posted on Feb, 19 2014 @ 07:06 PM
reply to post by QueenofSpades
He should NOT have to retreat.
Regarding Zimmerman, he didn't have to follow either, gun in hand and all, considering as well that he was not under threat at all. Regardless he
went right ahead. I'm also not sure how chasing after somebody who was initially minding their own business constitutes as defense either. And before
you claim he was not "chasing" Trayvon, Zimmerman certainly thought he did as clearly demonstrated by the audio where he claimed trayvon saw him and
was running away, this is further indicated towards the end of the audio where Zimmerman got frustrated that Trayvon "got away". This is not
defense, unfortunately Florida's twisted stand your ground law makes it so.
I'm just saying that there is no proof to the contrary. The contrary being that he didn't see a gun, or even what he perceived to be a gun.
The gun does not have to be on the scene.
There's no proof that Dunn shot in self defense, none. No proof that Dunn was under threat. Dunn has only claimed he thought he saw a gun and that's
it. Fact of the matter is there was none found in the SUV and there's no evidence pointing to either of those boys threatening him, only Dunn's
claims. Maybe they insulted him but that's it. Dunn has nothing but his words, he fired and killed a boy because his pride got hurt which frankly
isn't an excuse at all to murder, he also continued to fire at the vehicle which is further evidence of nil self defence. People like Dunn and
Zimmerman are cowards, they use their guns to fulfill their sense of entitlement above the people in society because you know? They can't deal with
things like real men. Fortunately Dunn is going to be locked away.
2. According to ear witness Rachel Jeantel, Trayvon had made it home and awaited Zimmerman by bushes. It was dark.
Rachel Jeantel said this? That Trayvon was hiding in the bushes waiting for Zimmerman? Where's your source? I'm curious.
Besides, wasn't it his own witness that said he made it home (dad's girldfriend's house) and DECIDED to return to his "stalker" and
confront him....and also physically attacking him simply because he didn't like being 'followed'.
Firstly there was no evidence that Trayvon decided to "return" to Zimmerman only to start the confrontation, none. Zimmerman claimed this is what
happened but to date no evidence has popped up indicating this, Zimmerman's testimony is not "evidence". Regarding the bruises on Zimmerman, this
is evidence of a physical confrontation, not necessarily evidence of Zimmerman's innocence. When Zimmerman reported that he lost sight of Trayvon
after running after him, the dispatcher recommended he go and meet the police officers at the letter boxes at the entrance of the gated community away
from the direction where Martin was heading. What did Zimmerman say? He said he wanted the police to call him
when they got there because
obviously he wasn't interested in leaving martin alone.
You want the audio transcript? Link below:
Facts you say? You clearly have none. Maybe you should slow down on the
and look at the situation more objectively.