first provided details on the number of priests who have been defrocked. Prior to that, it had only publicly revealed the number of alleged cases of sexual abuse it had received and the number of trials it had authorized.
While it's not clear why the numbers spiked in 2011, it could be because 2010 saw a new explosion in the number of cases reported in the media in Europe and beyond.
The document was prepared from data the Vatican had been collecting and was compiled to help the Holy See defend itself before a U.N. committee this week in Geneva.
At least the church is letting people go to the police now.
I left that institution years ago, don't expect me back.
reply to post by 2012newstart
How about the vatican releasing all of the hidden information it holds, simply to keep you in bondage?
reply to post by stok3th3fir3
“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
― Fulton J. Sheen
reply to post by stok3th3fir3
Seriously, in all charity, please educate yourself in regards to what Catholicism teaches. Talk to a priest, go to Catholic sites. Don't just regurgitate what you've been told by other non-Catholics. Heck, even do a quick search on these forums and you'll find many of your "facts" have been refuted over and over.