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I don't know what else to suggest.
End of subject. I will not respond to any more silliness over it.
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Look at your Quran, it will tell you who did the translation – drop that information into google you can then check and make sure the online copy and your book are in agreement
You can then post the link to Lucid Lunacy
why someone with such an anti-religious attitude would be demanding "the perfect" translation of a religious book
and why one sentence from many pages back has been blown out of all proportion on a thread
about the decline of CHRISTIAN beliefs and AMERICAN social values.
It doesn't take the cognizance or comprehension of a fifth grader to figure out that the name of the game here is to distract from the actual topic.
reply to post by frazzle
If I am going to criticize something a book says I would want to make sure it really says it..
Frazzle you understand that you brought it up again right? You have made multiple snide comments about me and reading the Quran. On the previous page you made a snide comment about it and I chose to address it. I posted multiple translations for you so you wouldn't waste breath on how it was bad translation…. you did anyways.
We can get back to this. We have been saying a decline in Christian beliefs isn't a decline in American values as this isn't a Christian nation. It's merely a decline in what Christians perceive to be American values because they are elevating their religious beliefs above the principles America was founded on. Now that we are applying those to gay marriage we are finding denying them it is unconstitutional. Granting them it, unbiblical Too bad, so sad.
Back when I first posted the verses you attacked me for the ones I used. I asked quite nicely for you to give me a recommendation and told you I would use it instead. You chose not to. Instead you continued to make jabs about it. You dragged it out.
As for the other issues you brought up. Are they the result of brainwashing by the media? Just seeing how well we can tie them into the thread topic.
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That is all well and good, but it looks like you are desperately trying to switch the subject most likely because you know you are wrong. If you want to move on why not post your "better translation" deal with it then move on. Seems like you are trying to distract now going "eww...look at these things over here".
You might want to stop banging your spoon on the tray. You can't have my cookie.
Same goes for your partner.
And there you have it, you just admitted that you aren't interested in a different version to learn something new or gain new insight
I went back and looked. YOU brought it back up.
One minute you are literally surrounded by those yucky Christians and the next you say Christianity is in decline. Which is it?
But in the end, based on what I've seen and heard so far, I expect the gay community will push their agenda
Suggesting how you might get a copy was a "jab?
an equal and opposite response from Christians and others, who are, as of yet, the silent majority
Why wasn't the media challenging the...
And all the ethics are borrowed from religion and and their morals, which is why the atheism and moral relativism and secular humanism is such a phoney fake preposterous world view.
The Ancient Greek view of philanthropy — that the "love of what it is to be human" is the essential nature and purpose of humanity, culture and civilization — was intrinsically philosophical, containing both metaphysics and ethics. The Greeks adopted the "love of humanity" as an educational ideal, whose goal was excellence (arete)—the fullest self-development, of body, mind, and spirit, which is the essence of liberal education. The Platonic Academy's philosophical dictionary defined Philanthropia as: "A state of well-educated habits stemming from love of humanity. A state of being productive of benefit to humans." Just as Prometheus’ human-empowering gifts rebelled against the tyranny of Zeus, philanthropia was also associated with freedom and democracy. Both Socrates and the laws of Athens were described as "philanthropic and democratic".
The total economic collapse attending the Fall of Rome and leading to the Dark Ages dissolved Classical civilization, replacing it with Christian theology and soteriology, administered through the Roman Catholic Church's ecclesiastical and monastic infrastructures. Gradually there emerged a non-religious agricultural infrastructure based on peasant farming organized into manors, which were in turn organized for law and order by feudalism. For a thousand years Classical humanism hibernated in forgotten manuscripts of monastic libraries.
Although the term "humanism" was not applied to a philosophy or belief system until the European Renaissance, those early humanists were inspired the ideas and attitudes which they discovered in forgotten manuscripts from ancient Greece. This Greek humanism can be identified by a number of shared characteristics: it was materialistic in that it sought explanations for events in the natural world, it valued free inquiry in that it wanted to open up new possibilities for speculation, and it valued humanity in that it placed human beings at the center of moral and social concerns.