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Originally posted by lostinspace
Many have thought that Moses originally wrote the the creation account and the history of the pre-Flood world but it these two portions in the early chapters of Genesis prove otherwise.
"This is the book of the generations of Adam."
The use of the word "book" implies writing and therefore someone was responsible to take down the history of the familes of Adam and Eve. Considering it was 1600 years from Adam to the great deluge, there would be a great deal of detail to be recorded, just look at our time. A few significant discoveries were mentioned in the account of the generations of Adam: farming livestock, musical arts, forging of metal tools, and poetry. Could it have been Seth who originally wrote this work which could have been considerably larger?
This is the second scripture of interest.
"This is the book of the generations of heaven and earth." (Bagster's Septuagint)
While this book of the "story of the heavens and earth" (Confraternity) was not necessarily written in Eden, it is probably older than 'Adam's history book'.
If Adam did not write the creation account then who did? Was Seth given the responcibility as well with this book? Once again this creation book would have had greater detail than the first few chapters of Genesis.
It would seem as though only a few snap shots of these first works were recorded and placed in the scripures we see today.
Maybe that is why some of the writers of the New Testament refer to details not mentioned in the Genesis account.
Could it be that fragments of these other details were passed down through the ages by the early ancestors and then the Book of Enoch was born?
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Originally posted by lostinspace
I agree that the Book of Enoch is definitely a work written sometime in the first or second century B.C. and contains a collection of extravagant and unhistorical Jewish myths. But you'll have to admit it seems that St. Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch with this scripture:
Did Jude receive this information by direct revelation or by a reliable transmission either oral or written? Could there have been a reliable work of antiquity that both Jude and the author of the Book of Enoch had access to?
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."
What was the testimony or detailed events that proved that Enoch pleased God and was so dramatic that God had to remove him from the world scene? Something eventful happend with Enoch in the pre-flood world but the story remains a mystery for a reason.
2 Peter 2:5
"And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly"
"These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God."
Peter speaks of Noah preaching to those in the pre-flood world but the Genesis account is silent with the details. Could there have been more records of the antediluvial world that were omitted later? Possibly cut out for a reason.
This scripture is possibly a reason of why all those records were cut out, but for good reason.
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
Originally posted by AkulA
Maybe these pillars are a sort of history lesson kind of like what was mentioned above in regards to the first musical instruments and so forth. This is where language came from, this is where writing came from etc.
More thoughts come to mind: Isn't Sumerian Cuneiform the earliest known writing? And I believe it was discovered in Uruk (sp?) I believe in Iraq.
Instead of hiroglyphs, couldn't we expect to see a form of cuniform on any relics that are predeluvian?
Originally posted by Deliverer
In an interesting side note, there was a discovery of ancient Akkadian texts in Nineveh, in a library assembled by Ashurbanipal. In one of the tablets Ashurbanipal claims " ...I can even read the intricate tablets in Shumerian; I understand the enigmatic words in the stone carvings from the days before the flood." Could this be the same stone pillar? Ashurbanipal died roughly 633 B.C
Originally posted by demorior
where does the legend of the Pillars of Seth origanate?