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Liberals (Progresives) that are anti-gun have a mental illness

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posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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Liberal Fail!




posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:10 AM
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SWCCFAN

rupertg
Liberals are not all anti-gun. It's funny how conservatives only see the world in black and white, no grey area.


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Did you not read the post? Liberals that are anti-gun ....

Guess you missed the headline.



Ya come on rupertg only liberal anti gun people have mental problems and the conservative pro gun people are like saviours or something and breed prosperity lifting the nation out of poverty lol



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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It wasn't a headline so to speak. But your opinion. Which I do take to heart by the way.

The labelization of people is out of control. FaceBook just added what? 50 different ways to say what you are. Male, female, gay, hermaphrodite, etc, etc.

Things are getting all wonky and out of control I think.

People have called me a liberal, NeoCon, Racist, Nazi , etc, etc.

HEY! I'm me and more than likely none of those things that many think I am.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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I share a bit of liberalism a bit of conservatism a bit of socialism a bit a communism and a bit of capitalism .

All sides bring to the table some great points and leadership ideas and societal ideas



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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Everyone has an opinion and they are entitled to it.

However when a group of people take their opinion and use it infringe on a guaranteed right I have issues.

I grew up in New Orleans, LA I was shot by 2 black guys that were in a gang. They did it in retaliation of me using a US history book to remove the front teeth of their gang leader that facilitated my almost daily beating for no other reason than being white in an all black school. Despite the fact of being shot in my chest and leg in 2 spots I returned fire and shot both of them. Had I not been tipped off by a friend I would not have taken my mothers 9mm to school with me that day and likely would have been shot many more times.

My right to defend myself trumps all opinions to the contrary.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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Had to quit reading at the end of page one....I was getting too dizzy with the circular discussions.....
yer all #ed



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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freedomSlave

SWCCFAN

rupertg
Liberals are not all anti-gun. It's funny how conservatives only see the world in black and white, no grey area.


edit on 14-2-2014 by rupertg because: (no reason given)


Did you not read the post? Liberals that are anti-gun ....

Guess you missed the headline.



Ya come on rupertg only liberal anti gun people have mental problems and the conservative pro gun people are like saviours or something and breed prosperity lifting the nation out of poverty lol


... Because the liberals are so good at fixing the poverty issue? Liberals created welfare and made it so it was a hand out and not a hand up.

Where is the incentive to better yourself and be productive when you can get a check that meets your basic needs?



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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stirling
yer all #ed


Ain't it great!




posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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LoL best theory here and I can agree with it ... ya we are all messed up in some way shape or form



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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SWCCFAN
reply to post by freedomSlave
 


It's actually quite simple. Lets take Chicago, IL for example:

1. Controlled by anti-gun liberals
2. Strong anti-gun laws
3. High rates of violent and non-violent crime.



Can you find a pro-gun area of the country that can match the crime stats?


I am from Chicago, and can tell you most of the murders (far from all) are gang related, and many of them are gangs killing gang members from other gangs. Also allot of drug related killings. Thank God I live in LA now....LOL

Most murders in Chicago are Illegal guns that are used.

My question for you is, do you live in a major city, or the sticks? Anything with a population of under 150,000 is the sticks, and people who live in those areas have NO idea what city life is like.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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SWCCFAN
reply to post by freedomSlave
 


It's actually quite simple. Lets take Chicago, IL for example:

1. Controlled by anti-gun liberals
2. Strong anti-gun laws
3. High rates of violent and non-violent crime.



Can you find a pro-gun area of the country that can match the crime stats?

Except you are wrong here. Look at the data:
Chicago Crime Data

As you can see from the link Crime and Violent Crime has decreased in Chicago over the last 13 years. Homicides have also decreased over that same time frame. So it looks like the policies in place are working, still a ways to go but statistics are trending in the right direction.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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Any "anti-gun" laws enacted anywhere in this country are ineffective due to the fact that there is one gun for every citizen, even if they came up with the strictest anti gun laws, guns would still manage to find their way into the city because the city would be an island in a sea of guns.

It doesn't require an IQ of 170 to figure that out.

I think every law abiding citizen should be able to own a firearm for self defense, but in a country that is hooked on antidepressants, that worships materialism, where bullying is widespread in schools, where accessible and affordable basic healthcare is basically non existent and where guns are easily accessible everywhere then you're going to have problems.

Problems like mass shootings happening almost every month.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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So waking up this morning and coming to ATS I see this.


By golly there OP I think you nailed it squarely but all I can picture in my mind is poking a giant ant bed with a stick.

For what it's worth I agree mostly but think you should change the title from "liberals" to "progressives" as the progs are the crazy ones IMO. I consider myself a liberal, so liberal in fact I believe you have the rights as defined by the constitution to do pretty much anything as long as it doesn't hurt others. In cases of self defense however you should not stop shooting until all opposition is destroyed.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:37 AM
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I am by far a fervent supporter of the 2d amendment. And I do agree that politics (Names) have ruined many of our cities.

But I try…try, not to label everyone by a name. Other than their given one. I fail at that at times.

I know people in Wisconsin who are die-hard Dems, but have voted for Walker both times. Yet they call themselves Dems. I would think that they are actually independents, neither DNC nor GOP, neither liberal nor conservative.

But they insist that they are Dem.

But for the most part, I have noticed that the only people who are die-hards are the Progressives, Neo-Nazis, La Raza and the list goes on.

The labels are all driving everyone into a corner.

Truth be told, I blame this Administration. They seem to be driving this train of thought. Fight the good fight and don’t allow them to think for you. Be yourself and be free to think for yourself.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:38 AM
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Man, this liberal/ conservative crap is ridiculous. Most people are not ABSOLUTELY left or right about EVERYTHING. I don't consider myself left or right, because labeling oneself, especially in this manner, is consistent with a shallow mind. The GOP doesn't give a DAMN about its constituents, and neither do Democrats. And not to bash ''conservatives'', but most of the people that I'VE come across that identify themselves as such, it seems as if they long for the ''good old days'', when Jim Crow was the norm.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:38 AM
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I am a liberal
I work my balls off 12 to 16 hour days in the busy season , I have two kids and a wife that stays home with them we are poor I don't make a lot of money but I don't need to ask for assistance .
I do have some self respect as many liberals and conservatives alike .

ya there are some people who abuse social programs regardless of what they label themselves as . just like how people from both sides of the political form abuse taxes .

So to you mothers with a child who need help should not receive social programs or assistance , and what just toss them out on the street because welfare is stupid to you ..

ETA Poverty issues come from a extreme capitalistic societies such as our ,a ceo of a bank here make 10 million a year and a bank teller makes like 12 dollars an hour construction workers are luck to see 70 to 100 thousand a year. do you not see the problem here


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posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:39 AM
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"gun violence" peaked in 1993.

It has been going down nationwide since then; while ownership of firearms have increased.

More guns in the hands of more people equal less crime.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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I think the flaw in your logic is the assumption that increased crime is an unintended consequence of gun bans.

Increased crime rates mean increased demand for government action, i.e. bigger government.

Increased crime rates mean increased prison populations, i.e. slave labor.

It's not really insanity if your actions further your agenda, unless you count sociopathy as insanity.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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You may be correct Progressive may be a more appropriate term.




posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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kurthall
Anything with a population of under 150,000 is the sticks, and people who live in those areas have NO idea what city life is like.


Unless of course we moved from the city to the sticks. Then we do know, and have escaped before it is to late.

Just sayin"


And as far as I am concerned, the sticks is just one house on acreage...no town or city nearby.




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