reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
I never stated that I was "higher" than anyone, gods.. Insulting me and demeaning me all on one post nice...
I was trying to explain that as you get up into the State Police/Federal levels they require higher degrees, and while IQ tests aren't administered
(I could go into many a study about IQ testing and how it's biased towards people from certain socio-economic backgrounds, and how over the years
they have altered the scales etc, but that would be an entirely different topic) they do do psychological background checks, as well as criminal
background checks, and even relationship (not man/woman marriage ones but friends and colleagues) checks to see what kind of a person you are, even
one of those things comes back questionable and you aren't hired, end of statement.
You have consistently missed everything that's been said in rebuttal, and throw barbs whenever you can for no other reason than to cast a shadow of
gloom over every LEO out there. (I refer to your barrell comment)
The problem as I see it is a basic lack of understanding of what the actual job of the Police in this day and age is, it is no longer to just
"protect and service" the population, it has evolved, especially after 9/11 into a whole range of duties and responsibilities that are rather
unfortunate, and some have taken it too far (I believe you missed that comment I made as well, about how I don't agree with the use of force with
some of the cases I've seen listed) but in the end, it's the thought that all LE is there for is to protect you and serve you that causes this
1) While the base duty of any local LEO is to protect their community from crime, it is ALSO a responsibility to try and make sure that ALL local laws
are enforced, not just ones that an officer finds legit. If you have a problem with a particular law, take it up with your State Legislature, as they
are the ones that pass local laws, the police do not make law, all they do is enforce it.
2) It is not up to you or I to decide which laws are just and which ones aren't. Just as it is not our place to say "I will not follow that law
because I don't believe in it.." There are many laws that are no longer enforced because they have been found to be obsolete but are still ont he
books, such as Massachusetts' famous law about having to have a person running 25 feet in front of an automobile with a lantern and bell announcing
that a car is coming.. There has only been one recent case where someone was given a citation for that, and the judge AND jury found it just as the
person was just being a mooses dongle.
3) The police aren't supposed to be your friends, they are the keepers of public order in a civilized society, you may not like that, you may not
agree with that, but it the way is has to be, lest we fall into anarchy.
4) There are many groups out there that have as one of their guiding principles to kill police, I did a writeup once for a department on these groups,
and sadly most of these groups are also Sovereign Citizen groups.. A bad combination when you are a local officer out on a routine traffic stop, as
such the police have become jumpy, and with good cause. I could drone on and on about the story of Al Beauregard in Springfield Mass, and the fact
that he was well loved in his community, and the traffic stop where all he was going to do was tell the driver that his taillight was out, and let
them go on their way and he ended up being shot in the face for his trouble, laving behind a new wife and baby girl of 4 months age, I could go on and
on about those incidents which none of you ever bring up, but apparently that's ok, because traffic stops are wrong and are only about revenue..
5) If an officer does step over the line, the Federal Government has a dedicated unit in the Justice Department and FBI to handle the investigation of
and prosecution of these officers. It is the Civil Rights Unit, and they, while underfunded and massively understaffed, DO investigate and DO
prosecute many many officers every year for violations of people's rights..
6) The Transportation Security Administration is NOT a Law Enforcement agency. As we keep reminding their goons, they are glorified baggage checkers
and subject to arrest and prosecution (and many have been) for violating people's rights.
7) Cops get shot at a LOT. This kinda gets washed over, because a lot of officers are trained to be better shots, our hots back in defense a lot of
times do not miss, I have only missed my target once, and almost died because of it, we must be well trained shots or we could die, what part of that
Now.. are there bad cops? Of course, and I would hope and pray that they get weeded out relatively quickly, and if not that our department will go
after them as vigorously as a person that using little kids as porno stars, it makes no difference in my eyes, if you violate someone else's rights,
you WILL pay for it. Have I arrested police officers? Yes. Will I ever again? probably not as I'm leaving my job soon to take a desk job up in
Alaska until I'm ready to retire, but there's always the chance in the next two months that the opportunity will arise, and I will do my job as
required. But.. and here's the but, until we educate BOTH the local officers and the public as to the duties of the officers and the RESPONSIBILITIES
of the citizenry, we will continue to have these problems.
It goes both ways, can't have it any other way than that..