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Exactly who decided that the word ''progressiveness'' has to mean accepting ideas and practices that were once seen as abhorrent?
How did it happen?
he masses tendency to blindly accept whatever gets defined as ''progressive'' points to extremely efficient social programming methods in place.
the masses tendency to blindly accept whatever gets defined as [their religion] points to extremely efficient social programming methods in place.
Increasingly? America has a majority Christian population. What happened to the ''voice of the majority''? Or did Christians forget how to... Christianity? How exactly did the minority get the power to dictate terms to the majority?
Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
How did it happen?
People increasingly feeling free to think outside the chains of religious dogma. That's how it happened. Thinking people doing what their brains crave.
So why do people start parroting injected ''values'' onto others.
Increasingly? America has a majority Christian population. What happened to the ''voice of the majority''? Or did Christians forget how to... Christianity? How exactly did the minority get the power to dictate terms to the majority?
Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Increasingly? America has a majority Christian population. What happened to the ''voice of the majority''? Or did Christians forget how to... Christianity? How exactly did the minority get the power to dictate terms to the majority?
That's news to me. It still is a Christian majority. The minority clearly doesn't have this overwhelming power. Explain how they do. What we are seeing is more and more people just open to discussing the merits of religion. Questioning is deadly to the faith. I wonder why that is
Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by DeadSeraph
However, can we not at least come to an agreement that questioning is a good thing worthy of respect?
Yes. People blindly claim they accept now what their grandparents rejected because of some sort of ''social evolution'' that took place. What they don't get is that they are the only ones who think so. They will not stop to ask how exactly...or rather, who determined that ''progress'' or ''social evolution'' was to necessarily lead to the acceptance of what was shunned before? The tolerance of degenerate behaviour isn't the result of evolution or progression or whatever rosy explanation they come up with. Rather it is the consequence of the removal of something that kept degenerate behaviour at bay. That something is rooted in the values that came from the once dominant religion.
@DeadSeraph..... While I don't agree with the idea, the prevailing theory (which I'm sure will be parroted here in other words) is that what you have described is social progress, and a bi-product of social evolution. What this generic explanation will fail to address however, is an important issue which you have pointed out (and will likely be glossed over): That this is in fact a result of social programming.
Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by DeadSeraph
Then I would say respect that religious minds are changed via that questioning.
If the religious are upset by the decline of religious followers and subsequently religious values in society, join in ranks and muster a strong compelling argument to bring them back.
Honestly. I am strongly anti-religious yet I fully completely utterly support the notion of the religious presenting their best case. I don't want you wiped out. I want everyone to have a say. May the best argument win.edit on 12-2-2014 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)
I'm not American, but from what I've gathered, the US was once a rather religious and conservative society...in which the Christian religion played a major role in society without even holding absolute political power. ''Christian values'' seemed to have prevailed not just in Christian homes, but even in media and society overall.
If the collapse of religion and age-old traditional values did not occur by accident, then it would have had to have been achieved by mysterious forces working behind the scenes to program the masses into accepting strange new ideas. If so, then who or what is it? And what do they stand to gain from rewriting social norms and diminishing religion? Could it all be a decoy to take attention away from somthing far more sinister? There is definitely a conspiracy in all of this. Discuss in your own words and keep it civil.
Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by DeadSeraph
How do you reconcile that with the fact the majority of atheists were once religious?