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Snarl
reply to post by Bedlam
LOL. Ronald McDonald Hamburger College used to be a Very respectable cert.
ETA: Thinks -blushes- admits his first degree was the ACJ.
Bedlam
Wrabbit2000
I attend college with guys pursuing criminal justice majors...
A cj is down there with vet assistant and theory of basketball. An associates in CJ is like going to hamburger university.
SPOKANE, Wash.-- If you have a gun pointed at you, that may change your life forever. Now, when Spokane police officers point a gun at you it is considered a use of force.
continued...
The change took place May 23rd, 2013.
The Spokane Police Department changed the way it classifies an officer pointing a weapon at someone. The change came from Chief Straub in his 2013 Training Bulletin #4. He informed officers that directly pointing a firearm at an individual is considered a use of force.
- Source
HanzHenry
reply to post by dreamingawake
pointing a gun at someone is ASSAULT be definition.
And last time I checked, a CRIME
Wrabbit2000
Bedlam
Wrabbit2000
I attend college with guys pursuing criminal justice majors...
A cj is down there with vet assistant and theory of basketball. An associates in CJ is like going to hamburger university.
Nothing easy about it with an accredited school, anyway.
OLD HIPPY DUDE
Although law enforcement keeps records of all who die in the line of duty , no city, county, state or federal agency keeps ANY track or record of civilians killed by law enforcement.
So the only way to track numbers is to read every news paper in the US and watch every local news chanel and that doesn't count the ones not even reported. So good luck even getting any numbers.
Bedlam
Ok - what did YOU think about it as a degree? Some of the smaller local colleges back home offered it as a two year, mostly junior colleges or ripoff schools like DeVry. It was really popular with junior college jocks.
dreamingawake
Part of the the problem with PD's corruption, read this some time back, was the independent(or state) hiring of law enforcement.
Thinking in terms to curb the corruption:
• Due to policing concerns in Spokane, Wash., an ombudsman was appointed to monitor complaints and violations. Right now, there's talks of the Ombudsman being too dependent on the PD, which surely would cause some conflicts with the monitoring, etc.
• Changes in what is "use of force":
SPOKANE, Wash.-- If you have a gun pointed at you, that may change your life forever. Now, when Spokane police officers point a gun at you it is considered a use of force.
continued...
The change took place May 23rd, 2013.
The Spokane Police Department changed the way it classifies an officer pointing a weapon at someone. The change came from Chief Straub in his 2013 Training Bulletin #4. He informed officers that directly pointing a firearm at an individual is considered a use of force.
- Source
• Many places are having police where cameras on their person. It's possible that it's inhibiting some "bad behavior", or at least in the few stories about it.edit on 12-2-2014 by dreamingawake because: of
Wrabbit2000
we are hiring recruits with an IQ of 88 or less (not kidding...well documented)
OP, I'm just curious on this..but can you link to where that's a confirmed requirement by a real world department or agency? I'd be very interested to see that. I attend college with guys pursuing criminal justice majors for the local Police Department and state crime lab. Neither will hire anyone without long term experience, military service (and that's no blanket thing as an automatic, depends on what and how long) or a minimum of an Associates degree from a 2 year with preference given to a Bachelors.
No one with an 88 IQ is making it through everything required to get an AA these days, IMO.
edit on 12-2-2014 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
crazyewok
All i can say is how the hell do you produce such incompetent, gun happy , brutal, yahoo police?
What sorts of idoits do you recruit? Do you even have police training?
My first hand experiance of NY was shall i say shocking. And from what i see on ATS i likely got some of the more proffesional ones!
At the very least you guys should disarm your police like the UK and have a small core of highly trained rapid responce armed police recruited from the best. That way your cops will have to use there brain first.edit on 12-2-2014 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)edit on 12-2-2014 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)
HanzHenry
Wrabbit2000
Bedlam
Wrabbit2000
I attend college with guys pursuing criminal justice majors...
A cj is down there with vet assistant and theory of basketball. An associates in CJ is like going to hamburger university.
Nothing easy about it with an accredited school, anyway.
Whoa dude, the classes are mostly in the 101 category.. English 101, Psych 101, Biology 101, etc.. pretty much any associates can EASILY be obtained by someone with 3 brain cells.
And that is from someone who went to Irvine, U of I Urbana, and USD
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by UxoriousMagnus
Thank you for the reply. That's one of those it really takes reading to fully grasp the stupidity of. No pun intended.. lol...
I can only say that isn't their attitude where I live for either the city department or the county sheriffs office, and hiring standards seem to vary pretty greatly between areas, obviously. I suppose where one chooses to live can have a great deal to do with quality of life and in some ways folks wouldn't first consider.