reply to post by ausername
Keep believing what you want to believe.
Semantics to me, faith for the faithful followers.. Which are you?
Who's being manipulated?
reply to post by Bassago
The percentage of insured workers with a deductible of $1,000 or more for single coverage jumped to 34 percent in 2012 from 12 percent in 2007, according to a study by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust.
Nice spin..."jumped". Have a look at the study. That number has been rising for the entire span of the study. Blame the insurers, if you want to blame someone.
kff.org...edit on 2/15/2014 by Phage because: (no reason given)
reply to post by Phage
But Obama said rates would go down.
He apparently lied and people are fuming mad.
And that's because Sheople only ever see the tree in front of them. That cost increase was always a must. The forest People should be seeing is that quality is about to bottom out for the common man. The rich can employ the best doctors ... and they will. You won't be able to access their skills in short order. Your lines are going to be long and expect this for the next twenty years: "Oh you don't feel well? Here, take two aspirin for the pain in your broken finger and call me for an appointment in a week. It's the best we can do for now." Take it ... or leave it.
The truth is, the country has not produced enough doctors to meet demand. This is the rich man's insurance that he will be cared for.
There was no good reason for anyone's insurance going up.
“We get our money faster,” Rubin said in an interview. “As patients pay higher deductibles, we’re talking about potentially thousands of dollars. People get excited to buy a TV, but health care is a service they don’t like to pay for.”
Hospitals counter that discussing payment upfront helps connect patients earlier to financial assistance programs while ensuring providers get paid.
“It helps because you get it at the time of service rather than trying to get it afterwards,” Rich Sheehan, a spokesman for Boulder Community Hospital in Colorado, said by telephone. “Doctors’ offices have been doing it for years.”
reply to post by abe froman
Let's not argue semantics. These "NEW higher deductibles" started showing up years ago.
No they did not. No healthy 25 year old had a 14,000 dollar deductible paying these kind of premiums before the ACA.
Talking politics can make smart people look like fools. See ya in the next space thread.
Oh. You made it up.
I was just making a point, not being literal.
Yes. We went through that. The medical insurance doesn't kick in until your medical bills reach the deductible amount. That's what deductible is. It's not really that hard to understand.
Also read that last sentence again, note the location of the word BEFORE.
Yes. Again. What's your point? Insurance does not kick in until the deductible is reached. I've said that several times.
check it again " must SPEND before their insurer starts making payments."
High deductibles have been around for years. I said that the ACA led to higher deductibles and I explained why. I've said that several times.
Also don't tell me the higher deductibles have been around for some time and ignore the 42 percent increase which is a direct result of the ACA.
I know you didn't. I've been saying them myself. Over and over.
These are the FACTS which I didn't make up.