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1 Peter 1:20
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will--
For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.
In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,
They did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen.
The Greek says, foreknown.
God already chose Jesus Christ before he even created the world . . .
In Ephesians 1:4-5, it is saying that we would not be able to be good people if it wasn't for Jesus.
God already chose who will follow Jesus Christ and who will not:
Acts 4 quotes Psalms about the way the kings of the earth act towards a holy God, and the people in those positions when Jesus came under their authority was really under a higher authority themselves, who sort of predicted that, and even would have preferred for them to act out their inner desires in such a way as for us looking back to see how far away from God they really were and how they failed to perform the jobs assigned to them, to maintain justice in the land.
God uses his power and will to force people to act out his will:
God knows everything he will do before he does it, so all of God's actions are already set in stone
Predestination and free will are theories and don't really have anything to do with the Bible.
Taking it outside Biblical context and just what Christians seem to believe.
I think that is a modern construct and bears no relationship with the biblical writer's thinking.
God was around before the Universe was.
reply to post by charles1952
But it's not about knowing that "something" will happen. It's knowing everything things that happens.
God knows every single action a person will take before they are even born, therefore there is no need for God to "test" anyone. God knows everything he will do before he does it, so all of God's actions are already set in stone, including all of the actions of everyone that already existed, since he already knew what all of their actions would be.