reply to post by ImaFungi
For arguments sake lets refer to 'something' as energy/matter
- Something exists
- Something cannot come from nothing
- Therefore something has always existed
- Therefore there is no 'beginning' to the existence of something
- Therefore in duration, in temporality, the past is eternal/infinite
I agree with all 5 of those points. The idea that we create something from nothing, or that anything is created by something is false. One thing
changes into something else. Or, multiple things come together to change into something else. That's the way it is and has always been, I think.
So, what we have is the totality of a system that could contain 5 googol universes, lets say. Whatever, it's one immense thing with all these little
things inside of it that has existed forever. Why? Who the hell knows, and it really doesn't matter. The fact is, it's there and has been forever. We
don't make the rules...
Ok great, I'm fine with all of that. One big petri dish of ever changing organisms.
On to the next one,
Then the potential paradox (perhaps one of them) is wondering how this moment, this arrangement is possible to exist. Now I believe the logic
of those bullets above are quite sound, but this argument I have began with this new paragraph right here is more inquisitive speculation and
This is where I might have to question your question. Why would it not be possible for this current configuration of time to exist? So what that the
changes have been occurring over an infinite time line (or loop). At some point (in time) the system is going to reach a certain configuration from
the previous one, before it changes into the next one. So in this sense time is either linear, OR perhaps it could even be cyclical. We could be in
the 1 millionth billionth trillionth cycle of this configuration. And there could be just as many configurations, that will each get their turn to
exist (again and again, over and over) when the time comes. Like a spinning wheel of fortune...
If we imagine the history of something as the number line: Negative infinity...-1...0...1... Positive infinity
And we imagine ourselves (lets say we pause time) to exists at 0; I am asking if there is an infinite series of events towards the negative, the
past, how did we ever get to this sequence. Just as we can never approach a moment of positive infinity, only ever approach, how did we ever escape
or leave the eternal past, there are infinite digits to the left, the past, it cannot be arrived at or grasped, no beginning.
Again, my thoughts are that if there is a time line of specific configurations, and change (time) is moving in one direction along this line of
sequences, then at some point, even in infinity, each one of those sequences/configurations/states will be realized. And maybe never again, OR, again
when the cycle repeats itself.
Not sure if this addresses your post in the manner you want. But I feel I may need a better understanding of what your notion of time is/isn't as I
try to grasp the rationale of a finite amount of matter, but an infinite duration of it.
How do you feel about these:
1) Time is change (of energy/matter/stuff) (as you've stated)
2) Time is the duration of change (represented by some unit of measure, of energy/matter/stuff)
(for the record, I believe there are two notions of time, although I get the sense you want there only to be one)
Anyway, just my 2c
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