It's going to take a limited extintion level event. Sorry.

Who are they that will not allow us to gain control? They are the military, industrial, C.I.A etc., bankers, high-level politicians, and just maybe their alien overlords. Many of them worship evil.

They have technology to maintain their control, even if the great mass of sleepers wake up. This technology is not going to be defeated by demonstrations. Not even close.

Only an extinction level event, or the appearance by a benevolent ET species, could possibly negate the control currently guiding our world by the power junkies, human and non-human.

Extinction level event, with some of us surviving, might be our best chance.

I agree that it is going to take something bigger than holding hands and singing protest songs on the White House lawn.

Extinction level will only leave less of us and more of them IMO. The ones with a little bit of money will always fare better. They start off better, they have better contacts, more access to medical options, bunkers, etc. etc. etc. and they usually skate through more often in the end. The poor of us will die much faster if such an event were to occur.

I think at some point there will need to be an uprising. While our numbers FAR outweigh their's... we need to act. The problem with that is, we are always waiting for someone else to start it, and others to join it before we want to join in. Therefore it never happens. They know this. Those in charge have always known this. We are lazy in that regard. Myself included since I am typing this instead of grabbing my pitchfork and torch.

There will be violence. While I do not condone violence, it will be what sets off either a change for the better or a change for the worse. It's a gamble too many folks are too comfortable to take right now. Things will have to become much harder for everybody before folks start getting pissed off enough to leave their la-z-boys. Those days will make these days look like unicorns, rainbows, and cotton candy.

At one point we will have to stop waiting....

Yep...sure thing
......next.
Go break some laws and piss of some big time people and see how your world view changes.

It does make one wonder what it will take for the people to stand up as a whole, not as opposing teams, against the out of control government

Catastrophes, unfortunatley, seems to be the only thing now a days that brings people together

And until we stand as one against TPTB, nothing will change the rocky course that our country is on
No one wants to rock the boat, so to speak

No one wants to draw attention to themselves
The IRS has turned into a modern day Gestapo, and can make a person's life hell if they are deemed a threat or have opposing views

Not sure if there is a SHTF type of scenario that could put a stop to the crazed greedy monsters in DC, but something sure needs to happen before our country implodes

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Did someone come into your home and take your money or enslave you at gun point? The real question is, Who Gave them the power and all the money? I don't think a partial extinction will solve the stupidity of greed and the gullible.

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You'd be surprised what benevolent human beings can do to move the course of history in a good way.

Nature man, kicks ass.

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Who Gave them the power and all the money?

The system gives them power and keeps them in power. Some had the foresight to form clans and build up their position from the ground up (but few of those are left) most of the ones on top today got there by simply gaming and abusing the system (in the US for example the Kennedy family, Bush etc ) and at the same time preventing others to do the same as much as they could.

Let's see…

Plague….

Nope.

Peasants were still peasants after this.

Ever read the extinction level events that take place in the book of Revelation of the AV Holy Bible?

Nothing new complete with global warming and mass extinction of 90% of the worlds population.

Every plot in every book or movie can be found in the AV Holy Bible.

Go back read it again.

Our best chance for or of what? What is it now? We need to die so that what can happen? Your post is very unclear . What are you saying?

We can't think of this as a nationalistic problem.

"The U.S. has to stand up against its radical government!"

"The Asians have to realize that there is a western world that offers more than old-world ways!"

"Africa has to sort out the food problem!"

"The middle east has to fix the religious wars!"

Etcetera.

We have to, as a species, find a common ground, something that binds us all together. A common problem. In every country there is an issue, something that is troublesome yet different to other countries.

We need to find a way to equalise these issues. We need to make people see that as a species, these issues make up, collectively, the broken path that lies before us; the path that stops us from evolving into a beautiful species that will go on for eons, towards the infinity of creativeness.

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While an extinction level event will give TPTB a brief advantage, it will be short lived. Because they rely heavily on the masses to do all the dirty little jobs they won't. No one to make medicine, it runs out. No one to run power plants or make new solar panels, electricity gone. No one to build hospitals, surgery becomes in the kitchen without anesthesia. No one to make gas or autos or batteries, no way to get together to plot to retake the world. Who is going to listen to an old has been "leader" who refuses to go into the fields and work? Dead weight until more than survival level population reestablishes.

Good post though.

1Providence1
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You'd be surprised what benevolent human beings can do to move the course of history in a good way.

Nature man, kicks ass.

There is a huge problem with benevolent and very well meaning, even very intelligent and enlightened human beings. You know the old saying power corrupts, and corrupts completely. No human being can stay benevolent with enough power to move the course of history. That is why the US was smart enough to put term limits on Presidents, but quite foolish not to put them on all elected officials. Let them rule while they are still benevolent and kick them out as soon as they become enamored with their power. i.e. "The cool thing about being President is I can do anything."

Maybe this is why scientists see near extinction level events happening to what now appear to be very advanced civilizations on earth every several hundreds of thousands of years or so. Earth is cleansing itself of "harmful bacteria" (ie humans), while keeping enough to be beneficial. (this in an analogy, I'm not a greenie)

First things first, eradicate religion, completely, next, sort out food storage and distribution, third, disarm all police, except for crack squads who are properly trained) and the semi police organisations, (any alphabet organisation) fourth, common sense lawyers and judges.
Lastly, the politicians, oh what a job that is going to be, if you really want that odious job, you will have to divest your self of your money, your stocks and shares, your directorships, and live on the mythical 'average' wage, seems it will be real people in the senate, at last, "yeah, some hope".

Think.....WEATHER! Man-made!!!

We are heading towards a large scale ELE due to man's destruction of the Earth's natural resources. Our fresh water sources are being poisoned and some are drying up, our forests are being destroyed, the oceans are being over fished and polluted at an alarming rate. The air we breathe is also polluted. The agriculture industry is selling GMO food products that have pesticides embedded in their modified DNA and the human population keeps on growing. Something will have to give.

We cannot continue to do what we are doing without any consequences.

An extinction level event is the way the dark side maintains control over sectors. And the elite have their underground eutopias, well stocked with food and meds and entertainment and and could live there indefinitely, flying in zero point energy crafts wherever they wish in the cosmos.

The people who are harmed by disasters are the free and equal middle class.

They are planned by design or long awaited by ruling classes who hate equality, hate medicare, hate social justice, hate people owning land and making IQ gains.

So you're wising for the absolute opposite of what we need.

It is about people working through their hate issues and becoming Love and Goodness and working for the happiness of those around the including in their communities that change the frequency. The more good you do others, the more Good From On High comes into earth to help. The opposite is true too!

If all people doing good things, saving species, helping the needy, protecting nature etc...
If they all unite into a single collective, with one common goal, to protect, serve, help and love...

The powers that be will no longer have their advantage. Without their divide and conquer strategy dividing the people...
The total efforts of the collective intentions to create a better and saver world, will end up with more economic power, and energy, the "tptb" can possibly gather enough to compete.

The balance changes, and the control shifts from "tptb" to the people. The combined money, and energy invested in doing good, is already higher, and more extensive then "tptb" spend on their place in society.

The problem is that all good intentions, effort, money and energy, is coming from individuals or groups, fighting their battle to reach their chosen goals.
As long as our goals stay independent from each other, and the people divided across their individual ideals... The oldest rule in the book will still be "tptb"most formidable weapon, in their quest to stay in power now, and long into the future.

We only have to start to become a single collective, with a common goal that includes all individual ideals, and we can take over the power from "tptb" and put an end to their reign.

Please explain to me, what is it that makes it so hard for people to combine forces, efforts for our best interests, and that of our world ?
We would have already won...

Sinter Klaas
... The oldest rule in the book will still be "tptb"most formidable weapon,...

What Book?

These people may be evil by definition, but I think there is only two things that motivate them, neither of which have to do with religion or ideology. Those things are money and power. And you are absolutely right that it would take an unprecedented event to shift the balance of power. The grasp that these types of people have over world politics and finances is absolute. And of course it is the worst in "democratic" countries.

In democratic countries you see more people going for the money aspect, while it is the power aspect in other types of systems. But that could be debated I suppose. What could not be debated is that our leaders are all about money and power. It takes a person who is somewhat messed up in the head to seek out power over others anyway, imo. Most people just want a personal life, family, friends, enough money to live comfortably.

But the types of people who run the government are out for more money and power. They seek out this power over others, and I just think that this means their brains are not normal. They probably have some psychological problems that have gone undiagnosed.