DHS Creating National License Plate Recognition System

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posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:01 PM
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In yet another questionable post to the Federal Business Opportunities website the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has stated their intention of establishing a “National License Plate Recognition (NLPR) database service.” The DHS or, more specifically, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division, seek to be able to track vehicular movements by license plate numbers captured on roadway cameras. The stated use is for law enforcement officers to enter a license plate number, then be able to determine where and when a vehicle has traveled. In other words, tracking a vehicle’s every movement and storing an actively updated record of those movements.

DHS Creating National License Plate Recognition System

The article covers a good bit of ground outlining the system DHS and ICE are trying to construct, and has the pdf of the solicitation at the bottom for anyone interested.

I really don't even know how to comment on this. After the revelations of the NSA's violations of privacy, this just seems like one gigantic compliment to an already too-far-gone system that is fueled by the desire to push America away from her founding principles. It is noteworthy that this solicitation doesn't mention anything about establishing the means for collection of this type of data, only the sharing and storage. Sounds like it's already up and running, just not being used to it's full creative potential.




posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:06 PM
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Inthe voice of mr. Burns, `exxxxxxxccccccccceeeelllent`.....and with the vehicle to vehicle communications, they will now know our every move, RIP privacy, you will be missed



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:19 PM
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This is a good find SnF! This tech will trickle down to rank and file LEO's, insurance companies and anyone that wants sue someone.

I got in a minor accident and the uninjured parties sued me for 300k (plus 15k more for "loss of conjunctive" relationship). It was attempted fraud through and through and they ended up not getting squat other than provable damages to the vehicle, but I digress. The point was that the other attorney subpenaed my cell phone records for the previous 30 days!
Everyone I called and every text I sent and received, there for all to see. Luckily I was not on the phone when the accident happened or I would have lost a lot of money.

My point with the previous story is that soon the Government will remember your whereabouts better than you do. Once that happens, any mistake in a testimony to defend yourself from prosecution will be used against your credibility.

They should just cram a chip up our collective asses, it would be cheaper.



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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The UK have been doing this for years..



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:36 PM
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Mamatus
This is a good find SnF! This tech will trickle down to rank and file LEO's, insurance companies and anyone that wants sue someone.

I got in a minor accident and the uninjured parties sued me for 300k (plus 15k more for "loss of conjunctive" relationship). It was attempted fraud through and through and they ended up not getting squat other than provable damages to the vehicle, but I digress. The point was that the other attorney subpenaed my cell phone records for the previous 30 days!
Everyone I called and every text I sent and received, there for all to see. Luckily I was not on the phone when the accident happened or I would have lost a lot of money.

My point with the previous story is that soon the Government will remember your whereabouts better than you do. Once that happens, any mistake in a testimony to defend yourself from prosecution will be used against your credibility.

They should just cram a chip up our collective asses, it would be cheaper.


Systems for the collection of data already exist on local levels, this solicitation is for a system that will connect all the local departments under an umbrella of oversight, maintained by the DHS/ICE. DHS will also have the ability to submit files of suspects into the system anonymously, leaving local LEO's to do their bidding.

So if DHS decides some a**hole in Florida needs to be arrested, they can submit a file into the system, and watch as local Floridan LEOs pick them up. Great in theory but, then again, so is communism.



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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They have been doing this in some parts of the country for a while, in fact popsci did an article a few years back about police cars being equipped with license plate recognition cameras, that scan all plates within viewable range, looking for everything from expired/stolen tags to wants and warrants.

Hey, voters in the 2000's wanted to escalate the "war on terror" and increase the police state in the process, so they brought this on themselves.

It was only a matter of time before it was all formalized under one roof.
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posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 03:48 PM
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that's the UK, what are we in the U.S. just suppose to think it's okay because the UK does it?

the U.S. is becoming the biggest police state in the world. it's time that people wake up and see that something need to be done.



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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In other news:

Detroit, Chicago, and St. Louis have been applying and developing an on going License Plate Swapping System.

I am interested to see who wins. My money is on the big 3, and I don't mean alphabet agencies.
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posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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The UK also banned guns. The UK can Go Away, OK?



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 05:55 PM
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Blackmarketeer

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Hey, voters in the 2000's wanted to escalate the "war on terror" and increase the police state in the process, so they brought this on themselves.

It was only a matter of time before it was all formalized under one roof.
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I respectfully object. It doesn't make sense to presume that the people actually heard the explanatory phrase, "If you want to be protected, you have to be under our perpetual observation."

This practice is just the most effective use of the tragedy of violent attacks to secure more control - further ensuring their sacred cow, "continuity of governance." (My CT... there is only ONE party.)

It is all too evident that those in positions of authority are more fearful of those they claim to serve, than they are some rage-filled tool of a foreign ideology.



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 06:44 PM
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"Never let a good tragedy go to waste." - some famous guy

Governance and law is what must be restored. The ruling class is looking to subvert this through the enactment of lawless laws (and have been quite successful since WWII).



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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hounddoghowlie
reply to post by misscurious
 



that's the UK, what are we in the U.S. just suppose to think it's okay because the UK does it?

the U.S. is becoming the biggest police state in the world. it's time that people wake up and see that something need to be done.



So if US citizens have ignored this for YEARS since it's been in the UK how can they be surprised or complain when it happens to them.

The phrase "I'm alright jack" comes to mind.

Protecting freedom should a global affair.....unless the world to you is what's only on your own doorstep.



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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hounddoghowlie
reply to post by misscurious
 



that's the UK, what are we in the U.S. just suppose to think it's okay because the UK does it?

the U.S. is becoming the biggest police state in the world. it's time that people wake up and see that something need to be done.



So if US citizens have ignored this for YEARS since it's been in the UK how can they be surprised or complain when it happens to them.

The phrase "I'm alright jack" comes to mind.

Protecting freedom should a global affair.....unless the world to you is what's only on your own doorstep.


short of invading the uk, england, britain or what ever you want to call it, there's not much any one in the U.S. can do.
if i'm not mistaken they can vote for their political leaders just as we can in the U.S. not that it makes a difference in either country i don't know all the ins and out over there but i'm pretty sure they get to vote.

i said for years ever since i first heard that the uk was the cctv capital of the world, that if they didn't do something about it they would become the sheep that the poster that i replied to seemed to emulate, at least that's the way i took his post, by saying
"they've been doing it in the uk for years" like it was no big thing and we should just roll over and let them do it with out speaking out.
or doing something.

also we have to protect the freedoms here before we can protect them somewhere else, and the government watching every phone call, every email, requiring everybody to have insurance, and this watching the movements of your vehicle by tracking plates is the next in a list that goes on and on, from laws passed years ago to ones passed in the last 13 years that do not go with the spirit that the Declaration Of Independence or the Constitution written.




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posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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I respectfully object. It doesn't make sense to presume that the people actually heard the explanatory phrase, "If you want to be protected, you have to be under our perpetual observation."


Which in my opinion, still makes them culpable for voting in "representatives" and administrations that used fear to create an ever-growing police state - ushering in 1,200 Intelligence agencies, the laws that have given us our current NSA spy programs, etc.

"Voter ID" laws, and "Real ID", are just an ongoing continuation of the police state.

Ignorant voters deserve to be scorned. I ask anyone - look up your own representative, and see how they voted in Congress on such programs. Did they support these programs? Did YOU vote for them? If the answer is yes to both, then congrats, you wanted to live in a police state.



posted on Feb, 13 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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Awesome!

When I moved to Minnesota from North Dakota, I opted for personalized plates:


Bet those will come in handy with this new technology, lol.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 03:38 AM
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How does this action equate to loss of civil liberties, or prove the transition to a police state?

Anyone care to write a concise and objective paragraph without all the alarmist nonsense?

Regards



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 04:25 AM
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"Creating"?

What is to create? Just buy one the existing and proven systems off the shelf.

I bet they could get a GRoupon for whatever they need.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 08:59 AM
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This technology has been around for years, the car wash industry initiated this many years ago to track customers and their purchases. We heard this tracking complaint with the antennas over the freeways to record tolls. I can't even imagine the manpower necessary to monitor US citizens every moment. How many cars are there? This will just end up like the millions of daily phone calls, emails and text messages, recorded. Locations in a database should they ever need to improve their chances of finding you in event they think you have become a candidate for a detention center. Do you really think this is an issue considering they can laser tag a vehicle's paint and follow it with a satellite from space? Kind of like installing your personal barcode.

How long will it be before any building you walk into is able to identify you with facial recognition tied to a central computer system? The casinos already do this. They know the second you walk in, then your frequent player card tells them how much and what you play, when you play, and for how long. Now they can financial forecast, establish labor requirements, and predict profit margins. These sinister things tell them how to market to you. Ever get a free comp in the mail? It is tailored to you personally, and in reality, smart business. If the opportunity arises, you will find the computer room is protected with a greater degree of security than the cash room, this is how important the data is, this is what the NSA knows, it's about the data. They keep it and get better every day at searching it, finding hidden gems of info, political, industrial, or personal it is at their disposal.

Has anyone ever asked why it became law that all communications from cell phones to televisions became digital? Yeah computers count ones and zero's much faster they anything else. How many emails, phone calls, text messages, faxes, could they possibly search in a few minutes with a supercomputer, or more than one computer reading the same database split into several sections? This has been going on since they installed optical splitters in fiber optic lines for the internet years ago. They can read categorize and store anything in real time.

Somewhere about 15 years ago when the computer geeks got wind of this, one day a year they would include all the words they thought the government would search for in emails and pass them around the net in hopes to bog down the system, and let them know they were on to them. This is something today I think is missed, in our email signatures we need to include these words and phrases and make searches by government computers retrieve a positive with every communication. This is just one of many things we can do as free citizens if we apply our brains instead of our emotions to deal with excessive monitoring.

These is a great topic that leads to many of the same, I would love to hear more from people in the know and things we can do to not only defeat the monitoring but make it not worthwhile. Just imagine if every email in the US started with the single sentence, "Today we defeat the federal government with terrorism, ousting the useless politicians, with whatever means necessary rather it be chemical, biological, or explosives, grab your guns and show these socialist dictators we mean business and begin today."

Maybe the answer is a license plate displayed with a cheap low resolution monitor only visible straight on or at the minimum a 15 degree angle, with the ability to turn it off when parking. Or simple stickers to confuse imaging but remain legal enough to make it unreadable to computers. In states where only a rear plate is necessary back into a stall instead of head on. Lets have some fun while making it difficult. Just a couple of ideas. We need to think with our head and not our heart. We have the brightest people in the world right here in the US and a boatload reside right here at ATS.



posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 09:23 AM
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paraphi
How does this action equate to loss of civil liberties, or prove the transition to a police state?

Anyone care to write a concise and objective paragraph without all the alarmist nonsense?

Regards


here you go, two quotes i didn't write these. if someone can't see what's coming down the pike i petty the fool.



The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.




An electronic police state is one in which the government aggressively uses electronic technologies to record, organize, search, and distribute forensic evidence against its citizens.


Police State



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posted on Feb, 14 2014 @ 01:37 PM
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Maxmars
It is all too evident that those in positions of authority are more fearful of those they claim to serve, than they are some rage-filled tool of a foreign ideology.


We knew then as we know now were all this was heading, a totalitarian control of very aspect of the American people and rightful citizens, do you remember when was the last time that we the people rule this nation? I don't anymore.





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